moveright

yeah. as far as an explanation... hey, sometimes just saying "no" isn't enough to get the point across.

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ssnorwaygirl

Yes, but only on very rare occassions. Such as when they were disrespecting both themselves and myself, and when they deliberately put themselves in harms way after being forwarned. I had to learn, LOL, that children may hear, but they don't always listen. I've got 3; ages, 22, 16 and 5. Had my first one at the tender age of 23.

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Angel

Spanking a child on the bottom is not the same as physical abuse and I would NEVER spank my children with an object, only with my hands. I rarely spank them since they're all growing up but when my children were little, they threw a tantrum at the store because they want something or at home, or if they did something very bad enough such as running into the street, or bite another child real hard and left a mark behind, that's the only time I would spank my children..

I was spanked as a child with a paddle by both of my parents, and I turned out just fine even through it was painful cause I didn't like the paddle board and do I think spanking is wrong? Absolutely not but I don't believe in spanking with an object..

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Of all the controversial issues in parenting perhaps none is more heated than spanking. Most of us probably can recount seeing an out-of-control parent in a parking lot or supermarket (if not in a home) smack a child. And if you’ve seen it once, it likely left an indelible impression.

In California, one lawmaker says she's had enough. Democratic assemblywoman Sally Lieber has introduced a bill that would outlaw this behavior with children under age 4. If the bill becomes law, that parent in the parking lot could be charged with a misdemeanor punishable by a year in jail or a fine of up to $1,000, making California the first state with such a law. The use of physical punishment to discipline children is already illegal in Austria, Finland, Germany and Sweden.

“I think parents only use it because they get to the end of their ropes, "Usually, the problem is that they haven’t set up boundaries and clear limits. If there aren’t limits, kids will just push and push parents as far as they can.”

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Liebling:-)))

I am glad to know about charge the parents for public spanking their children at CA law. Public spanking is not solve anything but worst. It's not hard to solution is: discipline the children about their behavior and let them know how I feel about their behavior manner to the public. Don't do that again... Promise? It work pretty good mostly only if you remind the child everytime before you both leave for shopping or whatever.

You can see physical punishment and corprol punishment are banned in many EU countries. Can you explain how they behave well without get their parent's spanking? Where it come from?

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I disagree both.

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Liebling:-)))

Yes I use positive consequence and respectful bond with my children without spank or whatever. Yes, it's mainly important to solve and work out with children.

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Liebling:-)))

You said that you was spanked as a child. How do you feel? Hurt?

I know what it alike... very hurt...


When you get hurt then is an abuse.

I don't spank my children for their misbehaved but positive their behavior.

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Liebling:-)))

[quote]Yes I did the same with my boys as well.


guilty? No, we were being taught how to positive our children's misbehavior and agree that spank done harmful.

Yelling/humilation and spanking are the same thing becuase it done harm to children.

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Cheri

When a child is hurt it is a form of abuse? I supposed when a child falls down on his/her own and it hurts that a form of abuse? And I supposed when a child falls off his bike, and he's hurt that's a form of abuse also?

That doesn't make no sense, Liebling. Of course spanking hurts a child's butt, why would spanking be included in how to discipline your child? spanking only leaves a red temporary mark it'll fade away in seconds or minutes.

a form of abuse would be bruises or cuts, head injuries, poisoning fractures, sprains, burns or scalds and death on a child by their parents or anyone else.

And shaken baby syndrome is also a form of abuse. Those I listed above doesn't allow parents to use those as a form of discipline.

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Reba

Sometimes parents have "hurt" a child in order to help him. It's not abuse.

If a child skins his knee and mom has to clean the wound, that hurts and stings. I know kids often try to "fight" mom when she has to clean out a wound. Mom does that to prevent infection. The temporary pain of cleansing the wound is necessary to prevent serious infection.

Many things that are beneficial to a child will temporarily "hurt". Getting dental fillings, pulling out slivers, getting inoculations, pulling tangles out of long hair, setting a broken bone, etc. Parents can't truthfully say, "Oh, I never hurt my child." A parent needs to be willing to sometimes "hurt" the child to help him.

Keep up the good work!

Cheri

!! I agree and it's true.

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smithtr

I think so parents wrongdoing, don't do that spank . That is not fair to spank.

many of kids really scared. Shocked. Don't be hurt to little children. Serious

Bear

LOL I used to be like several of you and not believe in spankings and believed in positive reinfocements and other forms of discipline.

With my daughter that worked fine.

THEN my son was born. I learned quick to rethink my initial thought of how to raise him.

While he is in trouble for something he didnt do.


He was an ADD child and a HANDFUL. If I sent him to his room as punishment, he would wait till I was in the bathroom, then sneak out the door. If I put him in the corner for time out, he would wait till I had to do something and leave the room, out the door he goes. If I tried to talk to him about it he would just roll his eyes. I called the cops on him, and the cop did talk to him and the very next day he was right back to the same behaviour. I couldn't ground him at all, as the minute I went to the bathroom or turned my back on him to do something, out the door he would go. I took things away from him, that didnt bother him at all he would just sneak out the door.

I had him in counseling, I went to parenting classes, I went to counseling and NO ONE had any answers on how to deal with him.

MAYBE just MAYBE if I had spanked him while he was growing up, he may not be in the trouble he is in today.

ANYONE can say what they want about spankings, but UNTIL they raise a true problem child, I would say they know next to nothing about how valuable and useful a few swats on the but could be.

Have a child like my son was and then get back to me.


I find it funny though that when my son was in the foster home, these so called experts couldnt control him either! Their only answer was to lock him up in a detention facility.He would have been better off with me at home, than with them. At least I was trying to correct his behaviour. Not shove it off on someone else.

When I was growing up, we were spanked with belts, switches *anyone remember that? Having to go out and cut a switch off the tree?* and many other items. And we had paddlings in school, and was told you get in trouble at school, you get it at home too!

We also grew up having respect for our parents, ourselves, and our elders. We sure didnt get into trouble like these kids are today. Look it up and see how many school shootings there were back then! Look it up and see how much juvenile crime there was back then!

I challenge you to actually see for youselves the differences in our children then and now!

I also challenge you to try raising a son like mine was.

Luckily, my son is older now and realizing just how destructive his behaviour was for him.

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Cheri, you are so right about everthing you said here. You sound like a great mom.

Gemma

I was spanked once in my childhood and I never forgot it. It certainly taught me my lesson and I did not repeat the negative act which was throwing avocados at next door's house windows, breaking the glass.

I have never spanked my children but I am not against it if it is used for constructive reasons. Sometimes a spanking gets farther across than a word but I hate to see parents abusing this. Intially, it is not a form of abuse but it will become abuse if parents continue to spank out of frustration and anger. There are many other constructive ways to deal with a child acting out.

GalaxyAngel

Accord of Canada Law, Not allowed the spank your child.. as consider you're ABUSE!
Likely whoa.. Horse wait minute, Spank is simple discipline but still you're still consider abuse!
Forget it! Agency protection worker will apprehended your child away from family because you're spank the child and still you're part of abuse the child. Tiny thing mistake.. Still apprehended your child away from family for good.. Get your lawyer and long haul battle.. Worth for your life struggle.. Agency is powerful than gov't... IMO!

Really find this extreme crazy way stupid agency of control and want powerful overcome the gov't system.

If your child is AHGD/ADD or ODD, or CD or other kind of mental illness... Still apprehended your child away from family.. That's very quite sick!
That why we are not going discipline our child use our hand weapon "spank child".

Isn't fun..

Depend the country where r u coming from..
I heard some of states who allowed the spank their child.. (Extreme lucky somewhat have good reason)

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jillio

Never, ever spank your child when you are angry. That is when you risk goi9ng too far. By the same token, I always sent my son to his room until I was sure I was calm before talking to him about his behavior, as well, because anger can also turn into verbal abuse.

GarnetTigerMom

well, I been spank but that not means my parents beat me up like punch in a face, or throw against the wall or pulling hair or bite me. that abuse. Spaking on the butt lightly will not do any serious damange. Every parent discipline differently. But I do know what like to be beaten with a belt when I was teenager and throw against the wall so that entirly different type of abuse.

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Pepsi

I do know what that was like.

GarnetTigerMom

took me long time to forgive my parents the way they treated me as teenager was the worst time of my life. I was glad I was in boarding school not see them everyday.

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