Is Club Freedom a scam? - Page 6

rockdrummer · 04-10-2007, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PePe LePew

I went to the ASL EXPO last weekend Saturday 7th in Indianapolis, Indiana, well I saw the Club Freedom and the people there were real, they explained clearly what Club Freedom is about and it's Real...

The problem is None of us takes the time to studies this Club Freedom...

Many misunderstand and thinks it's a scams and it's not...

Onlys reason why everyone thinks it's a scams, is because they were not doing anything to make money, When you puts down $200.00, that does not means you will get alots of money IMMEDIATELY, everyone got the whole shtick all misunderstanding...
You have to be patient you have to works harder to make alots of money, you do not just sits there and wait for the money to come, this is not about a MIARCLE about to HAPPEN...

You have to works for it to make the money, not sitting there and do nothing, you have to puts in the investment to make the money in a teams, but not alone, it takes time to make the money and everyone expecting alots of money Right Away are wrong, you have to works harder to make the money...

This is not a Scams, we met the real people who works for Club Freedom and I have the lady's VP phone number, she's experienced Club Freedom, So if you wants her VP phone number let me know ...

But I have enjoy the ASL EXPO, it was so much fun and a great experiences to see many different business set up there, pretty cool, goin' again this summer and fall!

So you got sucked in by the dog and pony show. I have done my research on this and I have provided links and factual information proving it's a scam. Why do you think people are getting arrested? The reason, because in the USA it's not legal. The reason its not legal is because it's mathmatically impossible for everyone to make money on this or any pyramid scheme. It's the initial investors and perhaps a handfull that get in early enough that mayl make money. Most likely they have allready done so and have moved on. Don't be a sucker and buy into this. How much more proof do you need? Are you going to believe the people that are promoting Club Freedom or are you going to believe the authorities that are arresting people for this illegal operation. Remember this is not a US based company and that is how they can claim its legal. While it may be legal in their home based coutry, here in the USA, its NOT LEGAL!!! How much more proof do you need or at least tell me what would convince you that its not?
Club Freedom IS A SCAM
DONT BE A SUCKER

SherryCherish · 04-10-2007, 01:51 PM

hey let them go, and let them find out themselve. I already talked with my lawyer and did research for me, its illegal..

SherryCherish · 04-10-2007, 01:53 PM

such lawyer said.. like you everyone say about pyramid, as well it explaination.

***VamPyroX*** · 04-10-2007, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PePe LePew

I went to the ASL EXPO last weekend Saturday 7th in Indianapolis, Indiana, well I saw the Club Freedom and the people there were real, they explained clearly what Club Freedom is about and it's Real...

The problem is None of us takes the time to studies this Club Freedom...

Many misunderstand and thinks it's a scams and it's not...

Onlys reason why everyone thinks it's a scams, is because they were not doing anything to make money, When you puts down $200.00, that does not means you will get alots of money IMMEDIATELY, everyone got the whole shtick all misunderstanding...
You have to be patient you have to works harder to make alots of money, you do not just sits there and wait for the money to come, this is not about a MIARCLE about to HAPPEN...

You have to works for it to make the money, not sitting there and do nothing, you have to puts in the investment to make the money in a teams, but not alone, it takes time to make the money and everyone expecting alots of money Right Away are wrong, you have to works harder to make the money...

This is not a Scams, we met the real people who works for Club Freedom and I have the lady's VP phone number, she's experienced Club Freedom, So if you wants her VP phone number let me know ...

But I have enjoy the ASL EXPO, it was so much fun and a great experiences to see many different business set up there, pretty cool, goin' again this summer and fall!

Club Freedom... I have to pay $200 and work to make money.

Blockbuster Video... I have to pay NOTHING and work to make money.

Which is better?

rockdrummer · 04-10-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Club Freedom... I have to pay $200 and work to make money.

Blockbuster Video... I have to pay NOTHING and work to make money.

Which is better?

The one that is not a scam!!

***VamPyroX*** · 04-10-2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockdrummer

The one that is not a scam!!

And... which is that?

Blockbuster Video or Club Freedom?

rockdrummer · 04-10-2007, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

And... which is that?

Blockbuster Video or Club Freedom?

LOL.. I'll give you two guesses and the first one doesn't count...

diehardbiker · 04-10-2007, 05:23 PM

I bet you a billion dollars that well known con-artist as Frank W. Abagnale Jr. would say that CF is SCAM! Even though he never went though pyramid business. He had conned and raked in over 4 million dollars in early '70s equal to about 60 million dollars at today dollars. What he did? He make everything LOOKS so REAL, and fool alot people. Most con artist would try to make everything looks so real, even if it means throw in money. That is what Frank W. Abagnale Jr. did.

Suggest you all watch Frank W. Abagnale, Jr. true story movie "Catch me if you can". He even fooled FBI agent and got away several times!

Even though his crimes are unrelated to this issue but this gives you an idea how con-artist thinks, and show absolutely zero guilty feeling! And how they prepared before fool anyone and rake in money.

webexplorer · 04-10-2007, 05:55 PM

I cannot believe it. I saw it on a DVD movie about Frank-Abagnale. He is asshole. You are right that he is still free and still alive. Here are two photos:

This young pilot was 18 years old.

***VamPyroX*** · 04-10-2007, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

I cannot believe it. I saw it on a DVD movie about Frank-Abagnale. He is asshole. You are right that he is still free and still alive. Here are two photos:

This young pilot was 18 years old.

Well, he's now our top fraud consultant... and has paid back everything he owe (from the people he scammed).

sequoias · 04-10-2007, 06:54 PM

It's a scam, scam, scam, scam, scam no matter what. Any job that you PAY money to start is automatically called scam. I don't pay NOTHING to get a real job!

***Jolie77*** · 04-10-2007, 07:02 PM

I'd like to add something in this -- If things sounds too good to be true, Don't go for it because chances are, it isn't a picture-perfect thing to begin with.

Sure, Those pyramids and get-rich-quick schemes sounds too good and it'd be nice to have that happen for real but that is when a BIG red flag comes up. It is wise to keep yourself at bay to be aware of what's going on rather than being so gullible and fall for a cheap trick.

diehardbiker · 04-10-2007, 11:03 PM

Yup, that is him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

I cannot believe it. I saw it on a DVD movie about Frank-Abagnale. He is asshole. You are right that he is still free and still alive. Here are two photos:

This young pilot was 18 years old.

Watercrystal · 04-11-2007, 12:29 AM

Hi,

I do not trust any free money nor free stuffs from ADS. It alway claim that will give you free insurance, give free gifits away and other. It can scam you for sure.

Let you know that one of my old friends tried to get me join Club Freedom at AOL Message, but I told her no thank and not safe for me join. I tried to warn her that was real scam. She doubt and told me that was safe. I let her learn her lesson whether it is safe or not. She said that she got two people joined.

sweet4u618 · 04-12-2007, 12:52 AM

Vamproyx, Why are not you allowing customers of alldeaf.com to type word "www.***********.biz/memberID"??? Two words Club Freedom is supposed to be together and add www. beginning and add dot biz in the ending. I don't care who want to sign up www.***********.biz/mizzamom through my name. It is security locked with my name and pay 200 dollars to CF automatically with your debit or credit card and by the time progress as your friends or other members above or under help to sign up and get 6 thousand dollars repeatly. That's all job business do. Hey, why don't you sign up pay 200 dollars and get 6 thousand dollars?? Do you want to get 6 thousand dollars as a fundraiser to closed caption, to any other deaf funds, and to your own company alldeaf.com with new designs or anything if u need more money???!!!! That is the postive and happiness we can do. Some people think it's scam because they are paranoid obessed on the wrong company. Which Club Freedom they are talking about which scam?????!!!!!!!!! It's so negative. just look up to add www. to Club to Freedom to dot to Biz to / to mizzamom. Please type all words together without "to". You can see my name as sponsor M. Shelton. Then u know I'm telling truth. and if u anyone sign up, who want to help me to move up in boards. it will help everyone and including you to get 6 thousand dollars faster if your friends sign up too and another friends sign up under your friends it will help all of us to get job business money nonscam and nontax!!!! IRS or FBI has nothing to do with nontax as I heard. Since deaf people signed up more, then they can't arrest us with good work postive happiness team just like PBS deaf history supporting Galludet University to keep deaf people going to there and even want deaf president!!!! That's all I'm saying. I don't force anyone to join. It's your desire and your wish and your choice to join as your thought nonscam or scam. If no sign up thinking scam, but then more depressed people get hurt easily with back from hard work job and hard to budget. and there will be no cf deaf teams working together anymore????????????? It's like alldeaf.com is not working together anymore. ?????????? even Cochlear Implant is worse than sign language in future like PBS deaf history keep reminding keep sign language not let cochlear implant losing sign language??????? you guys think about it. Keep our happiness up and just ignore anything like bad rumors or anything and stay strong with who you are smile any deaf CODA interpreter visually impaired anything. Enjoy the good night tonight. Take care!!! look up to yahoo groups ***********-deaf by my finance man t1966w and I'm mizzasberry in there too. If u want to look at as you like to join welcome.

***VamPyroX*** · 04-12-2007, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweet4u618

Vamproyx, Why are not you allowing customers of alldeaf.com to type word "www.***********.biz/memberID"??? Two words Club Freedom is supposed to be together and add www. beginning and add dot biz in the ending. I don't care who want to sign up www.***********.biz/mizzamom through my name. It is security locked with my name and pay 200 dollars to CF automatically with your debit or credit card and by the time progress as your friends or other members above or under help to sign up and get 6 thousand dollars repeatly. That's all job business do. Hey, why don't you sign up pay 200 dollars and get 6 thousand dollars?? Do you want to get 6 thousand dollars as a fundraiser to closed caption, to any other deaf funds, and to your own company alldeaf.com with new designs or anything if u need more money???!!!! That is the postive and happiness we can do. Some people think it's scam because they are paranoid obessed on the wrong company. Which Club Freedom they are talking about which scam?????!!!!!!!!! It's so negative. just look up to add www. to Club to Freedom to dot to Biz to / to mizzamom. Please type all words together without "to". You can see my name as sponsor M. Shelton. Then u know I'm telling truth. and if u anyone sign up, who want to help me to move up in boards. it will help everyone and including you to get 6 thousand dollars faster if your friends sign up too and another friends sign up under your friends it will help all of us to get job business money nonscam and nontax!!!! IRS or FBI has nothing to do with nontax as I heard. Since deaf people signed up more, then they can't arrest us with good work postive happiness team just like PBS deaf history supporting Galludet University to keep deaf people going to there and even want deaf president!!!! That's all I'm saying. I don't force anyone to join. It's your desire and your wish and your choice to join as your thought nonscam or scam. If no sign up thinking scam, but then more depressed people get hurt easily with back from hard work job and hard to budget. and there will be no cf deaf teams working together anymore????????????? It's like alldeaf.com is not working together anymore. ?????????? even Cochlear Implant is worse than sign language in future like PBS deaf history keep reminding keep sign language not let cochlear implant losing sign language??????? you guys think about it. Keep our happiness up and just ignore anything like bad rumors or anything and stay strong with who you are smile any deaf CODA interpreter visually impaired anything. Enjoy the good night tonight. Take care!!! look up to yahoo groups ***********-deaf by my finance man t1966w and I'm mizzasberry in there too. If u want to look at as you like to join welcome.

It is filtered because it is spam.

sweet4u618 · 04-12-2007, 01:07 AM

It is not pyramid!!!!!!!!!!!! It is like Tickle Network or Tree Root. It goes every where. It has extra one to go cycle. Take a look at videophone number in that website!!! It has deaf information on CF. That is one true company!!!!!!!! so don't get confused with which CF. Make sure it is correct CF and read carefully online plus through "trusted in person" friends only. That is good common sense to sign up. never sign up online with strangers!!!!!!! I would call it scam if it's strangers online. I know what to do. Just real careful. Take Care. I will not add anymore replies until I get money for sure. I'm sorry that CF customers I have one friend and seems alot ppl are losing motivated cuz people who are noncustomers of cf are negative to say scam on people who experienced money from CF. Well this thread must be closed until he get to find out about cf and not to prevent anything let website or any discussion going to keep manager's business better for people to like alldeaf.com anymore?????? I'm quitting this reply to this thread. Let ppl talk blah about scam as headache which cf. this poll survey is no good. Well good luck to both of you noncustomers and customers of CF and hoping manager want money fund or something. Good Luck to all.

***VamPyroX*** · 04-12-2007, 01:12 AM

Mod Note:

There's a lot of argument going on with whether or not Club Freedom is a scam.

Club Freedom is not permitted to be advertised here in AllDeaf.

Thread closed.

View Poll Results: Is Club Freedom a scam?
Yes	41	62.12%
No	12	18.18%
I don't know	13	19.70%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

04-10-2007, 01:51 PM	#152 (permalink)
SherryCherish "Can't Hear but Can See" Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 4,550	hey let them go, and let them find out themselve. I already talked with my lawyer and did research for me, its illegal.. __________________ Have a great 2007 year!

04-10-2007, 01:53 PM	#153 (permalink)
SherryCherish "Can't Hear but Can See" Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 4,550	such lawyer said.. like you everyone say about pyramid, as well it explaination. __________________ Have a great 2007 year!

04-10-2007, 05:23 PM	#158 (permalink)
diehardbiker Stuck in New York! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,165	I bet you a billion dollars that well known con-artist as Frank W. Abagnale Jr. would say that CF is SCAM! Even though he never went though pyramid business. He had conned and raked in over 4 million dollars in early '70s equal to about 60 million dollars at today dollars. What he did? He make everything LOOKS so REAL, and fool alot people. Most con artist would try to make everything looks so real, even if it means throw in money. That is what Frank W. Abagnale Jr. did. Suggest you all watch Frank W. Abagnale, Jr. true story movie "Catch me if you can". He even fooled FBI agent and got away several times! Even though his crimes are unrelated to this issue but this gives you an idea how con-artist thinks, and show absolutely zero guilty feeling! And how they prepared before fool anyone and rake in money. __________________ Please do not follow unless your driving REAL 4x4 with LOW! FUN is standard...PAVEMENT is optional.... Plus Jeep Wrangler owner too.

04-10-2007, 07:02 PM	#162 (permalink)
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04-10-2007, 05:55 PM	#159 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 4,502	I cannot believe it. I saw it on a DVD movie about Frank-Abagnale. He is asshole. You are right that he is still free and still alive. Here are two photos: This young pilot was 18 years old.

04-10-2007, 06:54 PM	#161 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: A little trip to the extraordinary. Posts: 16,295	It's a scam, scam, scam, scam, scam no matter what. Any job that you PAY money to start is automatically called scam. I don't pay NOTHING to get a real job!

04-11-2007, 12:29 AM	#164 (permalink)
Watercrystal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	Hi, I do not trust any free money nor free stuffs from ADS. It alway claim that will give you free insurance, give free gifits away and other. It can scam you for sure. Let you know that one of my old friends tried to get me join Club Freedom at AOL Message, but I told her no thank and not safe for me join. I tried to warn her that was real scam. She doubt and told me that was safe. I let her learn her lesson whether it is safe or not. She said that she got two people joined.

04-12-2007, 12:52 AM	#165 (permalink)
sweet4u618 sweet4u618 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 146	Question Vamproyx, Why are not you allowing customers of alldeaf.com to type word "www.*********.biz/memberID"??? Two words Club Freedom is supposed to be together and add www. beginning and add dot biz in the ending. I don't care who want to sign up www.*******.biz/mizzamom through my name. It is security locked with my name and pay 200 dollars to CF automatically with your debit or credit card and by the time progress as your friends or other members above or under help to sign up and get 6 thousand dollars repeatly. That's all job business do. Hey, why don't you sign up pay 200 dollars and get 6 thousand dollars?? Do you want to get 6 thousand dollars as a fundraiser to closed caption, to any other deaf funds, and to your own company alldeaf.com with new designs or anything if u need more money???!!!! That is the postive and happiness we can do. Some people think it's scam because they are paranoid obessed on the wrong company. Which Club Freedom they are talking about which scam?????!!!!!!!!! It's so negative. just look up to add www. to Club to Freedom to dot to Biz to / to mizzamom. Please type all words together without "to". You can see my name as sponsor M. Shelton. Then u know I'm telling truth. and if u anyone sign up, who want to help me to move up in boards. it will help everyone and including you to get 6 thousand dollars faster if your friends sign up too and another friends sign up under your friends it will help all of us to get job business money nonscam and nontax!!!! IRS or FBI has nothing to do with nontax as I heard. Since deaf people signed up more, then they can't arrest us with good work postive happiness team just like PBS deaf history supporting Galludet University to keep deaf people going to there and even want deaf president!!!! That's all I'm saying. I don't force anyone to join. It's your desire and your wish and your choice to join as your thought nonscam or scam. If no sign up thinking scam, but then more depressed people get hurt easily with back from hard work job and hard to budget. and there will be no cf deaf teams working together anymore????????????? It's like alldeaf.com is not working together anymore. ?????????? even Cochlear Implant is worse than sign language in future like PBS deaf history keep reminding keep sign language not let cochlear implant losing sign language??????? you guys think about it. Keep our happiness up and just ignore anything like bad rumors or anything and stay strong with who you are smile any deaf CODA interpreter visually impaired anything. Enjoy the good night tonight. Take care!!! look up to yahoo groups *********-deaf by my finance man t1966w and I'm mizzasberry in there too. If u want to look at as you like to join welcome.

04-12-2007, 01:07 AM	#167 (permalink)
sweet4u618 sweet4u618 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 146	It is not pyramid!!!!!!!!!!!! It is like Tickle Network or Tree Root. It goes every where. It has extra one to go cycle. Take a look at videophone number in that website!!! It has deaf information on CF. That is one true company!!!!!!!! so don't get confused with which CF. Make sure it is correct CF and read carefully online plus through "trusted in person" friends only. That is good common sense to sign up. never sign up online with strangers!!!!!!! I would call it scam if it's strangers online. I know what to do. Just real careful. Take Care. I will not add anymore replies until I get money for sure. I'm sorry that CF customers I have one friend and seems alot ppl are losing motivated cuz people who are noncustomers of cf are negative to say scam on people who experienced money from CF. Well this thread must be closed until he get to find out about cf and not to prevent anything let website or any discussion going to keep manager's business better for people to like alldeaf.com anymore?????? I'm quitting this reply to this thread. Let ppl talk blah about scam as headache which cf. this poll survey is no good. Well good luck to both of you noncustomers and customers of CF and hoping manager want money fund or something. Good Luck to all.

04-12-2007, 01:12 AM	#168 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 31,457	Mod Note: There's a lot of argument going on with whether or not Club Freedom is a scam. Club Freedom is not permitted to be advertised here in AllDeaf. Thread closed. __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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