Social worker is after me… - Page 3

deafdyke · 01-27-2009, 07:53 PM

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Both of my kids qualify for CI on one side but they do fine with there HA’s and there hearing level is stable so at this point I don’t see a need.

Oh that's good. Especially since the only real benifit is being able to function in noisy situtions and localizing sound. While that's a nice benifit, it isn't VITAL.
Are you guys in touch with your state's School for the Deaf? Although the girls aren't students there, they might be able to help you with advocacy and things like that.

Babyblue · 01-27-2009, 07:53 PM

Im Glad this is progressing well for you.

If you don't me asking what newspaper will it be in, and are they online?

Do keep us posted.

Secretblend · 01-27-2009, 08:48 PM

Looks like they chose the wrong person to pick on.

LuciaDisturbed · 01-27-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

I had social services show up at my farm on Friday. She was there to talk to me about my 9 year old. We think it was a teacher that called them. She dose not like to wear her HA’s at all but will use her right one for school and sometimes when we go out. She caries one HA with her when she walks out of the house in case she needs it.

The social worker thinks we should wear our HA’s all day. She asked why we did not get CI for her yet. She wants us to get CI’s on both sides of her by July. I put in my HA because I had a phone call and took it right back out it sent her over the edge. She found out I had a second kid that had HA’s and saw her with out them and all most had a heart attack.

I could tell she knows nothing about deaf people and the technology there is for us. She did not even talk to our doctors to find out anything about our conditions. I really want to go to town and talk to her supervisor but I know I would say something and make it worse. She did make a few threats if we do not meet a few of her requests.

Both of my kids are pissed because I sent them to school with both of there HA’s in even though they both gave me a set of batteries.

What would you do?
Is being deaf that bad that I need to push my kids to wear both of there HA’s all day?
Both of my deaf kids can get CI’s but should I push them to get them if they do not want the surgery and they can live a normal life with just wearing HA’s?

That social worker should mind her own business and **** off. Get a lawyer, better yet a deaf lawyer or one that specializes in deaf cases, and have the lawyer call them and have the social worker get off your ass for you.

LuciaDisturbed · 01-27-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

This person is a supervisor and doesn't even know where to locate a terp? Unbelievable!!! Tell them for me they are in dire need of multiculutral training and are violating the ethical principle of autonomy, not to mention a couple others. The ethics board would be very interested in this kind of action.

I'm guessing the supervisor also doesn't know that the Yellow Pages exist. One can look up interpreting services in the Yellow pages or even on Google, I'm sure.

omegaman · 01-28-2009, 12:05 AM

Someone is going to get into a lot of trouble... Good on you for what you are doing!

cattlefarmer · 01-28-2009, 09:18 AM

Babyblue
I will post a link to the article if it makes it into the paper. We did an interview this morning with them. They will be out after school is out to ask more questions and stuff. They were mostly after information on being deaf, there lifestyle, there technology, and stuff like that. I’m sure it helped them when it comes down to better research now that they have more of an idea. I did leave them a bunch of rescores and some numbers of people to call and talk to.

Secetblend
You might say that but I will only push this till I’m satisfied that the people with wrong doing get what they have coming to them. So far the teacher and the social worker are the only ones at fault. I can not be but so pissed at the school board or social services because a few people went out and did what they wanted to.

The teacher is on unpaid leave pending the outcome of there investigation. The social worker has been fired and I have charged her for criminal trespassing and slander.

I know this is a sue happy world but it only looks like 2 people did this not the school board or SS. As long as the school board and SS dose there investigations fairly then how far can I push this before I become part of the problem. I would love to get this story out to the public but only if it is told with some explanation to the deaf lifestyle.

I do not want to become an outcast where I live. I don’t want to have to send my kids to private schools and home schooling is possible but do not want to go there.

Frisky Feline · 01-28-2009, 09:24 AM

wow, you must have been so busy all week. Hope next week things are going to look up for you and your family!

**Jiro** · 01-28-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

Babyblue
I will post a link to the article if it makes it into the paper. We did an interview this morning with them. They will be out after school is out to ask more questions and stuff. They were mostly after information on being deaf, there lifestyle, there technology, and stuff like that. I’m sure it helped them when it comes down to better research now that they have more of an idea. I did leave them a bunch of rescores and some numbers of people to call and talk to.

Secetblend
You might say that but I will only push this till I’m satisfied that the people with wrong doing get what they have coming to them. So far the teacher and the social worker are the only ones at fault. I can not be but so pissed at the school board or social services because a few people went out and did what they wanted to.

The teacher is on unpaid leave pending the outcome of there investigation. The social worker has been fired and I have charged her for criminal trespassing and slander.

I know this is a sue happy world but it only looks like 2 people did this not the school board or SS. As long as the school board and SS dose there investigations fairly then how far can I push this before I become part of the problem. I would love to get this story out to the public but only if it is told with some explanation to the deaf lifestyle.

I do not want to become an outcast where I live. I don’t want to have to send my kids to private schools and home schooling is possible but do not want to go there.

wwwwwwhhhhhhooooooooaaaaa!!!! they surely picked the WRONG person to mess with. outstanding!

**Phillips** · 01-28-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

Babyblue
I will post a link to the article if it makes it into the paper. We did an interview this morning with them. They will be out after school is out to ask more questions and stuff. They were mostly after information on being deaf, there lifestyle, there technology, and stuff like that. I’m sure it helped them when it comes down to better research now that they have more of an idea. I did leave them a bunch of rescores and some numbers of people to call and talk to.

Secetblend
You might say that but I will only push this till I’m satisfied that the people with wrong doing get what they have coming to them. So far the teacher and the social worker are the only ones at fault. I can not be but so pissed at the school board or social services because a few people went out and did what they wanted to.

The teacher is on unpaid leave pending the outcome of there investigation. The social worker has been fired and I have charged her for criminal trespassing and slander.

I know this is a sue happy world but it only looks like 2 people did this not the school board or SS. As long as the school board and SS dose there investigations fairly then how far can I push this before I become part of the problem. I would love to get this story out to the public but only if it is told with some explanation to the deaf lifestyle.

I do not want to become an outcast where I live. I don’t want to have to send my kids to private schools and home schooling is possible but do not want to go there.

Wow.. Awesome!

>>> Cattlefarmer.. How many you have own cattle? also what's breed?

**Bottesini** · 01-28-2009, 10:23 AM

It is great to see the underdog prevail!!

jillio · 01-28-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I hope this is not a sign for things to come...that people like this social worker would try to make it a law for all deaf children to get a CI. This is frightening that this can happen and put families at risk for being separated only because these people have sick audist views of deafness.

I am glad u are getting everything worked out.

It was mentioned earlier in the thread that she was still under probation. I'm curious...was she under probation with the licensure board for earlier infractions or violations, or was she a student doing her internship under supervision at the school?

cattlefarmer · 01-28-2009, 10:45 AM

jillio
The social worker that was under probation was because she was new to that office. They did not reveal any other info.

**Jiro** · 01-28-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

jillio
The social worker that was under probation was because she was new to that office. They did not reveal any other info.

damn probie/newbie....

ncff07 · 01-28-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It was mentioned earlier in the thread that she was still under probation. I'm curious...was she under probation with the licensure board for earlier infractions or violations, or was she a student doing her internship under supervision at the school?

welcome back jillio. did you have a nice vacation?

jillio · 01-28-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

jillio
The social worker that was under probation was because she was new to that office. They did not reveal any other info.

Okay...so her license wasn't under probation, just her employment with that school system.

jillio · 01-28-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ncff07

welcome back jillio. did you have a nice vacation?

Thanks. And, yes, I did, thank you!

Byrdie714 · 01-28-2009, 11:17 AM

School social worker or child protective services social worker?

cattlefarmer · 01-28-2009, 11:17 AM

child protective services social worker

jillio · 01-28-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

child protective services social worker

I she a licensed social worker employed by CPS, or is she just an investigator with CPS? There is a big difference, and it affects the options you have.

cattlefarmer · 01-28-2009, 11:52 AM

I think employed by CPS because of her badge. I'll find out with a phone call.

jillio · 01-28-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

I think employed by CPS because of her badge. I'll find out with a phone call.

Whether or not she is a licensed social worker makes a difference, too. They are licensed by the state independent of their employment. Most employees at CPS are not licensed professionals.

deafbajagal · 01-28-2009, 01:31 PM

Wow, this is an interesting story. I'm sorry you have to go through this - but keep fighting.

cattlefarmer · 01-28-2009, 07:11 PM

She is an unlicensed CPS worker.

flyingace · 01-28-2009, 07:18 PM

unlicensed and she's throwing her weight around threatening to take the kids?? sheesh.

kelgf · 01-28-2009, 07:36 PM

First of all I should let you know that I am hearing, and I am beside myself after having read your post! I can't believe that a social worker (acutally I do believe) would do this. Obviously this individual has NO knowledge of deaf culture. I am so sorry for what you and your family are being put through. I am just learning about deaf and their culture, the deaf are truly inspirational to me. Maybe I am more accepting of different situations facing us do to growing up with a disabled parent??? My mother had polio as a child and her entire life has walked with a crutch, now that she is getting older she has resorted to a walker. Not that I feel being deaf is a handicap! I love reading post that people make to different websites, because it allows for me to learn deaf culture. My sister has a hard of hearing friend, and an aquaintance of my husband's has a deaf daughter with CI, other than that I don't know anyone deaf or hard of hearing, that is outside of school. I wish I could offer you advice. I know in my son's case we suspected ADD we could ask our school board for a child advocate, but in your case if there isn't anyone on the school board that is deaf you are SOL. I would look into your legal rights! Best of luck and please keep me posted as to what happens!

Byrdie714 · 01-28-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

I had social services show up at my farm on Friday. She was there to talk to me about my 9 year old. We think it was a teacher that called them. She dose not like to wear her HA’s at all but will use her right one for school and sometimes when we go out. She caries one HA with her when she walks out of the house in case she needs it.

The social worker thinks we should wear our HA’s all day. She asked why we did not get CI for her yet. She wants us to get CI’s on both sides of her by July. I put in my HA because I had a phone call and took it right back out it sent her over the edge. She found out I had a second kid that had HA’s and saw her with out them and all most had a heart attack.

I could tell she knows nothing about deaf people and the technology there is for us. She did not even talk to our doctors to find out anything about our conditions. I really want to go to town and talk to her supervisor but I know I would say something and make it worse. She did make a few threats if we do not meet a few of her requests.

Both of my kids are pissed because I sent them to school with both of there HA’s in even though they both gave me a set of batteries.

What would you do?
Is being deaf that bad that I need to push my kids to wear both of there HA’s all day?
Both of my deaf kids can get CI’s but should I push them to get them if they do not want the surgery and they can live a normal life with just wearing HA’s?

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

We did have part of the meeting. The interpreter was only told that she was needed for 30 minutes and had to go after 45 minutes. There will be a meeting set up in the big city some time next week to continue what was started. We left after the interrupter left but the lawyer stayed.

The social worker that came to our house was still under probation and is going to be fired for this (so they say). We were told that she did not check in with her supervisor before she came out to our house. They are still investigating who called this in because most of the paperwork is missing. I think it has something to do with a teacher at school that has a 6 year old that is HOH and can not afford HA’s for the kid.

Zerodog I don’t think you need to worry too much about having money for a lawyer. The lawyer that were using told us there would not be a charge unless it goes to court and we win something but I hope it dose not go this far.

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

They can not do anything to us. Well my kid did drop the last jar of homemade strawberry jam today. I almost gave them a reason to step in ;-) .

The lawyer is dealing with social services. By Monday I should have a report from the school board. I did get a call off the news paper and looks like it will be covered on the front page on Saturday if they can get all there interviews done on time. I’m thinking the school board will hush them out or will not cover all the facts.

Wednesday morning the ball will get rolling a lot better. Were pressing charges on the social worker for criminal trespassing and some other charge? I have an interview with the layer and the newspaper. There planning on take pics after school at our house.

Jiro read this right.
It is all going to coming down to a teacher and a social worker that did not follow there procurers for harassment of the public.

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

Babyblue
I will post a link to the article if it makes it into the paper. We did an interview this morning with them. They will be out after school is out to ask more questions and stuff. They were mostly after information on being deaf, there lifestyle, there technology, and stuff like that. I’m sure it helped them when it comes down to better research now that they have more of an idea. I did leave them a bunch of rescores and some numbers of people to call and talk to.

Secetblend
You might say that but I will only push this till I’m satisfied that the people with wrong doing get what they have coming to them. So far the teacher and the social worker are the only ones at fault. I can not be but so pissed at the school board or social services because a few people went out and did what they wanted to.

The teacher is on unpaid leave pending the outcome of there investigation. The social worker has been fired and I have charged her for criminal trespassing and slander.

I know this is a sue happy world but it only looks like 2 people did this not the school board or SS. As long as the school board and SS dose there investigations fairly then how far can I push this before I become part of the problem. I would love to get this story out to the public but only if it is told with some explanation to the deaf lifestyle.

I do not want to become an outcast where I live. I don’t want to have to send my kids to private schools and home schooling is possible but do not want to go there.

I'm sorry cattlefarmer.......I am trying so hard to follow your situation but unfortunately I can't......I do want to help you but this is where I am having problems. So--help me out? ....

The issue I am having is that the dates don't add up.

I noticed that you posted this on Monday January 26th, 2009--talking about the previous Friday when the social worker came to your house--was Friday January 23rd or was it the week prior to that? January 16th, 2009?

Secondly, when a complaint is filed against a social worker, licensed or unlicensed, with Child Protective Services. They have to launch an investigation which takes time. They will interview the social worker and the teacher as well as interview you to make their decision.

Having them tell you that the social worker is going to be fired when the complaint is first made without an investigation on the same day that this gets posted?? Something is not right. Especially in this time frame as Child Protective Services don't move that fast when a complaint is made. Afterall has any of us ever gotten a straight answer from a governmental bureaucracy?

Third--the teacher being out on unpaid leave for possibly calling in a complaint to the social worker about the hearing aids? That sounds not kosher as school districts only force teachers to take unpaid leave when the teacher has blatantly violated a child by sexual assault, harrasment, along those lines. Being on unpaid leave for this????

Something doesn't make sense......

So--help me understand this. Thanks!

By the way--congrats on having 4 daughters. No doubt they are the apple of your eye--just like mine was.

cattlefarmer · 01-29-2009, 09:21 AM

Byrdie I understand where you’re coming from.

I had a visit on the 1-23

I was told that the social worker was going to be fired because she was still on probation. For what she is on probation for I’m not 100% sure. They did not say when she would be fired, but said she would be fired.

The school board said that the teacher would go on to unpaid leave because she admitted to talking to talking to the social worker about us and gave her our info. Because she gave out our information this is considered child endangerment, slander, and it is also a privacy issue because it was not done using the school policy. If the policy that was set up by the school board to protect the rights of students and there families then she would have nothing to do with this.

If your child was endangered by a teacher and admitted to it, do you think the school board would let them keep teaching, give them leave with pay, or leave with out pay until the investigation had been done?
No mater how you look at it she admitted to giving out info that lead to the harassment of my children, my wife, and I. just giving out the information would come down lack of privacy.

**Jiro** · 01-29-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cattlefarmer

No mater how you look at it she admitted to giving out info that lead to the harassment of my children, my wife, and I. just giving out the information would come down lack of privacy.

schools are very very very very stickler about FERPA law and I'm appreciative of that.

jillio · 01-29-2009, 09:49 AM

Here is how it works with the school system. Teachers are mandated reporters. That means if they suspect child neglect or abuse in any way, they are mandated by law to report to CPS within 24 hours of the suspicion. If they do not report it, they are liable for legal prosecution. Once they report to CPS, it then becomes CPS's obligation to follow up on the complaint and make sure that the child is safe.

Even though this teacher may hqave jumped the gun, so to speak, if it is written into this child's IEP that hearing aids are to be worn during class times, and the hearing aid is not being worn, she followed the law in reporting this. CPS then followed their legal obligation by sending an investigator to check on the child's welfare.

I don't particularly agree with the philosophy of forcing a child to wear a hearing aid, but the fact of the matter is, these people were doing what they are mandated to do under the law.

My suggestion would be that you call an IEP meeting and have the IEP amended to include the fact that the child will not be wearing their hearing aid at all times. Of course, you will need to come up with a reason other than she simply doesn't want to wear it. Typically it would be that she receives so little benefit that the hearing aid interferes with her ability to discriminate visual information.

As the investigator is unlicensed, there isn't much you can do epcept file a complaint with CPS regarding her attitude. That will be handled internally.

01-28-2009, 12:05 AM	#66 (permalink)
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01-28-2009, 09:18 AM	#67 (permalink)
cattlefarmer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VA Posts: 54	Babyblue I will post a link to the article if it makes it into the paper. We did an interview this morning with them. They will be out after school is out to ask more questions and stuff. They were mostly after information on being deaf, there lifestyle, there technology, and stuff like that. I’m sure it helped them when it comes down to better research now that they have more of an idea. I did leave them a bunch of rescores and some numbers of people to call and talk to. Secetblend You might say that but I will only push this till I’m satisfied that the people with wrong doing get what they have coming to them. So far the teacher and the social worker are the only ones at fault. I can not be but so pissed at the school board or social services because a few people went out and did what they wanted to. The teacher is on unpaid leave pending the outcome of there investigation. The social worker has been fired and I have charged her for criminal trespassing and slander. I know this is a sue happy world but it only looks like 2 people did this not the school board or SS. As long as the school board and SS dose there investigations fairly then how far can I push this before I become part of the problem. I would love to get this story out to the public but only if it is told with some explanation to the deaf lifestyle. I do not want to become an outcast where I live. I don’t want to have to send my kids to private schools and home schooling is possible but do not want to go there. __________________ I’m a deaf father and have 4 girls. Two of my kids are deaf.

01-28-2009, 10:23 AM	#71 (permalink)
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01-28-2009, 10:45 AM	#73 (permalink)
cattlefarmer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VA Posts: 54	jillio The social worker that was under probation was because she was new to that office. They did not reveal any other info. __________________ I’m a deaf father and have 4 girls. Two of my kids are deaf.

01-28-2009, 11:17 AM	#79 (permalink)
cattlefarmer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VA Posts: 54	child protective services social worker __________________ I’m a deaf father and have 4 girls. Two of my kids are deaf.

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01-27-2009, 07:53 PM	#62 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 12,001	Im Glad this is progressing well for you. If you don't me asking what newspaper will it be in, and are they online? Do keep us posted.

01-27-2009, 08:48 PM	#63 (permalink)
Secretblend Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,746	Looks like they chose the wrong person to pick on.

01-28-2009, 09:24 AM	#68 (permalink)
Frisky Feline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20,239	wow, you must have been so busy all week. Hope next week things are going to look up for you and your family!

01-28-2009, 11:17 AM	#78 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,941	School social worker or child protective services social worker?

01-28-2009, 11:52 AM	#81 (permalink)
cattlefarmer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VA Posts: 54	I think employed by CPS because of her badge. I'll find out with a phone call. __________________ I’m a deaf father and have 4 girls. Two of my kids are deaf.

01-28-2009, 01:31 PM	#83 (permalink)
deafbajagal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,171	Wow, this is an interesting story. I'm sorry you have to go through this - but keep fighting.

01-28-2009, 07:11 PM	#84 (permalink)
cattlefarmer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VA Posts: 54	She is an unlicensed CPS worker. __________________ I’m a deaf father and have 4 girls. Two of my kids are deaf.

01-28-2009, 07:18 PM	#85 (permalink)
flyingace Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on top of the doghouse Posts: 303	unlicensed and she's throwing her weight around threatening to take the kids?? sheesh.

01-28-2009, 07:36 PM	#86 (permalink)
kelgf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 13	Wow! First of all I should let you know that I am hearing, and I am beside myself after having read your post! I can't believe that a social worker (acutally I do believe) would do this. Obviously this individual has NO knowledge of deaf culture. I am so sorry for what you and your family are being put through. I am just learning about deaf and their culture, the deaf are truly inspirational to me. Maybe I am more accepting of different situations facing us do to growing up with a disabled parent??? My mother had polio as a child and her entire life has walked with a crutch, now that she is getting older she has resorted to a walker. Not that I feel being deaf is a handicap! I love reading post that people make to different websites, because it allows for me to learn deaf culture. My sister has a hard of hearing friend, and an aquaintance of my husband's has a deaf daughter with CI, other than that I don't know anyone deaf or hard of hearing, that is outside of school. I wish I could offer you advice. I know in my son's case we suspected ADD we could ask our school board for a child advocate, but in your case if there isn't anyone on the school board that is deaf you are SOL. I would look into your legal rights! Best of luck and please keep me posted as to what happens!

01-29-2009, 09:21 AM	#88 (permalink)
cattlefarmer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VA Posts: 54	Byrdie I understand where you’re coming from. I had a visit on the 1-23 I was told that the social worker was going to be fired because she was still on probation. For what she is on probation for I’m not 100% sure. They did not say when she would be fired, but said she would be fired. The school board said that the teacher would go on to unpaid leave because she admitted to talking to talking to the social worker about us and gave her our info. Because she gave out our information this is considered child endangerment, slander, and it is also a privacy issue because it was not done using the school policy. If the policy that was set up by the school board to protect the rights of students and there families then she would have nothing to do with this. If your child was endangered by a teacher and admitted to it, do you think the school board would let them keep teaching, give them leave with pay, or leave with out pay until the investigation had been done? No mater how you look at it she admitted to giving out info that lead to the harassment of my children, my wife, and I. just giving out the information would come down lack of privacy. __________________ I’m a deaf father and have 4 girls. Two of my kids are deaf.

01-29-2009, 09:49 AM	#90 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Here is how it works with the school system. Teachers are mandated reporters. That means if they suspect child neglect or abuse in any way, they are mandated by law to report to CPS within 24 hours of the suspicion. If they do not report it, they are liable for legal prosecution. Once they report to CPS, it then becomes CPS's obligation to follow up on the complaint and make sure that the child is safe. Even though this teacher may hqave jumped the gun, so to speak, if it is written into this child's IEP that hearing aids are to be worn during class times, and the hearing aid is not being worn, she followed the law in reporting this. CPS then followed their legal obligation by sending an investigator to check on the child's welfare. I don't particularly agree with the philosophy of forcing a child to wear a hearing aid, but the fact of the matter is, these people were doing what they are mandated to do under the law. My suggestion would be that you call an IEP meeting and have the IEP amended to include the fact that the child will not be wearing their hearing aid at all times. Of course, you will need to come up with a reason other than she simply doesn't want to wear it. Typically it would be that she receives so little benefit that the hearing aid interferes with her ability to discriminate visual information. As the investigator is unlicensed, there isn't much you can do epcept file a complaint with CPS regarding her attitude. That will be handled internally.

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