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Unread 07-24-2006, 10:37 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Oh my God, Cheri, I am so sorry about what happened to your son! My eyes were filled with tears while I was reading all the posts in here. I am with those who are advising you to take Jordan to a hospital for an examination and report it to the police. I am sure the police will tell you what to do. If you decide to go to visit the bully's mother please have someone to go with you, please don't go by yourself.
I wish we could be there with you while you are going through this crisis.
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Unread 07-24-2006, 11:01 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Parents can be held liable for the actions of their children's so get the police involved and press charges against both the kid and his parents.

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Unread 07-24-2006, 11:03 AM   #33 (permalink)
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GOOOOOOOOOO to the POLICE NOW NOW NOW! Not later not 1 hour not 1/2 hour not 5 min NOW!.

I know what to DO! You act like I don't know what to do as a mother? Why in the world would I create this thread in the first place??!! Most police officers would asked if I ever spoke to the parents first before calling them to be aware of what their children did. I wasn't born yesterday Leah!

Anyway, I already spoke to the mother, She was unaware of what happened Saturday afternoon, She did asked me why I didn't talked to her on Saturday after it happened, I explained to her that I was out of town during that time, didn't arrived back until this morning at 4 am. And she told me that she was very sorry what he son did, and was going to deal with him once he wakes up. Now that I don't know if she is being truthful to me or not. My other son who is 11 years old son said she sounds seriously.

Right now I'm in the middle of talking to the police and while at it, the police are now at the apartment to talk to the mother....
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Unread 07-24-2006, 11:04 AM   #34 (permalink)
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That's what I thought too at the begin, It thought assult is an assult no matter the age of the person. But I wasn't sure, so had to asked. I better get going and do this, Wish me good luck because I needed it.
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What did the father do?

When did this happen? Yesterday?
I'll bet there isn't a father which is probably why the kid is acting out.
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Unread 07-24-2006, 11:07 AM   #36 (permalink)
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What did the father do?

When did this happen? Yesterday?
Okay, It happened on Saturday afternoon, Well, all he did was ran outside and stopped the 9 years old from striking. And he did told the 9 years old to get off the property or else, and said to never be around the boys again. I was pretty furious that he did not phoned the police. Men!!!! I guess each person handle it differently, but not me, I take care of any problems that my children have.
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Unread 07-24-2006, 11:08 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I'll bet there isn't a father which is probably why the kid is acting out.
She is speaking of Markus's dad. He's the one who came out.
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Unread 07-24-2006, 11:15 AM   #38 (permalink)
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She is speaking of Markus's dad. He's the one who came out.
oh sorry.... Does the bully have a dad that lives with him?
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Unread 07-24-2006, 11:18 AM   #39 (permalink)
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oh sorry.... Does the bully have a dad that lives with him?
Yes he does.
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Unread 07-24-2006, 11:38 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Right now the police are with my son, to ID the 9 years old boy... So now I'm waiting...
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Unread 07-24-2006, 12:03 PM   #41 (permalink)
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The police said that it's gotta be hard to charge a 9 years old for assault, because of his age. So the police did spoke to the mother and the mother said that she talked with me this morning not too long ago and that she was gotta take care of him, and hopefully he would not do it again, The police told the mother that he will be on the report and within a warning, so if he hit someone else or Jordan, He will be picked up for assault charge.

The police told me not to have the boys to play with this 9 years old anymore and that he would have to not play with them either. This isn't what I'm hoping for, I was hoping that he would be charge for assault. I did showed the police all the injuries on his leg and arm from striking by a hair brush, and also his eye is very noticeable. Markus been hitted just once for grabbing the hair brush from the 9 years old kid.

Now after the police left, the 9 yeard old boy started telling my son's friends that we called the police on everyone in that apartment where he lives at, I also saw him outside playing, I knew his mom was not gotta do jack shit about it!
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Unread 07-24-2006, 12:15 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Now after the police left, the 9 yeard old boy started telling my son's friends that we called the police on everyone in that apartment where he lives at, I also saw him outside playing, I knew his mom was not gotta do jack shit about it!

Don't forget the medical expense and mail it to bully boy's mother...
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Unread 07-24-2006, 12:17 PM   #43 (permalink)
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It is the best for you son to not hang around with that boy who hitted him really bad due to safety issues.

Keep away from that boy! If I were in your shoes, I would not let my sons nearby those children who are out acting. I am very cherish my sons even they are adults. They are still my babies until I die.
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Unread 07-24-2006, 12:21 PM   #44 (permalink)
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That's good that you report to police. I'm wondering how does your son's feeling after police left? I hope he's alright. If I were you, I would keep a copy of report and pictures in safe place and also I would tell your son's friends' (especially in your neighborhood) parents about what was going on just make sure they are aware of like to be cautious. I hope your son will be healed soon.
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Unread 07-24-2006, 12:29 PM   #45 (permalink)
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It is the best for you son to not hang around with that boy who hitted him really bad due to safety issues.)
They don't play with him anymore, but both of my son's friends all live in that apartment next door to where I live, and the problem is this 9 years old boy telling my son's friends a bunch of lies that wasn't even true that he supposedly said that we called the police on every child that lives in that apartment for jumping on Jordan. That is not what exactly happened, We only told on that 9 years old kid, Now I already phoned the police back and was yelling at them about my kids protection, If they're police officers and we're paying their salary then better do something about this boy! He should not get away with it, an assault is an assault no matter how you look at it, or the age of this person.

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My boys are pretty upset that the 9 years old got away with it, Jordan looked horrible if you only knew, I .. am pretty speechless at this moment, and angry at the same time. Police officers just turn me off, I don't like how they handle things sometimes. Where's my children's right into this matter? Just because a kid beat another kid, make them so special that they can get away with it anytime, any place?
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Unread 07-24-2006, 12:51 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Don't forget the medical expense and mail it to bully boy's mother...
I didn't forget, I am gotta mail her the bill statement once it arrives, and if she doesn't pay, I'm going to haul her ass to court.
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Cheri, I'm sorry to hear what happened to your boy. If that 9 yr old is truly the neighborhood bully and he's telling other kids stories about you and your boys contacting the police, those friends should know that stories coming from a bully are just that.....made up stories. Oh, boy, talk about peer pressure and fear. Oh, well, eventually that 9 yr old will get what's coming to him, eventually and grows out of this behavior.

I think it might still be a good idea to have Markus checked out at the clinic where a report will be written in addition to checking his bruises, especially his eye, just in case.
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Thanks for the advice, but really this isn't what I am looking for, What I really wanted to know if pressing charge against a minor of the age of 9 is allow, or is that not possible because of the age?

I talked to both of my sons to get the story, they're both said that there were other kids around during the time of the beaten, I've got their names and their address in case the police needs witnesses. Here's my plan, I am going to walk up to the apartment where this 9 years old boy lives, I do know him, and I knew from day one he was up to no good. He isn't that type of person that I want my boys to hang around with. I am going to talk to his mother and showed him what her son did to my son, and if nothing is solved, then I am going to go to the police department and file charge, I don't want to press charge against the mother because the mother is not the one who did the beaten, this 9 years old did, and I'm certain not going to let him get away with it, He should be punished one way or another, While hearing the story from both of my sons and the horror that Jordan felt during the time he was laying flat down on the driveway, His and my other son's scream what made the beaten stopped, I'm glad that my son's father was out just in time before it would have gone worst. Even through I'm not happy with how Jordan was beaten, I felt like my heart was turned upside down, I cannot explain those feelings, but I wanted so badly to put my hands on that 9 years old kid and scream at him on the top of my lungs.

I have no patience with parents beaten on kids, or kids beaten on kids. I'm glad Jordan did not fought back, because I told him once before never hit someone who hits you, walk away, and both of my sons did just the moment that Jordan got hit by this kid with a close fist toward his eye, while walking home this 9 years old boy followed them and brought an object which a hair brush in his hand, strike my boy a couple of times with that hair brush. Gosh! Sometimes I wondered what the hell is wrong with people sometimes even kids. Didn't their parents ever taught them the right way?!

I'm so furious right now that I cannot think straight, I hope I stay in a calm position once I approach to the mother of this 9 years old boy, I'll try my darnest to remain in calm. There are always three sides to every story, the 9 years old boy's side, my both of my son's side, and the truth. I hope I'll find the truth in this matter.

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going to talk the parent of 9 yrs old boy wont do any good..... call Junenvile Officers and press a charge against the parents.. it is parents responsibility to discipline their own kids... take your son to dr.. get a proof... get statements from other kids who witnessed the bully behavior...

You must do something about this before it gets worse in the future..
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Unread 07-24-2006, 12:56 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Cheri, I admire you for being a good mother to your boys. I hope the bully learnt his lesson after the police talked to him. Again, I am so sorry about what you had to go through. I know how hard it is on you. Hope Jordan will have a speedy recovery. Hugs to you and your boys from me.
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Since you already have done all the works by reporting it to the police, and so on... Apparently from what you said - the police did not do much of a help with the situation, Sometime you have to take it in your hand to find a different avenue to hope to solve the situation. Bulliness is of course a serious thing that needs to be looked at. Do whatever you can do to be sure to make the mother and the bully aware of that you do mean business which I'm sure you are. Again, I am sorry that your son should have not deserved that treatment.
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Cheri..

i am glad that you get things over with.. but I understand that you are upset that mother didnt do jack crap..

it happens alot.. you are not only one.. we went through this before.. a kid who hurt one of our kids.. and telling others.. be expected for wrost or not..

just.. keep your son busy in other way.. or find him something else to do.. avoid those crowd.. i know its unfair.. but thats life ..

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Unread 07-24-2006, 01:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Since you already have done all the works by reporting it to the police, and so on... Apparently from what you said - the police did not do much of a help with the situation, Sometime you have to take it in your hand to find a different avenue to hope to solve the situation. Bulliness is of course a serious thing that needs to be looked at. Do whatever you can do to be sure to make the mother and the bully aware of that you do mean business which I'm sure you are. Again, I am sorry that your son should have not deserved that treatment.

His mother not gotta listen to me, I tried to talk to her before about her son stole a game from my other son, and she didn't even care to asked him about the game, and now the assault, she said she would deal with him once he wakes up, Why was he outside playing with his friends? I feel like all this had happened was just thrown out like it meant nothing to them. The police officer is just a joke, he said you cannot press charge against a 9 years old for assault, it happens everyday, kids fight with other kids, someone gets hurt. It's the parents responsibly to take in charge of their own kids. But this boy's mother is not doing anything, no punishment and so Jordan gets no justice huh? That is bullshit!

I've told both of my boys that they're not allow to play around the apartment anymore, if their friends want to play with them, they have to play at our place of home, I cannot trust this 9 years old kid, I've already saw his side of temper and without knowing what he'll do next. I cannot take that risk.

I still want this boy to be punished, sending his family a medical bill is not really justice for Jordan. His family could pay tons of medical bills but this kid is gotta be proud that he beat every child on the block. You know how bullies are, They like the power and this 9 years old kid has it.
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Aww gawd! I would be pissed... First of all Im sooo sorry about your son and hopes he feels better...

Second of all, filed a police report and go talk to a lawyer.... Lawyers always have ideas. Don't get me wrong they will come up with a punishment for the 9 year old, Maybe send him to J-ville or a group home till he gets his act stright. Apparently the mother is looking for trouble also since she isn't doing JACK SWAT! I really hope you get this strighten out which I have seen your post... Ingore them BUT don't let your son outside playing by himself unless you are out there to watch him to keep him SAFE!
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assault is an assault no matter how you look at it, or the age of this person.

To answer your question, Sunshine

My boys are pretty upset that the 9 years old got away with it, Jordan looked horrible if you only knew, I .. am pretty speechless at this moment, and angry at the same time. Police officers just turn me off, I don't like how they handle things sometimes. Where's my children's right into this matter? Just because a kid beat another kid, make them so special that they can get away with it anytime, any place?
Yea I know what you mean. That wouldn't make this nine yrs old boy and his parents learn their lessons at this point! If I remmy correct, I watched news a few years ago that kid's parents will be charged. Other time, kids have to go to boot camps or parents have to go to meeting relating to how to be a better parents. I'm wondering if DHS (Department of Human Services) would help you file against that boy and/or his parents? Perhaps they will do something. Can't hurt to try. Cheri, I know sometimes police officers don't do what we want. That has been bothersome and I don't understand why.
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Unread 07-24-2006, 01:19 PM   #55 (permalink)
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i am glad that you get things over with.. but I understand that you are upset that mother didnt do jack crap..

it happens alot.. you are not only one.. we went through this before.. a kid who hurt one of our kids.. and telling others.. be expected for wrost or not..

just.. keep your son busy in other way.. or find him something else to do.. avoid those crowd.. i know its unfair.. but thats life ..

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Yeah, I hate parents like that, that doesn't even care what their children does to other children, or property, or etc for all that matters. My boys know that I'll be very upset if they ever done anything so wrong. I wish more parents would act like parents not allowing their children be the boss, or allowing them to harm others.

From what I've heard that this 9 years old kid had hurt other children the same age as my son who is 6, One of them who was 3 end up in the hospital with a broken leg. He was never been arrested. How many chances of warning does this boy have in order to get arrested? If he had done it before? How come the police knew where this boy lives with just a first name and last name? Hummm.. Makes me wonder if he had a lot of statements that been reported by victims parents.
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His mother not gotta listen to me, I tried to talk to her before about her son stole a game from my other son, and she didn't even care to asked him about the game, and now the assault, she said she would deal with him once he wakes up, Why was he outside playing with his friends? I feel like all this had happened was just thrown out like it meant nothing to them. The police officer is just a joke, he said you cannot press charge against a 9 years old for assault, it happens everyday, kids fight with other kids, someone gets hurt. It's the parents responsibly to take in charge of their own kids. But this boy's mother is not doing anything, no punishment and so Jordan gets no justice huh? That is bullshit!

I've told both of my boys that they're not allow to play around the apartment anymore, if their friends want to play with them, they have to play at our place of home, I cannot trust this 9 years old kid, I've already saw his side of temper and without knowing what he'll do next. I cannot take that risk.

I still want this boy to be punished, sending his family a medical bill is not really justice for Jordan. His family could pay tons of medical bills but this kid is gotta be proud that he beat every child on the block. You know how bullies are, They like the power and this 9 years old kid has it.

Since you said the police told you that you couldn't press charges against that 9 years old boy and the mother is not doing any jack about it. Try going after the mother and press the charges on the mother since after all, I agree with you - it is the parent's responsibility to take care of the situation and to resolve the situation. Unfortunately in your case, it didn't do much help when you tried to take it to the police. What I meant by taking it in your own hands is to try to take it to your lawyer or some other kind of help to see if they will help you with the situation to press the charges against the mother or something like that. I am also with you on wanting the boy to be punished because it is nuts to be beating another child (your child that is) and it has went too far to be un-neccessary.

That brings me up a thought - What has got into that boy to do something like that? Was he taught to be like this or has his parents treated him horribly in order for him to turn it out like this?
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Cheri, I admire you for being a good mother to your boys. I hope the bully learnt his lesson after the police talked to him. Again, I am so sorry about what you had to go through. I know how hard it is on you. Hope Jordan will have a speedy recovery. Hugs to you and your boys from me.
Thanks ButterFlyGirl, I just don't think any kid deserved to be beaten, and when I found out my son been beaten, I just lost it, I cried, I was so angry that I don't even understand why kids have to be so cruel to one another. I know it's the parents fault, they're too lazy to teach their own kids from right and wrong.

And thanks everyone else in here who cares to listen about my son's well being.

I gotta treat Jordan with some ice cream today and Markus as well for protecting his brother. I thanked Markus for looking out for his brother, without him who knows what would have happened.
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hugs cheri, im sorry that your son got bullied. I hope one of those days that 9 yr old kid will get bullied by someone else and get the taste of what its like to be bullied by someone else.

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The police won't do anything about it just because the boy is only 9 years old? and the police said if this boy does it again, they will finally do something about it? what if he end up killing someone? is that how far the police willing to let this young boy go?...I'm sorry I haven't posted anything since I arrived home, but Roadrunner filled me in about this situation, and I'll be coming over your house in a little bit... Aww sis I'm very sorry to hear what happened to them over the weekend, will get to the bottom of this once I get there....
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From what I've heard that this 9 years old kid had hurt other children the same age as my son who is 6, One of them who was 3 end up in the hospital with a broken leg. He was never been arrested. How many chances of warning does this boy have in order to get arrested? If he had done it before? How come the police knew where this boy lives with just a first name and last name? Hummm.. Makes me wonder if he had a lot of statements that been reported by victims parents.

Wow ... call DHS I'm sure they will check on that boy at his house. Something is wrong over there. I don't like the sound of it.
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