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Old 07-31-2009, 10:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Beware of Nigeran scammers on Paypal

I'm victim of paypal fraud from Nigerian scammers and my item has been left in USPS facility, I'm going to USPS office in morning to file a mail recall, I wasn't unaware until I receive a alert from my friend about paypal fraud and now, I learn about what happened.

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Old 07-31-2009, 10:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm very nervous right now and made a huge mistake.

Never ship to outside of North America, if you receive paypal information and check the location, if it's Nigeria then never ship it.

I have put Nigerian scammers email in spam folder.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Foxrac, I am sorry that you had to go through this.

Hope you get it all sorted out.
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Foxrac, I am sorry that you had to go through this.

Hope you get it all sorted out.
Yup, I lost $40 for shipping cost.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's what I got first email after put item on auction.
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I just went through the listing of your item now and i am really interested in the item.I would have love to bid on this item but due to the urgent need of the item.I want to buy this for my Daughter who traveled abroad for her final project in Geology.I will be paying you via fast and secured PayPal payment.I will offer you $200 and add $80 for the shipping via USPS-EMS GLOBAL MAIL.I will like you to end the auction at ebay and get back to me with the total cost of the item including shipping so i can make an instant payment.You can send me a money request on my e-mail at rickyster00@yahoo.com.Also,You can talk to me on my yahoo messenger at rickyster00@yahoo.com...Thanks and God Bless You...
It's from my email.

I noticed about bad grammar too.
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Yup, I lost $40 for shipping cost.
Aw I hope they will give you the money back.
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That's what I got first email after put item on auction.


It's from my email.

I noticed about bad grammar too.
The one you just posted is a typical Nigerian scammer seen here on AllDeaf and elsewhere on the Internet.

English is a majority-used language in Nigeria (Africa), but they don't speak/type properly.
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That's what I got first email after put item on auction.


It's from my email.

I noticed about bad grammar too.
Is this from Ebay?


Sorry you had been a victim, I hope USPS stops the mail and gets your money back.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Aw I hope they will give you the money back.The one you just posted is a typical Nigerian scammer seen here on AllDeaf and elsewhere on the Internet.

English is a majority-used language in Nigeria (Africa), but they don't speak/type properly.
Is it just me or does the grammer look fine to me?
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Sorry Foxtrac, It sucks big when that happened. You're not alone among those who were scammed. We know how you feel..

I know sometime it may seem real but later it turn out to be a scammer. Usually, I checks to be sure that it's in USA. If I buy anything coming from another Countries, I digs in deeper to find out about Seller's ratings and products. If I sell things to buyer, I make sure that they have their own Pay Pal account and send it once money been deposited by their Pay Pal and I wait about couple days before I mails it out regardless where they live in or out of USA... I know it can be risky. I would never pay if they ask for Credit Card information. Pay Pal would never reveal anyone's CC number and code ect.. It just transfer funds automatically once you click. If Seller ask you for CC information ect. I would never attempt to provide it. I would just report it to PayPal and Ebay about fraud and move on to next Seller.

I encountered many "fake" buyer trying to trick me into accepting their offer to bypass Ebay bidding and want me sell them directly (some offer me $1,500 and other offer me $5,000 for my item ). I got sooo because they bid and won it then twisted things around by telling me that they don't have Pay Pal account or saying "My daughter blah blah" which are common Nigerian scam. I usually wait few days before I replied acting like I was very busy Seller.. (Many buyers had only one or two bids on their ratings) The buyer then the next day disappeared from Ebay. Ebay notified me that it was a scammer. I knew it!! I had to change the setting on Ebay Seller requirement by forcing Buyers that have more than 10 winning bids or more. It didn't work that well. One woman acting like scammer and she bidded and won my item then sent me Email of Nigerian Scam. I was soooooo and sent her mean and threatening Email. Few days later She changed the topic and said she is still wanting to buy. I told her Pay Pal REQUIRED!!! I was about to repost bid but she insist she want to pay for items. I asked her why did she sent me Nigerian Scam email the first place!!! She apologized and she paid me $$$'s through PayPal and I sent her item just FEW DAYS after money been deposited. I was making sure that she don't retract it. After she received my item, she thanked me kindly and gave me good rating

That gave me hairy reception about scammers!! I felt like I want to go out and beat them up and make them pay for my item that they won on Ebay PLUS 100% interest for my aggravated feeling and gas !!

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Old 08-01-2009, 08:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If I ship via UPS then UPS will take action so immediately but USPS is ugh and they need take serious with Nigerian scammers.
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Is this from Ebay?


Sorry you had been a victim, I hope USPS stops the mail and gets your money back.
Yup, only partly and they want me to end the auction before payment can start processed.

I'm really want punch at their face and all internet from Nigeria to US need be restricted or blocked.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:20 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Yup, only partly and they want me to end the auction before payment can start processed.

I'm really want punch at their face and all internet from Nigeria to US need be restricted or blocked.
I can't blame ya, Read the comment on bottom of my post #9

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I can't blame ya, Read the comment on bottom of my post #9

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Yup, I already read and wow, it's really rough comment, sorry about happens but you are smart to blows them away.
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I went USPS office this morning and let manager know and he will call main USPS office then will call to me later.

I had sent fax to main office as well.

If my item is gone then I will NEVER use USPS anymore until they have tighten the policy about fraud issue.

I will be very lucky if I do ship via UPS.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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wow purplecatty- that really suxs! at least one ended well for you.
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wow, Foxrac and Catty,

Foxrac, I am really sorry what and how you had through. You can report this to PayPal via Ebay with reason in writing, then they will refund your money within few days later. I hope everything goes smooth for you.

Catty, yes I did the same thing is check their ratings and products first before bid or buy.
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Oh No!! My friend was victim with $$5000. By paypal but Lucky Paypal took care of it and no charge him!
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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When I tried to sell my laptop via cragilist and received 3 strange email and I had review it and found it's scam, I'm glad that my laptop is sold to my relative instead of goes to scammers. Now, I'm not sell on cragilist so permanently until they need change the security to block all people from oversea to check cragilist.

Ebay is safer if you don't end the auction and don't post any email address on list, I'm getting sick of scammers and US Government should have something to make more tighten security and block anyone who is oversea that infested with scammers like in Nigeria or Ghana, otherwise, businesses need have certificate with US government to use US website.

For ebay, when I'm going sell again, I would make more strict, such as no international shipping accepted and all shipping must be via UPS only, I will not shipping until payment has been cleared.

Now, I have feel that my phone isn't valuable but I don't want them to see my damn address.
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Ugh, my item is already gone and it's at ISC in Miami.

Damn to USPS for doing shitty job.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:32 PM   #20 (permalink)
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At UPS, sending packages to high risk internationally must have security screened first and will have questions with sender before approving to proceed. They will ask sender if they accept all costs and what contents is accept to send before approve to proceed to send out.

Examples of High risk country such as:

Nigeria
Ghana

there is several listed at UPS.

Sorry about Postal Service, they should have high risk country screening before proceeding.
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At UPS, sending packages to high risk internationally must have security screened first and will have questions with sender before approving to proceed. They will ask sender if they accept all costs and what contents is accept to send before approve to proceed to send out.

Examples of High risk country such as:

Nigeria
Ghana

there is several listed at UPS.

Sorry about Postal Service, they should have high risk country screening before proceeding.
Yup, I use UPS for many years and very satisfied with their service.

I think many Nigerian scammers prefer USPS because of weak security and USPS is very behind when come with improve security measure.
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Yup, I use UPS for many years and very satisfied with their service.

I think many Nigerian scammers prefer USPS because of weak security and USPS is very behind when come with improve security measure.
weak security? this has NOTHING to do with security. USPS is not responsible for your mistake. Give them package and address... and they ship it. That's all they do.

Blame yourself for getting punk'd by Nigerian scammer.
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weak security? this has NOTHING to do with security. USPS is not responsible for your mistake. Give them package and address... and they ship it. That's all they do.

Blame yourself for getting punk'd by Nigerian scammer.
I'm expressing my opinion about situation with USPS, they do have mail recall form but not effective if already outside of US.

I don't care if you said blame myself and I have agree with Calvin.
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I'm expressing my opinion about situation with USPS, they do have mail recall form but not effective if already outside of US.

I don't care if you said blame myself and I have agree with Calvin.
1. USPS stands for United States Postal Service. They are not an international shipping company like FedEx or UPS.
2. USPS uses outside service for international mail
3. as for security - see below

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Postal Inspectors Initiate Global Fraud Crackdown, Seize Billions in Fake Checks
National alliance, consumer education campaign launched to combat scams

Washington, D.C. — Investigators led by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service have arrested 77 people as part of a global fraud crackdown which has since January intercepted more than $2.1 billion in counterfeit checks bound for the United States.

The eight-month investigation involved schemes in Nigeria, the Netherlands, England and Canada, and has stopped more than half a million fake checks from being mailed to American victims.

At a press conference at the National Press Club, Postmaster General John Potter announced a consumer-awareness campaign to educate the American public. International scammers have found U.S. consumers easy prey and are increasingly targeting them, Potter said.

“All fake check scams have the same common pattern: Scammers contact victims online or through the mail and send them checks or money orders. They then ask that some portion of the money be wired back to them,” said Potter. “The best thing our citizens can do to protect themselves is learn how to avoid these scams. The old adage still holds true: If someone offers you a deal that sounds too good to be true, it probably is.”

Assistant U.S. Attorney General Alice S. Fisher applauded the Postal Inspection Service for its leadership in the global fight against fake checks. “The growing problem of fake check fraud is international in scope, and our response to this criminal activity must be global,” said Fisher. “Thanks to the efforts of the Postal Inspection Service and our international partners, we are able to arrest these scam artists who operate overseas and bring them to justice.”

The Postal Inspection Service, in collaboration with financial institutions, consumer advocacy groups and businesses, has formed the Alliance for Consumer Fraud Awareness, which has launched a consumer-education campaign. A series of television, print and online advertisements will feature a tagline telling consumers: Scams like these don’t work as well in person. That’s why they’re done online.
Consumers Can Protect Themselves

“Most Americans don’t realize they are financially liable when they fall for these scams,” said Susan Grant, vice president of the National Consumers League, an Alliance partner. “There is no legitimate reason anyone would mail you a check or money order and then ask you to wire money in return,” Grant said. “People need to know that checks can take months to clear, even if the money initially looks like it’s in your account. The scammers know that, and most consumers don’t.”

The six most popular scams are:

* Foreign Business Offers: Scammers pretend to be businesspeople or government officials and promise millions of dollars. But real companies and government agencies don’t offer legitimate business propositions to people they don’t know.
* Love Losses:The scammer poses as a romantic interest online, and promises to come to the U.S. to be with the victim. Soon after, the online friend asks the victim to cash a check or money order to cover “travel expenses.”
* Overpayments:Scammers buy merchandise online, and then claim they mailed the wrong amount by mistake. The seller is asked to deposit the “wrong” check anyway, and then return the “excess” amount to the scammer. But the check doesn’t clear, and the victim has sent the scammer his own money.
* Rental Schemes:Scammers claim to be moving to the area, and put down a rental deposit. Then they tell their landlord they have unexpected expenses, so they ask for some of their deposit back as a favor. They never move in, and the deposit check never clears.
* Sudden Riches: The scammer claims the victim has won a foreign lottery or sweepstakes. The notice comes by mail, phone, fax or email. Consumers should know that winners of real cash prizes are notified by certified mail.
* Work-at-Home: The scams promise easy money by “processing” checks. The victim deposits the checks and sends the money to the scammer, minus a small fee. Legitimate companies don’t do business like this.

Consumers can learn more and report fraudulent activity at the Alliance website, FakeChecks.org.

If consumers believe they have been defrauded by a scam, the Postal Inspection Service wants to hear from them. These crimes can be reported by calling 1-800-372-8347.

An electronic press kit, containing this press release, fact sheets, FAQs, high-resolution images of the six print ads, research findings and a list of local events will be posted at FakeChecks.org. The press release, fact sheets, FAQs and print ads will be translated in Spanish.

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Please Note: For broadcast quality video and audio, photo stills and other media resources,visit the USPS Newsroom at USPS - Redirect to Newsroom.
An independent federal agency, the U.S. Postal Service is the only delivery service that visits every address in the nation, 146 million homes and businesses, six days a week. It has 37,000 retail locations and relies on the sale of postage, products, and services to pay for operating expenses, not tax dollars. The Postal Service has annual revenues of $75 billion and delivers nearly half the world’s mail.

About the U.S. Postal Inspection Service
The U.S. Postal Inspection Service is one of the oldest federal law enforcement agencies in the country. For more than 200 years, Postal Inspectors have protected the U.S. Postal Service, its employees and its customers from criminal attack and protected the nation’s mail system from criminal misuse. U.S. Postal Inspection Service.

About the Alliance for Consumer Fraud Awareness
The Alliance for Consumer Fraud Awareness is a private-public initiative that was founded in October, 2006, with the mission to empower consumers to recognize and avoid harmful fraudulent scams. Members represent 20 financial institutions, associations, consumer advocacy groups and businesses. To learn more, visit FakeChecks.org.
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To prevent incidents and mitigate risks, area security personnel and postal inspectors conducted more than 9,000 security assessments and reviews at postal facilities nationwide. The reviews are designed to protect postal employees, customers, assets and reputation. The assessments range from reviewing compliance with procedures for building and vehicle security, handling accountable mail, and local enforcement of employee identification card requirements, to comprehensive security reviews which include detailed risk assessments. Additionally, inspectors conducted investigations into mail service and security. These Observations of Mail Condition (OMC) reviews were conducted at more than 594 mail processing and 1,158 customer service facilities (delivery units), primarily during the fall and Political Mail campaign seasons.
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As part of a global counterfeit initiative, Postal Service investigators arrested 77 people, and intercepted counterfeit checks with a face value of $2.1 billion. The 8-month investigation stopped more than half a million counterfeit checks from being mailed to American victims from Nigeria, the Netherlands, England, and Canada. In addition, the amount of counterfeit Postal Service Money Orders was $45 million less in 2007 than the previous year, as reported by the Federal Reserve Bank. These efforts have played a significant role in keeping hard copy financial instruments in the mail, maintaining the Postal Service’s value as the trusted service for these transactions. The Postal Service, in collaboration with the Alliance for Consumer Fraud Awareness, launched a consumer education campaign with the aim of helping consumers recognize and protect themselves from the various frauds now targeting them.
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One thing I don't understand is why Fox shipped an item without receiving the money from buyer? What kind of seller is that?
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One thing I don't understand is why Fox shipped an item without receiving the money from buyer? What kind of seller is that?
It was paypal, I thought that I will receive a money after sent a tracking number to paypal, I wasn't aware about fake paypal and found out so I know it's fake paypal because email address isn't match to real paypal.
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eBay send out warning notifications very often about these scammers. never send anything without payment. just because it is paypal doesn't mean they are going to use it.


One scammer sent me a email that looked 100% authentic. but it was not a real eBay notification. it was a photoshopped picture of a eBay mail and no real typed writing in the email at all...
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It was paypal, I thought that I will receive a money after sent a tracking number to paypal, I wasn't aware about fake paypal and found out so I know it's fake paypal because email address isn't match to real paypal.
Really? I might not aware this and I always go to any atm and check paypal's balance or go to real paypal's site and check my account. Thanks pal. I hope u get your item back.
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eBay send out warning notifications very often about these scammers. never send anything without payment. just because it is paypal doesn't mean they are going to use it.


One scammer sent me a email that looked 100% authentic. but it was not a real eBay notification. it was a photoshopped picture of a eBay mail and no real typed writing in the email at all...
That's right.

Anytime you get an email from eBay, PayPal, or any other site... don't take their word for it. Go to that site to confirm it yourself... directly, not from a link in the email.

For instance, if i get an email from eBay saying that they need to confirm my contact information online... I go to eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices directly. (I type in the URL manually.) I don't click on any of the links in the email. If the email was indeed true, then I will also get a notification when I log on eBay. The same goes for PayPal and other sites.
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yeah there are real sneaky little tricks and ya always got to double check.

some were goofy tricks, here is an example: once got a email from paypa1. com to send them money for an auction. if a person isn't really paying attention they do not notice between paypal.com and paypa1.com... that is a real goofy old one
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