rockin'robin

(I quoted)...

Let the man serve his time....and whenever he is "somewhat rehabiliated" by the system, or has been "cured"....IF there is a cure..and the child has reached the age to fully understand what the father has done......and the child wants to see the father....then that should be up to the child.


.......When the child has reached the age to fully understand what "his Dad" did...then the child has formed his own opinion....give the child some credit for that!...whether the child feels/thinks that his Dad is a "pervert"..."a child molester"..."a rapist"....or "good ol' Dad."

Whenever his friends ask.."Why isn't ur Dad around?"...Is the kid gonna say...with his head hung low..."he's in prison for raping a child"....or is he gonna say.."My Dad's a pervert"!....The anger is gonna come out of that child!....And it all boils down to "what Dad did"!

All in all, "Dad" has done a lot of damage...not only to his own children but to other children as well...a Child Rapist is one of the most horrific crimes anyone can commit...even be "labeled as"....That's why other prisoners in prison "take good care of them"....and make them "suffer as the child they raped did"!

Whatever the Court decides to do... will be the law....but again, if it were my child...I would take him/her and run.

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Glenn

What age is that for the child to "fully understand" the situation? Who makes that determination? You? That would not be objective because you are enmeshed in the situation.

And on the run...that means basically homeless. Or hiding and always, always, always looking over your shoulder.

jillio

So, you would show your child that it is perfectly acceptable to break the law just because you believe it is right. You are giving them the same message the incarcerated parent gave them. Not to mention the other harm done to them while you are avoiding being arrested.

rockin'robin

....So now we get down to "therapy"...so "Dad" needs therapy in prison...the "child" that he raped also needs therapy (along with the family, because some parents "blame themselves" for whatever happens to their child)...."Dad's child " needs therapy too!...So does his wife and family....and whoever/whatever child he's also molested/raped.....

So...all these people need "THERAPY"!...And some people are not rich enuf to pay for it...so it falls upon the taxpayer....and it's well-known, that Therapy does not always work or even help!...And some Therapists are "quacks" too!

So, it all falls back on "Dad".....what a chain-reaction!....He not only took away the innocence of a child...he actually destroyed that child....along with his own family...and now "the poor man" wants to see his son!....Ahhhh. who feels "so sorry" for that man??....I, for one, DO NOT....I feel sorry for the children he has damaged!...(and I believe the story quoted he molested/raped [B]3 of them.

And everyone knows....the Court System is not always fair or even right!....Parents involve their children (at least I do) in making certain decisions....but the bottom-line, is the Parent who makes a decision Final.....We also, as Parents, have a right to appeal a court-ordered decision....and if we feel that visitation would do more harm than good for our child.....Unfortunately, some times the Court will overrule....and there has been instances where a Parent would "hide" their child before letting the other Parent have visitation rights, due to the fact of being a child predator/rapist/molester/pedropile, etc.

(From the original thread)...

"A youngster at the age of 5 is clearly not in the position to make an informed decision of that nature and will rely on a responsible adult around her to help with structuring that." said Dr. Rudy Nydegger, Clinical Psychologist.

It's a judge that will make that final decision. Saratoga County Family Court and the Appellate Division of the state Supreme Court ruled that the visits should be allowed. Culver's ex-wife is appealing that decision to the Court of Appeals.

rolling7

Beautiful post! Straight from the heart.

jillio

Yeah, you're right. Let's just not do anything to try to help sick people and stop the circle of family violence and sexual assault. We'll just lock them all away for life and let their children and their victims do it to the next generation.

Key word: RESPONSIBLE adult.

jillio

Don't you have some reading to do?

rockin'robin

A responsible adult tries to make the right decisions for their child...

There are some good therapists and there are some bad ones, (I've met a few)....That's why a lot of children/adults are "overly medicated."....

I do agree with you about locking up sex offenders/child molesters/rapists for life, tho.....then maybe a lot of the "bad therapists" would be out of business...

Have you ever thought of getting any therapy for urself?

jillio

Therapy for myself is part of my training. Now I ask the same question of you.

And a responsible adult made the decision in this case after weighing all of the pros and cons. This man has the right to visitation with his child. As much as you hate it, that is the way it is. And anyone who cannot consider all of the issues prior to making a decision in these cases is decidedly irresponsible, no matter how many times they tell themselves they are doing it for the child.

rockin'robin

Good rebuttal!...Nice talking to ya, Jillio...think (?) this thread has run it's course...American Idol is on....gotta watch that!

jillio

Enjoy your show.