Mom Makes Daughter Stand on Street Corner - Page 6

Liebling:-))) · 11-30-2005, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

So, I am trying to explain to you that you might NOT know the full story of whats going on between this mother and her daughter. This mother may have tried everything, including positive reinforcement and it fails. WHAT ELSE????

Correct, we don’t know the background of this family. All what I see is what she did to daughter is not correct and we really don't know much about the relationship between the mother and the teenager. but... but... but... I see one point is:

As what you say: "mother may tried everything" got me wondering how could a mother got her "rebellious" teenager to stand on a street corner with a sign at last after tried with her form of discipline many times in the past? I mean its normal that teenagers ignore you if you tried everything but obey you to stand a street corner and have the reporters of newspapers to take the picture of them? It doesn't make sense to me.

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Tell you this, one of my friend regretted that he took advantage of positive reinforcement and let others do all the work so he don't have to learn anything. Now he has to work his ass off struggling to live because he don't have high school diploma, even worse he is deaf though. He wish that he had some sort of discipline so that he can act up for positive.

I can't answer to this because I didn't know anything about your friend's background how they discipline their children.

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Nowdays, I have seen too many kids taking advantage of law that disallowed school to do anything if kids don't cooperate and became rebellous because they KNEW they can't be harm. Thats a BIG SHAME!!! This has to be stopped somehow!

I already responsed CyberRed's post in my thread "Self-esteem vs low self-esteem". I would suggest you to read my post there.

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I suggest you look at the movie called "Lean on me". You will see HOW kids responds when a person (Barney Clark) came in replacing principal and change from scum highschool to beautiful high school. Know what he had on his hand? A baseball BAT, and bullhorn! He had to do negative reinforcement to turn everything around. It is BASED ON TRUE STORY!!! He did indeed almost threw out a student from school rooftop! I don't believe he will, but he did threaten. That boy ended up have HUGE respect for Barney Clark! You will understand better after watching this movie.

Yes, I would love to watch "Lean on me". I visited google to find out about them and will buy DVD this weekends and will let you know what I think of this. Morgan Freeman is my favorite actor. He act very good... Yes I read about Joe Clark's history in websites today. All what I read and got me understand. This is about drugs, volience, etc. This desciption about Joe Clark remind me of the movie "The Principal", we saw few months ago. Have you heard about this?

I have read what/How Joe Clark deal with volience and drugs students what a daughter don't have.

It's not criminal what a daughter did. There is no comparison. A mother is supposing to build her daughter's development, not tear his esteem away.

I can tell that Joe Clark show students how strong he is - no wonder why students take advantage of teachers because of their weak disciplines. I find okay how he discipline the students IN school, not OUTSIDE...

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Daughter would end up like Eric? I don't think so, because mother had done something,

I hope so

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while Eric mom and school REFUSED to do anything because of legal issues.

because of legal issue? What do you mean? Can you care to explain what exact legal they are not allow to do anything?

The parents can do SOMETHING to help/support Eric if he cries for their attention/support.
As far as I know homeschooling is legal in America. What about that?
Private school - What about that?
Look for other and better public school - what about that?

Maria · 11-30-2005, 12:04 PM

[quote=Liebling:-)))]Huh? Do you think so? I don´t.

I dont agree with using that kind of shame and humilation on a child to try & get good behavior because I can´t see how it can be a positive thing.

It came out a positive thing at the END.

Yes, it harm her health. Sure, it take her long time to forgive her mother but the problem is she will have no trust feeling toward her mother. How could she confide her feeling to her after what she did to her?

Health ? You don't know that for sure about takin' the daughter long time to forgive her mother. I believe that the daughter knows that her mother DID the right thing... just to HELP her get back to reality. Reality is not a joke. I mean this is REAL life. It ain't no fairytale like Princess and Prince livin' in a HUGE mansion. Gee

You forget quickly that a girl might lose her friends and schoolmates after learn from the newspaper... They may mock or bully her... It will lead her misbehavior more and more, also menal health, too. You know the kids could be cruel sometimes. How many of her classmates might have seen it & then continue to tease & ridicule her? ***goose pump***

That's normal. Because, that daughter has no respect for her mother/teacher in the first place. She should have listen to them in the first place and tried her best when she can - but, no she choses to HAVE HER OWN WAY. "Me, me, me" That's a

Students will mock at her. That's her fault, not her mother.

Children suffer severe emotional or psychological maltreatment including terroristing, threats, humiliation, degradation & withdraw of affection & care, also mental health, too.
Is it okay to teach chlidren to being guilt, loss self-respect & shame? To me, public humiliation is not form of discipline..

The mother in that picture show her affectionate for her daughter, because she cares and wants to see her daughter's future bright with success.

I rather to use postive reinforcement on my children.

I would love to smack mother´s grin face.. Those picture make me

with pain to know that a mother posing with proud smile because she claimed that she only doing what the best for her but daughter? Oh my dear... [\QUOTE]

Would love to smack the mother's grin face ? You can't. *chuckles* The mother have the rights to teach her daughter... that's TOUGH LOVE. You see the mother givin' her daughter a hug in that picture ? Well, the mother really cares about her daughter. She loves her daughter very much.

jazzy · 11-30-2005, 12:50 PM

Supposedly I drive past and see alike this then I would judge her/his parents, not kids. For one I don't agree with this mother. I won't do that to my child even if they did poor in school. There is a reason for it. Humilated child is worst thing, more alike child abuse to me. Years from now she will need a therapy to deal with this humilated and anger. I see her daughter's face, she is not smiling. Not good way to punish her.

11-30-2005, 01:08 PM

Hi

Wow, I never posted here because I was too busy with my life and so focused on God and bible in the other thread on this message board. I don't have time for reading other threads. Somehow, I found the time to read this thread.

The mother was so amazed because it showed me how much she loves her daughter very much and she really cares for her daughter's future. Her daughter unfortunately did not listen to her mother in the past. The mother struggled for a long time so she thought that she put her daughter to public and show the sign. In the long term, I'm sure that the daughter would say, "Mom, thank you so much and I realized what you have done to me was right." The mother wants her daughter to be on the right track because she will live here on the earth for many years and her mother wants her daughter to have enough money to support herself like food, clothes if she lives on her own - I mean if no husband to support her. It is VERY IMPORTANT for all children to OBEY their parents. Just like we must obey to God to what God wants us to be. God is the father and we are His children. God disciplines us. It is the same thing for the mother to discipline her daughter. Unfortunately, her daughter was wayyyyyyyyyyy toooooo stubborn so the mother HAD to do something like put her in the public. Yes, the mother was very brave. I praise her!!!! Because this is very very embarrassed for the daughter so this is how she LEARNED a big time!

It was NOT abused to the daughter at all. It's a "wake up".

I praise the mother for doing the right thing.

Momoftwo

Maria · 11-30-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Momoftwo

Hi

Wow, I never posted here because I was too busy with my life and so focused on God and bible in the other thread on this message board. I don't have time for reading other threads. Somehow, I found the time to read this thread.

The mother was so amazed because it showed me how much she loves her daughter very much and she really cares for her daughter's future. Her daughter unfortunately did not listen to her mother in the past. The mother struggled for a long time so she thought that she put her daughter to public and show the sign. In the long term, I'm sure that the daughter would say, "Mom, thank you so much and I realized what you have done to me was right." The mother wants her daughter to be on the right track because she will live here on the earth for many years and her mother wants her daughter to have enough money to support herself like food, clothes if she lives on her own - I mean if no husband to support her. It is VERY IMPORTANT for all children to OBEY their parents. Just like we must obey to God to what God wants us to be. God is the father and we are His children. God disciplines us. It is the same thing for the mother to discipline her daughter. Unfortunately, her daughter was wayyyyyyyyyyy toooooo stubborn so the mother HAD to do something like put her in the public. Yes, the mother was very brave. I praise her!!!! Because this is very very embarrassed for the daughter so this is how she LEARNED a big time!

It was NOT abused to the daughter at all. It's a "wake up".

I praise the mother for doing the right thing.

Momoftwo

Amen ! I totally agree with you. Remember one of the 10 Commandments it says, "Obey thy mother and father" ?

11-30-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

Amen ! I totally agree with you. Remember one of the 10 Commandments it says, "Obey thy mother and father" ?

Hi CyberRed

Yes, that's right!

Momoftwo

Maria · 11-30-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

Supposedly I drive past and see alike this then I would judge her/his parents, not kids. For one I don't agree with this mother. I won't do that to my child even if they did poor in school. There is a reason for it. Humilated child is worst thing, more alike child abuse to me. Years from now she will need a therapy to deal with this humilated and anger. I see her daughter's face, she is not smiling. Not good way to punish her.

Not me. If, I drive by to see them standin' on street corner, I would read the sign first to explain why...and, then I will know it was the daughter, not mother. The daughter admitted it, she wrote "I don't do my homework & I act up in school, so my parents are preparin' me for my future".

There were 2 things she admitted her wrong doin' against her mother and school. Whose fault was that ? The daughter.
And, even the mother admitted that she did tried to help her over and over and over... what the mother gonna do ? Grab the belt or paddle to hit her ? I don't think that will do any good, because THAT is physical abuse by hand with somethin'. That's against the law. Soo, that mother decided to put her daughter on street corner with a sign... to humiliate her to make HER to realize that her mother meant it. It is all about her FUTURE the mother cares about. That daughter have only ONE mother to depend on and the daughter CAN'T depend on mother for the rest of her life, if there's no job for her... such as bein' lazy or whateva. What if, the mother die tomorrow - what would the daughter do? How would she support herself eh ? She needs some trainin' to learn HOW to write in English, do the right math, and so forth so she is able to work by knowin' HOW to do the job right to support herself.

jazzy · 11-30-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

Not me. If, I drive by to see them standin' on street corner, I would read the sign first to explain why...and, then I will know it was the daughter, not mother. The daughter admitted it, she wrote "I don't do my homework & I act up in school, so my parents are preparin' me for my future".

There were 2 things she admitted her wrong doin' against her mother and school. Whose fault was that ? The daughter.
And, even the mother admitted that she did tried to help her over and over and over... what the mother gonna do ? Grab the belt or paddle to hit her ? I don't think that will do any good, because THAT is physical abuse by hand with somethin'. That's against the law. Soo, that mother decided to put her daughter on street corner with a sign... to humiliate her to make HER to realize that her mother meant it. It is all about her FUTURE the mother cares about. That daughter have only ONE mother to depend on and the daughter CAN'T depend on mother for the rest of her life, if there's no job for her... such as bein' lazy or whateva. What if, the mother die tomorrow - what would the daughter do? How would she support herself eh ? She needs some trainin' to learn HOW to write in English, do the right math, and so forth so she is able to work by knowin' HOW to do the job right to support herself.

It is your opinion not mine. I disagree with this, as u think it is tough love, not work this way. She will break down later in life as I have seen too many people already break. I already went thru this with my boys and I did very well without humliate them. I trained them good, it is mother who fail her daughter and think this stand on the corner will straight her up, not going to happen. should have started her , train her at very young, as I have with mine. now my boys never miss work and go to school without miss. I have seen too many parents let their kids slip away and miss school often and they ended up do same with their jobs, not showing enough responsible.

We do not know those people so we do not know for sure what reason or why she behave terrible. They may have problem at home, not at school.

Liebling:-))) · 11-30-2005, 04:59 PM

Amen, Jazzy!!!!!!

hazelkat · 11-30-2005, 05:13 PM

My sister acts like brat all the time cussing at my mom and dad but there is no problem with my house. She is the only on who acts like that my lil bro and sis are very sweet and i dont know why my sis acts like that but she does

hazelkat · 11-30-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

Not me. If, I drive by to see them standin' on street corner, I would read the sign first to explain why...and, then I will know it was the daughter, not mother. The daughter admitted it, she wrote "I don't do my homework & I act up in school, so my parents are preparin' me for my future".

There were 2 things she admitted her wrong doin' against her mother and school. Whose fault was that ? The daughter.
And, even the mother admitted that she did tried to help her over and over and over... what the mother gonna do ? Grab the belt or paddle to hit her ? I don't think that will do any good, because THAT is physical abuse by hand with somethin'. That's against the law.

thats just right i dont think you should ever take a child and do that. The mother is responisble for the child and doing that is just plain stupid.

there is more than one way to disapline a child like take what they value like the stupid tv away.

and here in cali if you live in lancaster or at edwards you are allowed to spank the child how ever old they are with your hand but nothin else. you could put the child in the corner or some thing thats just stupid way to discipline

Liebling:-))) · 11-30-2005, 05:21 PM

Your post here make no sense.

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

It came out a positive thing at the END.

No humiliation is a poor tool. It´s NEGATIVE THING what a mother did to her daughter. It doesnt give her lesson but teach her into rebellion.

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Health ? You don't know that for sure about takin' the daughter long time to forgive her mother. I believe that the daughter knows that her mother DID the right thing... just to HELP her get back to reality. Reality is not a joke. I mean this is REAL life. It ain't no fairytale like Princess and Prince livin' in a HUGE mansion. Gee

Huh? For your information, I know what I´m saying. I also know how to raise my children without harsh punishment and humilate them, too.

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That's normal. Because, that daughter has no respect for her mother/teacher in the first place. She should have listen to them in the first place and tried her best when she can - but, no she choses to HAVE HER OWN WAY. "Me, me, me" That's a

Students will mock at her. That's her fault, not her mother.

You think bullied is normal?

wow. I´m speechless.

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The mother in that picture show her affectionate for her daughter, because she cares and wants to see her daughter's future bright with success.

Affectionate? ***speechless*** Have you a good look at picture of a daughter´s impression? A mother only doing to show off how good she is and not care about her daughter´s feeling. That picture is the best proof.

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Would love to smack the mother's grin face ? You can't. *chuckles* The mother have the rights to teach her daughter... that's TOUGH LOVE. You see the mother givin' her daughter a hug in that picture ? Well, the mother really cares about her daughter. She loves her daughter very much.

Noooooooooo I really love to hit mother´s grin face with bat.... Tough love? Noooooo its an abuse and cruel what she did to her daughter... Have you see the picture - a daughter tried to keep away from her mother and don´t want to look at her mother... a mother don´t care but give her hug to show off how she did it successful!!!! A mother only think herself!

Maria · 11-30-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Your post here make no sense.

Noooooooooo I really love to hit mother´s grin face with bat.... Tough love? Noooooo its an abuse and cruel what she did to her daughter... Have you see the picture - a daughter tried to keep away from her mother and don´t want to look at her mother... a mother don´t care but give her hug to show off how she did it successful!!!! A mother only think herself!

That's your opinion, but I have to say that I disagree with you. I agree with the mother. She did a great job !

11-30-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

That's your opinion, but I have to say that I disagree with you. I agree with the mother. She did a great job !

I am here and please don't fight with me, and I am not posting no more. After reading all those posts, it drove me crazy. I agree with the mother too, and CyberRed and Reba..

I think the mother did the right thing and she did a good job. And I don't know why you want to hit her face with a bat. She was there and showing her how tough the world would be, and trying to teach her the education is good, the respect and the responsbilites, the challenges and so on. This mother want the best for her daughter. If the mother didn't do anything, that will make her look bad. But the mother was there, and showing her daughter and she is right, she is trying her best to show her daughter how to grow up in good manners with good respects, responsbilities, and so on. This teenager was a brat, spoiled brat and wanted to play more instead of study more and will involed in the bad crowd or having a hard life with low life job. The mother had to fight with her and get her to realize and get her to open up and go head to get a better educations and better life with a good job. I won't be surprised if this teen girl become a doctor after she get out from college, and her mother will getting a good reward from her daughter.

I was like the teenager when I was growing up. I failed a lot of classes and my mom told me to get out the house or get a job when I was 16 years old. No car, no movies, no allowance and no nothing or eat anything in under my mom's roof. My mom yelled and told me if you want to eat my food, you pay me, if you want to drive, you pay me for gas and insurance, if you want to go out to movie, how you go in and pay for yourself, if you want to eat in school, how you pay for it, there are many things that I never realized that. Getting a good education mean getting a good job in the future. That same for college too. My mom had to go hell with me and slapped my face for calling her names and everything and pushed me out the house. I remembered that she told me, you brought home bad grade, then pack your stuffs and get out the house. I was rebel and didn't care for her, she got me to the wall and yelled at me, and said, "I paid for this house, I paid for your hospital bills, I paid for everything for you, and don't realize how hard it is going to be. You better bring your grade up, you will have something or if not, you won't get NOTHING." I was like

Remember being teenager is not easy to work with. I realized that my mom wanted me to learn and open my eyes and see what the world is like. It is not easy. But I love my mom and my mom love me, but we fought like 2 hissy cats and scratching each other. And I realized that my mom won the battle and she was right about everything and I had to realized that making a good grades and I got better job, and staying out the trouble that i was not suppose to be in. My mom wanted me to have the best things for me (and my siblings too). I owe my mom for everything. She is the best, but she is tough but she know that she is always right. Now, we are the best buddies forever.

If my son, Kyler, is like that teen girl, I would go thru the same thing what my mom have taught me. I would yell at him and go hell with him. My husband would do the same thing, but one thing, my husband grew up in the Army and he know what his father would do to my husband while growing up, his father would yell, give commands, and make him run or sit up 100 times. Mostly like boot camp. But it worked for him. If Kyler become a lazy or stubborn in school or not learning, there are options that we will tell him what to do. If he won't bring home with good grade or hang out in the wrong crowds or something, I will send him to the boot camp or someplace. If refuse, then he is out of my house. Let him learn what is like to live on his own. Someday he would crawl back and say "Mommy, I am sorry, I will do better this time." I know I am right and my mother is right.

I agreed with CyberRed and Reba...

I guess people have different ways of parenting to their kids. This mother and teenager are almost like what I have grew up with my mom.

IslandGal · 11-30-2005, 08:36 PM

I hadn't read all of these posts until today. Wow, what a debate! I must say I agree with CyberRed, Reba, diehardbiker, Momoftwo and others who said the mother did what she thought was the best for her daughter. I am sure it was hard for the mother to make her daughter to stand on a street corner with that sign but in the end she has helped her daughter to improve.

jazzy · 11-30-2005, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMomma

I am here and please don't fight with me, and I am not posting no more. After reading all those posts, it drove me crazy. I agree with the mother too, and CyberRed and Reba..

I think the mother did the right thing and she did a good job. And I don't know why you want to hit her face with a bat. She was there and showing her how tough the world would be, and trying to teach her the education is good, the respect and the responsbilites, the challenges and so on. This mother want the best for her daughter. If the mother didn't do anything, that will make her look bad. But the mother was there, and showing her daughter and she is right, she is trying her best to show her daughter how to grow up in good manners with good respects, responsbilities, and so on. This teenager was a brat, spoiled brat and wanted to play more instead of study more and will involed in the bad crowd or having a hard life with low life job. The mother had to fight with her and get her to realize and get her to open up and go head to get a better educations and better life with a good job. I won't be surprised if this teen girl become a doctor after she get out from college, and her mother will getting a good reward from her daughter.

I was like the teenager when I was growing up. I failed a lot of classes and my mom told me to get out the house or get a job when I was 16 years old. No car, no movies, no allowance and no nothing or eat anything in under my mom's roof. My mom yelled and told me if you want to eat my food, you pay me, if you want to drive, you pay me for gas and insurance, if you want to go out to movie, how you go in and pay for yourself, if you want to eat in school, how you pay for it, there are many things that I never realized that. Getting a good education mean getting a good job in the future. That same for college too. My mom had to go hell with me and slapped my face for calling her names and everything and pushed me out the house. I remembered that she told me, you brought home bad grade, then pack your stuffs and get out the house. I was rebel and didn't care for her, she got me to the wall and yelled at me, and said, "I paid for this house, I paid for your hospital bills, I paid for everything for you, and don't realize how hard it is going to be. You better bring your grade up, you will have something or if not, you won't get NOTHING." I was like

Remember being teenager is not easy to work with. I realized that my mom wanted me to learn and open my eyes and see what the world is like. It is not easy. But I love my mom and my mom love me, but we fought like 2 hissy cats and scratching each other. And I realized that my mom won the battle and she was right about everything and I had to realized that making a good grades and I got better job, and staying out the trouble that i was not suppose to be in. My mom wanted me to have the best things for me (and my siblings too). I owe my mom for everything. She is the best, but she is tough but she know that she is always right. Now, we are the best buddies forever.

If my son, Kyler, is like that teen girl, I would go thru the same thing what my mom have taught me. I would yell at him and go hell with him. My husband would do the same thing, but one thing, my husband grew up in the Army and he know what his father would do to my husband while growing up, his father would yell, give commands, and make him run or sit up 100 times. Mostly like boot camp. But it worked for him. If Kyler become a lazy or stubborn in school or not learning, there are options that we will tell him what to do. If he won't bring home with good grade or hang out in the wrong crowds or something, I will send him to the boot camp or someplace. If refuse, then he is out of my house. Let him learn what is like to live on his own. Someday he would crawl back and say "Mommy, I am sorry, I will do better this time." I know I am right and my mother is right.

I agreed with CyberRed and Reba...

I guess people have different ways of parenting to their kids. This mother and teenager are almost like what I have grew up with my mom.

I am sorry but I disagree with your mom when she told u get out of the house or get a job. I won't let my kids get job till after they graduated from high school. I unds u were so hard with your mom, so was everyone else I knew. not just girls, boys too. My husband was wild during teen age too and his parents were very hard on him also but they don't put him on the corner to tell whole world. it is none of our business what is going on in thier home. Her mom want rest of the world about her daughter. It is plain stupid for her to tell whole world about her own daughter. I am disgusting with her decision to show us about her. It is very personal and private, problem is between her and daughter not rest of world , we do not need to know about that.

jazzy · 11-30-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

That's your opinion, but I have to say that I disagree with you. I agree with the mother. She did a great job !

How do u know she did a great job? Is she getting straight A's? I doubt it.

Maria · 11-30-2005, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

How do u know she did a great job? Is she getting straight A's? I doubt it.

I am talkin' about the mother's discipline. She did a great job!

jazzy · 11-30-2005, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hazelkat

My sister acts like brat all the time cussing at my mom and dad but there is no problem with my house. She is the only on who acts like that my lil bro and sis are very sweet and i dont know why my sis acts like that but she does

Maybe she did not get enough attention she needs from her parents.

jazzy · 11-30-2005, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

I am talkin' about the mother's discipline. She did a great job!

I don't think so.

Maria · 11-30-2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

I don't think so.

That's your point of view.

jazzy · 11-30-2005, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

That's your point of view.

I respect yours.

11-30-2005, 12:04 PM	#152 (permalink)
Maria My love and I Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 8,762	[quote=Liebling:-)))]Huh? Do you think so? I don´t. I dont agree with using that kind of shame and humilation on a child to try & get good behavior because I can´t see how it can be a positive thing. It came out a positive thing at the END. Yes, it harm her health. Sure, it take her long time to forgive her mother but the problem is she will have no trust feeling toward her mother. How could she confide her feeling to her after what she did to her? Health ? You don't know that for sure about takin' the daughter long time to forgive her mother. I believe that the daughter knows that her mother DID the right thing... just to HELP her get back to reality. Reality is not a joke. I mean this is REAL life. It ain't no fairytale like Princess and Prince livin' in a HUGE mansion. Gee You forget quickly that a girl might lose her friends and schoolmates after learn from the newspaper... They may mock or bully her... It will lead her misbehavior more and more, also menal health, too. You know the kids could be cruel sometimes. How many of her classmates might have seen it & then continue to tease & ridicule her? *goose pump* That's normal. Because, that daughter has no respect for her mother/teacher in the first place. She should have listen to them in the first place and tried her best when she can - but, no she choses to HAVE HER OWN WAY. "Me, me, me" That's a Students will mock at her. That's her fault, not her mother. Children suffer severe emotional or psychological maltreatment including terroristing, threats, humiliation, degradation & withdraw of affection & care, also mental health, too. Is it okay to teach chlidren to being guilt, loss self-respect & shame? To me, public humiliation is not form of discipline.. The mother in that picture show her affectionate for her daughter, because she cares and wants to see her daughter's future bright with success. I rather to use postive reinforcement on my children. I would love to smack mother´s grin face.. Those picture make me with pain to know that a mother posing with proud smile because she claimed that she only doing what the best for her but daughter? Oh my dear... [\QUOTE] Would love to smack the mother's grin face ? You can't. chuckles The mother have the rights to teach her daughter... that's TOUGH LOVE. You see the mother givin' her daughter a hug in that picture ? Well, the mother really cares about her daughter. She loves her daughter very much. Last edited by Maria; 11-30-2005 at 12:29 PM.

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11-30-2005, 12:50 PM	#153 (permalink)
jazzy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,196	Supposedly I drive past and see alike this then I would judge her/his parents, not kids. For one I don't agree with this mother. I won't do that to my child even if they did poor in school. There is a reason for it. Humilated child is worst thing, more alike child abuse to me. Years from now she will need a therapy to deal with this humilated and anger. I see her daughter's face, she is not smiling. Not good way to punish her.

11-30-2005, 01:08 PM	#154 (permalink)
Momoftwo Guest Posts: n/a	Hi Wow, I never posted here because I was too busy with my life and so focused on God and bible in the other thread on this message board. I don't have time for reading other threads. Somehow, I found the time to read this thread. The mother was so amazed because it showed me how much she loves her daughter very much and she really cares for her daughter's future. Her daughter unfortunately did not listen to her mother in the past. The mother struggled for a long time so she thought that she put her daughter to public and show the sign. In the long term, I'm sure that the daughter would say, "Mom, thank you so much and I realized what you have done to me was right." The mother wants her daughter to be on the right track because she will live here on the earth for many years and her mother wants her daughter to have enough money to support herself like food, clothes if she lives on her own - I mean if no husband to support her. It is VERY IMPORTANT for all children to OBEY their parents. Just like we must obey to God to what God wants us to be. God is the father and we are His children. God disciplines us. It is the same thing for the mother to discipline her daughter. Unfortunately, her daughter was wayyyyyyyyyyy toooooo stubborn so the mother HAD to do something like put her in the public. Yes, the mother was very brave. I praise her!!!! Because this is very very embarrassed for the daughter so this is how she LEARNED a big time! It was NOT abused to the daughter at all. It's a "wake up". I praise the mother for doing the right thing. Momoftwo

11-30-2005, 05:13 PM	#160 (permalink)
hazelkat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5	My sister acts like brat all the time cussing at my mom and dad but there is no problem with my house. She is the only on who acts like that my lil bro and sis are very sweet and i dont know why my sis acts like that but she does

11-30-2005, 08:36 PM	#165 (permalink)
IslandGal Hi ya! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 4,323	I hadn't read all of these posts until today. Wow, what a debate! I must say I agree with CyberRed, Reba, diehardbiker, Momoftwo and others who said the mother did what she thought was the best for her daughter. I am sure it was hard for the mother to make her daughter to stand on a street corner with that sign but in the end she has helped her daughter to improve.