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jillio · 02-09-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

A couple years ago, I read that 98% of deaf children from birth to the age of 5 were already implanted in Ontario.

Makes me wonder how they evaluate children on whether they make good candidates or not. 98% is quite a big number if you ask me.

Sounds like they are operating on that old "cost effectiveness" myth that the medical community promotes.

Secretblend · 02-09-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Sounds like they are operating on that old "cost effectiveness" myth that the medical community promotes.

Oh yea! It cost 5 million dollars to teach and use sign language. Sometimes can go up to 10 million but that's mighty rare! However, CI is only 60,000 dollars! whooo!!

jillio · 02-09-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

Oh yea! It cost 5 million dollars to teach and use sign language. Sometimes can go up to 10 million but that's mighty rare! However, CI is only 60,000 dollars! whooo!!

Exactly. They also say that implanted kids won't need accommodations in the mainstream classroom, and that supposedly saves society money.

What a bunch of bunk!

Byrdie714 · 02-09-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

A couple years ago, I read that 98% of deaf children from birth to the age of 5 were already implanted in Ontario.

Makes me wonder how they evaluate children on whether they make good candidates or not. 98% is quite a big number if you ask me.

**Smithtr** · 02-09-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

I know some. It's easier if you are a child. If you're an adult, it's more than unlikely. They are more than happy to implant all deaf children if they can in Ontario.

do you know research find Ontario?

Do you have doctor name?

DO you know where is search find website? I ask you question I curious anaylze to people I think so great to inerest to about to you I need information to you i need to explain to you thank

Be question to explain to me

faire_jour · 02-09-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

A couple years ago, I read that 98% of deaf children from birth to the age of 5 were already implanted in Ontario.

Makes me wonder how they evaluate children on whether they make good candidates or not. 98% is quite a big number if you ask me.

I do NOT believe this is true. You need to back this up with some facts. Less than 20% of kids with a hearing loss are profoundly deaf, and therefore eligible for CI's.

**Banjo** · 02-09-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by faire_jour

I do NOT believe this is true. You need to back this up with some facts. Less than 20% of kids with a hearing loss are profoundly deaf, and therefore eligible for CI's.

I should had been more specific. The majority of profoundly deaf children are implanted with a cochlear implant from what I know. In Ontario, around 50 children are implanted annually at the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto. Now, about the statistics, that's a good question. I read it in a magazine or somewhere a couple years ago. I looked for it online. It's not really easy trying to find information since trying to get some information on healthcare is like trying to break into Fort Knox.

Profoundly deaf children are far less common compared to these with moderate and mild hearing loss which would label them as hard of hearing.

faire_jour · 02-09-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

I should had been more specific. The majority of profoundly deaf children are implanted with a cochlear implant from what I know. In Ontario, around 50 children are implanted annually at the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto. Now, about the statistics, that's a good question. I read it in a magazine or somewhere a couple years ago. I looked for it online. It's not really easy trying to find information since trying to get some information on healthcare is like trying to break into Fort Knox.

Profoundly deaf children are far less common compared to these with moderate and mild hearing loss which would label them as hard of hearing.

I googled and found that Sick Kids has implanted around 500 kids in 18 years. It implants an average of 70 people a year.

**Bottesini** · 02-09-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by faire_jour

I googled and found that Sick Kids has implanted around 500 kids in 18 years. It implants an average of 70 people a year.

Here is a little more information for you.

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The cochlear implant device costs about $20,000 and is covered either by OHIP or special funding for cochlear implant programs in Ontario. About 50 children a year are implanted at the hospital. Another 70 adults a year are implanted across the province, in Toronto at Sunnybrook.

New Cochlear implant on leading edge for hearing-impaired.

faire_jour · 02-09-2009, 05:34 PM

So I did a little math and there are about 245,280 children born in Canada every year. 1 out of every 1000 will be deaf. That is about 245 kids. That would mean under the age of 18 there are about 4415 cochlear implant candidates. Sick Kids celebrated their 500th implant in 2005....add 150 more for the last three years....that means they have implanted 650 of the 4415. That is about 15%, not 98%

But that is just one hospital, but it is by and far the largest in Canada for CI's.

**Banjo** · 02-09-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by faire_jour

So I did a little math and there are about 245,280 children born in Canada every year. 1 out of every 1000 will be deaf. That is about 245 kids. That would mean under the age of 18 there are about 4415 cochlear implant candidates. Sick Kids celebrated their 500th implant in 2005....add 150 more for the last three years....that means they have implanted 650 of the 4415. That is about 15%, not 98%

But that is just one hospital, but it is by and far the largest in Canada for CI's.

Keep in mind that I'm talking about Ontario, not the whole country of Canada. Besides, it's difficult to find the statistics on how many profoundly deaf children are born annually in Ontario.

faire_jour · 02-09-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Keep in mind that I'm talking about Ontario, not the whole country of Canada. Besides, it's difficult to find the statistics on how many profoundly deaf children are born annually in Ontario.

To the best that I have read, 1 in 1000 live births are profoundly deaf.

jillio · 02-09-2009, 08:44 PM

Approximately 3/1000 infants are born with a significant hearing loss every year. This represents close to a 100 newborns every year in Quebec or four full classrooms of hearing-impaired children. The majority of hearing impaired children are healthy, and born to hearing parents. The average age of diagnosis for profound (severe) deafness in Quebec is between 18-30 months. Children with mild or moderate hearing loss are usually identified much later.

This includes children born with any signinificant loss. The number of profoundly deaf from birth will be considerably less. These are also numbers for Quebec only.

Universal Newborn Hearing Screening Fact Sheet

**KarissaMann05** · 02-09-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smithtr

do you know research find Ontario?

Do you have doctor name?

DO you know where is search find website? I ask you question I curious anaylze to people I think so great to inerest to about to you I need information to you i need to explain to you thank

Be question to explain to me

He said...

Do you have a doctor? What is his/her name?

Do you know where is the stat website page to find? I ask you as I curious, to anaylze people, that I think it's great to interest about your information and you. I need an information and explanation. Thanks~

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02-09-2009, 05:34 PM	#160 (permalink)
faire_jour Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,199	So I did a little math and there are about 245,280 children born in Canada every year. 1 out of every 1000 will be deaf. That is about 245 kids. That would mean under the age of 18 there are about 4415 cochlear implant candidates. Sick Kids celebrated their 500th implant in 2005....add 150 more for the last three years....that means they have implanted 650 of the 4415. That is about 15%, not 98% But that is just one hospital, but it is by and far the largest in Canada for CI's.

02-09-2009, 08:44 PM	#163 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Approximately 3/1000 infants are born with a significant hearing loss every year. This represents close to a 100 newborns every year in Quebec or four full classrooms of hearing-impaired children. The majority of hearing impaired children are healthy, and born to hearing parents. The average age of diagnosis for profound (severe) deafness in Quebec is between 18-30 months. Children with mild or moderate hearing loss are usually identified much later. This includes children born with any signinificant loss. The number of profoundly deaf from birth will be considerably less. These are also numbers for Quebec only. Universal Newborn Hearing Screening Fact Sheet