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Hey guys, hearing parent here! You know, we're people just like everybody else. Some parents are good, some bad; some accept their kids for who they are, some try to make them be a certain way. It's not easy, there's very little education in the early years. It's all biased toward fixing the hearing loss, rather than accepting your child as deaf. I've worked very hard, done all the right things, but still I get criticized, from the professionals, deaf adults, other hearing parents. Some people see what I've done and give positive feedback, some see only negative. That's just the way it is. I've known deaf parents who weren't so great, I've known deaf parents who are fabulous.
I guess what I hate is when people generalize people into groups and say that's how they are. This happens so much, and it really stops us from being able to get to know the person for who they really are. Another thing I hate is people asking "if you have a child, do you want them to be hearing or deaf"? I want my child to be healthy and feel good about himself. The rest is moot. What do you guys think????? |
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So NOT a Princess!
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I have said my piece about this issue before about Deaf people with bad manners. So many Deafie friends were so rude and they don't know it themselves! Right now, I had to question their motives and their friendships with me. Usually, I had to decide to bite my "fingers". If I get rude back, they get all hot & bothered, very upset and raise holy Hell how I was an "awful person" for giving them a taste of their own "rude medicine". I guess it is true that most Deaf people are rude and have no manners. But, it is also true that some things are better off left unsaid.
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I'm quite lucky to have a mother and family members believe in me and never let on if I can't do this and that. My grandmother, when I was born and then later diagnosed deaf, she never met a deaf person before me and yet she believed in me and told mother that I'll go on to complete university and do great things. Quite inspiring and motivating. Guess what?! She's correct ![]() As for the tipping, I never heard of that particular information re: deaf customers being the worst tippers. I guess that is because in Australia, there's no tipping system. ![]() I agree something are best left unsaid as some deaf people never forgive and forget if they were criticized etc. |
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Cranial protocologist
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: St Augustine, FL
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Awwww... Deaf258 and Miss Delectable, I hear what you're saying about some people not having manners. I think this not only applies to deaf peeps tho
![]() Miss D, that's so wonderful of your grandmother to firmly believe in you! Oh, Norway doesnt have a tipping system either
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Liza, I know there's also some hearie who has bad manners. But in this thread, it was about the deaf and their manners. ![]() Thanks, yeah, I'm very lucky to have Nana dearest to believe in me. How is learning NSL going? Cheers |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: New England
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I understand your perspective...yes true...some deaf parents are bad and good...I have personally knew one deaf family who is famous to deaf community but within is very bad with dealing with each other due to lack of respect and much of imposing on each other... Funny thing, when I was grewing up in hearing family and have been always left out by hearing family in many events such as birthday party, reunions, and etc...I used to tell to my deaf friends with deaf family...I quoted to them "I envy you due to communication made easier...and know what kinds topic this you can participate in discussion" But until one deaf friend of mine shoot me with his quote "dont envy my deaf family, it is full of ashamed and abuse" I was puzzled until I went into his web circle of family...it CHANGED my viewpoint big time...it led me to ponder for years to come...so it came to point...simply answer it is something they grew up and carries on the deep wounded left unhealing and causing to expose their unhealing wounds on their children causing to have big negative reaction. So point is dont even always envy deaf family even it is heaven...deaf parents and hearing parents do carry one same thing, they can expose unhealing wounds...but of course...deaf family have one POSITIVE is communicate more easy...during hearing parents dont but but but some hearing parents are willing to learn sign language in order to communicate, it always depends on. But high percent most realized is hearing parents tend to left out their deaf child out during events such as parties or reunions etc...it is true...what u think.... |
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deaf family have one POSITIVE is communicate more easy...during hearing parents dont but but but some hearing parents are willing to learn sign language in order to communicate, it always depends on. But high percent most realized is hearing parents tend to left out their deaf child out during events such as parties or reunions etc...it is true...what u think....[/quote]
Well, I can only speak for my family, but my son feels very much a part of his family. His birthday party is this wkend and we've invited his deaf and hearing friends. His siblings treat him no different, they don't cut him slack because he's deaf nor do they exclude him. He's just one of the bunch. And he knows we go to class to learn ASL, which makes him feel good that we value his language. But it's because I've listened to Deaf people that I realized how impt it was to do this. Many Deaf people have been very supportive and helpful. But also I've felt excluded and have had anger put on me that isn't fair. |
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So NOT a Princess!
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I have noticed that early on hearie parents of dhh kids tend to greive and obsess about "Oh no...my child isn't healthy!" (b/c they associate or equate deafness and hard of hearingness with health issues) "Oh boo hoo hoo...I wish wittle Smashlie was "healthy and normal" Last edited by deafdyke; 08-17-2004 at 11:54 PM. Reason: messed up smiley |
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[quote=deafdyke]YAY!!!!! Another involved parent!!!! PrincessTabu, please don't take our rantings personally.
Deafdyke, thanks so much for your support. I don't get upset by anything written on this forum. Check out deaf-hearing relationships thread, I need some help. Thanks again... |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New Delhi (India)
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I have seen few parents they donot care for their deaf children.If they have two children,one deaf another hearing, they take care for hearing but worse for deaf.But I have a veiw that if care is taken for deaf,he/she will give more love, affection & loyal to parents.
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A "normal" child would be an "average" child. Girl, right-handed, solid "B-" student, plays with "Brats", etc, etc. Not particularly bright, nor dumb, all body parts work, but none of them work exceptionally well. Can learn anything, but will never excel at any sport, technology, or skill. Meets all of societies "norms", but never exceeds them.
In short, the "normal" child is a boring child and thankfully very few of them exist. Life is so much more interesting when we learn to accomodate the needs of others. We learn so much more about ourselves, the human spirit and our capabilities when we have obsticles to overcome. |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Ja! seen enough! My parent's hearing but do sign, not wonderful BUT better than NOTHING! They have done good support for me.
Yes, I would be pissed off when hearing parent oppressed on their own deaf child! The problem is they have no Friggin idea what deaf really is all about. In their ears, "They can't hear? OMG!!! something is wrong with us, better hide them!" rather than see them as opportunity for learning and unique achievements. Often I see them superfocus on oral and hearing and forget the potential education side which would have better opportunity in future. Most of them are lost. ![]() Hearing parents tend to follow hearing professional for the advise. Usually they aren't good advices anyway. They should have get involved with deaf, or "hard core" CODA especially deaf families and get better advice from them. Few? not enough? you hit it hard and right! Quote:
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My parents are very wonderful to me when i grew up with my wealthy familys...My mother is sub interpreter for a long times. she supportive a deafie peoples in school edcuation... she told me that she never thought about a bad thing "deaf culture"...
I want to tell you about the stories about my mom .... when i was out of the hospital from the second preggy...my mother asked me to go to eat a fancy restuarants... so i bring my brand new second daughter (i think my hard of hearing daughter ) with me.... we sat and talkative with no voice (use our sign language hands ) i was breastfeeding my second daughter and same time a sign language... four of stupid guys who sat a long bench next to us . my mom heards what all of four guys spoke and they make of fun of sign language with their voice.... my mom was hold her breath for one hours... i kept asked my mom "what matter with my mom?" she started a tear with her red eyes and not really cried.... just tear on both her eyes.... I noticed what my mom has something upset ... i cant figure out and i was pay attention my daughter was breastfeed ... so we kept contuine ate a wonderful dinner.... a finally my daughter were slept and put on scoller.... so i keep asked my mom "what matter ?" and she still refused tell me what is it ? and she said, "wait and will explain to me when we get home " and i said, okay ... we got full the stomach and time to leave the table... my mom stand up and turn around and she yelled at four stupid guys( the four guys are old and there are no young)....when i turn around and i saw what my mom yelled at four guys and i said "oh holy shitty i am firsst time i ever see what my mom is real angry at four guys and told them that my mom is hearing and can hear what the four guys said " make fun of nasty mouth about my daughter and brand new granddaughter .." The four guys were soooooooooo blashhhhed and my mom pour a beer all over the four guys .... i was laughed and everyone stand up and clap for my mom . my mom and i were laughed and walked away from stupid four guys then my mom said "fuck you and i never forgot what all of four guy said about a deaf culter" and i never see what my mom put her finger with "f" at four guys's face... then she drove the car and wwent home.... she explained to me everything what the stupid four guys said.... guess what ??? I am proud of what my mom stood by me and my daughter for supportives.... and my mom said wink and lets forgot about what happened at the fancy restuarant... i felt like i wanted to tell my parents that what i felt that I always loves mom and dad in my damn whole heart no matter what ! and thanks for teach me everything bottom to the top heart..from Kristy |
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So NOT a Princess!
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I'd have to say I am not angry with parents....there are parents out there who are 100% OK with sign and Deaf culture....but I am angry at some parents who are just so determined that ASL and Deaf culture are not useful tools. Some of them just can't deal with the fact that their child is OH NO...special needs! Others are yuppies who want kids who will go to Harvard and score perfectly on the SATs....so incredibly ironic esepcially seeing as virtually ALL those people would grab the chance for their kid to be bilingal in a spoken language. I also can't stand the parents who ignore the experiances of real live dhh people, and who follow the advice given to them by the doctors. We were there once too you know. Many of our parents thought the same as you did...and there are now many parents who are Monday morning quarterbacking and now say they wish they had exposed their kids to both ASL and English....it would be interesting to see if many of those parents who choose speech only are still trying to deal with their children's disabilties.
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AMEN to dat! i had so much hard time to talk to my mom about how i feel because she kept bitching or i could have said that shes been pushing me away, i dont even know why she had to do it even she may be right sometimes.. i tried, i have always tried, tried to tell her how i feel but not when shes pissed or bitched at me for what i had done... i cant be perfect that she wanted me to be! ... i sometimes afraid that she might be kicked me out of the house as if i moved back home with her this week.. -sighs- life is not always fair..
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