Reverse Funnel system a scam... BEWARE

rockdrummer · 12-28-2007, 09:29 AM

I can't believe how many times I see MLM and Pyramid schemes (scams) out there and people get sucked into all the hype and end up getting ripped off of their hard earned money. If you are considering getting involved in this please read the following link first. Pyramid and reverse pyramid only make money for those at the top.

The Reverse Funnel System: Hype? Scam? Big internet money maker?

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Reverse Pyramid System is no good, but don't take my word for it, check out better business bureau: Global Resorts Network, they are being investigated for unsubstantiated claims. Don't hold your breath for GRN's response, they will no doubt be outa town soon. Don't let yourself fall for this obvious scam.

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$200-$300 per month for a web site? Holy moly. $50 application fee, then charge $200-$300 per month for a website after being a platiumm member $2997 and plus over $100 process fee? anyone can explain?

Always .. Always... Always... remember.... If it sounds to good to be true THEN IT IS.

rockdrummer · 12-28-2007, 10:07 AM

Global resorts network is at the heart of this pyramid scheme. They currently have an unsatisfactory rating with the Better Business Bureau. Below is some good information from the BBB about work-at-home schemes.

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WORK-AT-HOME

Every day, ads for work-at-home jobs appear in newspapers across the country as well as in national magazines and on the Internet. Some of the offers include stuffing envelopes, assembling products, reading books, reviewing movies, medical billing, or selling advertising on the Internet.

The Better Business Bureau suggests using extreme caution when responding to any such offer. While ads claim high earnings and short hours with little or no experience, Bureau files nationwide indicate no evidence of anyone making the promised money. Rarely, if ever, are these ads an offer of legitimate employment. Generally, these "jobs" require up-front fees for information or supplies, and only the person who ran the ad makes any money.

You should be aware that the United States Postal Inspectors regularly investigate these fraudulent schemes, and that you risk investigation and possible prosecution by postal or other law enforcement agencies if you become involved in one of these schemes. To contact the Postal Inspectors mail fraud unit, call 1-800-372-8347.

Work-At-Home-Schemes Now Peddled On-Line
"Special BBB Investigation Confirms: Work-at-Home Dealts are ""Too Good to be True"""
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Better Business Bureau Warns Consumers of Three Work-at-Home Companies Based in State of Oregon

rockdrummer · 12-28-2007, 10:08 AM

they call it reverse funnel... Interestingly enough if you turn a funnel upside down it looks like a pyramid which is all this is... another pyramid scheme with a new name. (reverse funnel)

rockdrummer · 12-28-2007, 10:31 AM

More from Ripoff Report: By Consumers, For Consumers

Rip-off Report: Dynamic Marketing Alliance LLC, Inner Circle, Reverse Funnel Dynamic Marketing Alliance LLC, Inner Circle, Reverse Funnel System, RFS Promises BIG money in your pocket within hours, with NO background of any kind Las Vegas Nevada
Rip-off Report: Reverse Funnel System I complete the application, received confirmation and approval; I chose the option in the application form that I was willing to invest less than $2,000.00. In the second phase of the application the only option
Rip-off Report: Reverse Funnel System They tried to trick me into buying into their scheme but I have no proof Internet

rockdrummer · 12-28-2007, 10:55 AM

Also read the disclaimer... The devil is in the details. There are tons of red flags if you read. I have highlighted a few.

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rockdrummer · 12-28-2007, 02:20 PM

Source: BBB Alerts & News

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Work-At-Home-Schemes Now Peddled On-Line

Want to make fast cash while working from your home? Click a few keys and follow the instructions on your computer screen! Work-at-home-schemes are nothing new but now con artists who touted scams through newspaper, U.S. mail and telemarketing are using computers to reach potential victims. They can sit at their keyboard and reach hundreds of thousands of people, pretty much for free, in a short period of time. Getting a phony ad or message out is now cheap and easy.
On-line users need to be careful when browsing the Internet and responding to unsolicited offers. If an ad seems too good to be true, it probably is. Talented individuals can use a Web Page to create a company that looks very legitimate, but just because an ad looks legitimate on the computer screen, is no reason to assume it is.

Many questionable work-at-home offers are perpetrated through classified advertising. No matter where you find classified ads online, you are likely to find some false and misleading claims. For example, some classified ads promote quick and easy get rich ventures, traditional pyramid schemes, or the basic chain letter scenario. Traditional work-at-home schemes, such as making handicrafts or stuffing envelopes, have been replaced by offers to use your home PC to make money fast in your spare time. To evaluate tempting, on-line solicitations which offer a chance to earn money by working at home, follow the same signals that tip you off to potential frauds in print and other media. The BBB offers some warning signs to questionable online advertising:

Overstated claims of product effectiveness. Use of hype titles and frequent use of the word “hot” to describe an investment opportunity can indicate a scam.

Exaggerated claims of potential earnings, profits, or part-time earnings.

Claims of “inside” information.

Require money for instructions or merchandise before telling you how the plan operates.

Tell you that no experience is necessary.
Check on the reliability of the business offering you the work at home opportunity before sending any money. Anyone victimized by work-at-home offers over the Internet can file a complaint online or off-line with their Better Business Bureau. Consumers who remain silent allow others to be swindled by these fraudulent operators. But even more importantly, always remember to investigate before you invest. Call your Better Business Bureau to check out the reputation of any company, in cyberspace or the traditional marketplace.
2/2/2003

Roadrunner · 12-28-2007, 02:38 PM

Thanks for bringing this up and pointing out what difference it can make--

..yea, if it's too good to be true, more likely it isn't. (not always, but usually is)

~RR

rockdrummer · 12-28-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Thanks for bringing this up and pointing out what difference it can make--

..yea, if it's too good to be true, more likely it isn't. (not always, but usually is)
~RR

I'm glad to point it out. There is nothing worse than people taking advantage of other people. Something else noteworthy is that just because someone is a sponser on AD doesn't mean they are legit or won't rip you off. Always beware and do research before investing any money in anything regardless of the source.

Roadrunner · 12-28-2007, 02:52 PM

*off-topic*

Hmm...research?? Does this mean I can 'research' (check out) your drum set??

~RR

Cheri · 12-28-2007, 04:31 PM

Interesting....

rockdrummer · 12-31-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

*off-topic*

Hmm...research?? Does this mean I can 'research' (check out) your drum set??

~RR

Sure.. I'll send you a pic.
Just do me a favor and don't buy into a reverse funnel system. If you want to throw your money away.. throw it at me... ;-)

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12-28-2007, 10:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
rockdrummer Weapon of mass percussion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago area Posts: 3,358	they call it reverse funnel... Interestingly enough if you turn a funnel upside down it looks like a pyramid which is all this is... another pyramid scheme with a new name. (reverse funnel)

12-28-2007, 10:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
rockdrummer Weapon of mass percussion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago area Posts: 3,358	More from Ripoff Report: By Consumers, For Consumers Rip-off Report: Dynamic Marketing Alliance LLC, Inner Circle, Reverse Funnel Dynamic Marketing Alliance LLC, Inner Circle, Reverse Funnel System, RFS Promises BIG money in your pocket within hours, with NO background of any kind Las Vegas Nevada Rip-off Report: Reverse Funnel System I complete the application, received confirmation and approval; I chose the option in the application form that I was willing to invest less than $2,000.00. In the second phase of the application the only option Rip-off Report: Reverse Funnel System They tried to trick me into buying into their scheme but I have no proof Internet

12-28-2007, 02:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Roadrunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,090	Thanks for bringing this up and pointing out what difference it can make-- ..yea, if it's too good to be true, more likely it isn't. (not always, but usually is) ~RR

12-28-2007, 02:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Roadrunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,090	off-topic Hmm...research?? Does this mean I can 'research' (check out) your drum set?? ~RR