Hair-cutting

Cheri · 09-12-2005, 11:23 AM

How would you feel if a baby-sitter cuts your child's hair without your permission? Would you thanked the sitter for the surprise or would you be upset at the fact that she didn't ask for your permission? Please discuss.

Oakley_04 · 09-12-2005, 11:27 AM

I would be really upset if babysitter did without my permission, Babysitter repsobsile is to make sure the child is breathing and alive not to snip snip hair

TweetyBird · 09-12-2005, 11:28 AM

yea i will get upset abt that.. cuz of my kids are not their .. they are mine... i has a right upset or mad at babysitter..

moonflower · 09-12-2005, 11:29 AM

i will get upset if baby sitter had cut my child hair

i will let them know do NOT cut my child hair only i can thank you

only take care of the child not the hair

diehardbiker · 09-12-2005, 11:38 AM

I think I will have mushroom cloud right above my head!

And Said "Your FIRED!"

TweetyBird · 09-12-2005, 11:41 AM

is something happen to ur kids? cheri

Cheri · 09-12-2005, 11:43 AM

Thank you all for your answers

Actutally this had happened to my youngest son,

The sitter's daughter gave my son a hair cut which she shaved it off and My step-mother went over to visited my son to see if he needed anything, She told me about it in Reno. I end up in tears at the fact that the sitter never asked me for permission to allowing to give my son a haircut. I felt that I'm his mother and it's my duty to give my own son a hair cut or take him some place to get one. I've told her how I felt when I arrived home, She states that his front banks were covering his eyes, But that doesn't give her any right to go ahead and give him a hair cut. I've told her after the third time that her daughter had cut his hair before that I would be the one cutting his hair and I did told her please do not let her daughter cut his hair. But did she listen? I am not allowing her to watch him again anymore.

diehardbiker · 09-12-2005, 11:48 AM

Your feelings are valid, and your thoughts were clear. Sorry to hear that this had happened to you.

Sitter really have no excuse for this stupidity, IMHO!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheri

Thank you all for your answers

Actutally this had happened to my youngest son,

The sitter's daughter gave my son a hair cut which she shaved it off and My step-mother went over to visited my son to see if he needed anything, She told me about it in Reno. I end up in tears at the fact that the sitter never asked me for permission to allowing to give my son a haircut. I felt that I'm his mother and it's my duty to give my own son a hair cut or take him some place to get one. I've told her how I felt when I arrived home, She states that his front banks were covering his eyes, But that doesn't give her any right to go ahead and give him a hair cut. I've told her after the third time that her daughter had cut his hair before that I would be the one cutting his hair and I did told her please do not let her daughter cut his hair. But did she listen? I am not allowing her to watch him again anymore.

TweetyBird · 09-12-2005, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheri

Thank you all for your answers

Actutally this had happened to my youngest son,

The sitter's daughter gave my son a hair cut which she shaved it off and My step-mother went over to visited my son to see if he needed anything, She told me about it in Reno. I end up in tears at the fact that the sitter never asked me for permission to allowing to give my son a haircut. I felt that I'm his mother and it's my duty to give my own son a hair cut or take him some place to get one. I've told her how I felt when I arrived home, She states that his front banks were covering his eyes, But that doesn't give her any right to go ahead and give him a hair cut. I've told her after the third time that her daughter had cut his hair before that I would be the one cutting his hair and I did told her please do not let her daughter cut his hair. But did she listen? I am not allowing her to watch him again anymore.

oh man! i cant believe that babysitter did it.. that is very wrong of her!!!!geez...

SherryCherish · 09-12-2005, 12:47 PM

i would be mad if they done to my kids unless ask me permission and what kind cut. etc.

HOW ABOUT THIS.....

well, my bf has a daughter. but daughter's hair alots of bad splits and roots. Need cut alike about 3 inches off , beside our families agree. We consider to get her haircut, will daughter's real mom get upset? Since not take care of her hair? Talking to her real mom about it is - (out of option!) Any other suggestion? Should we go ahead ourselves?

Cheri · 09-12-2005, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SherryCherish

well, my bf has a daughter. but daughter's hair alots of bad splits and roots. Need cut alike about 3 inches off , beside our families agree. We consider to get her haircut, will daughter's real mom get upset? Since not take care of her hair? Talking to her real mom about it is - (out of option!) Any other suggestion? Should we go ahead ourselves?

I would suggest this to her mother, and how the family sees that the daughter really needs a hair cut. It doesn't hurt to ask, But I wouldn't do it behind her back. I don't think the mother knew that she has some spilt ends, If you suggested it to her that you and your boyfriend are willing to pay to get the daughter's hair done. I'm sure she wouldn't mind would she?

09-12-2005, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SherryCherish

i would be mad if they done to my kids unless ask me permission and what kind cut. etc.

HOW ABOUT THIS.....

well, my bf has a daughter. but daughter's hair alots of bad splits and roots. Need cut alike about 3 inches off , beside our families agree. We consider to get her haircut, will daughter's real mom get upset? Since not take care of her hair? Talking to her real mom about it is - (out of option!) Any other suggestion? Should we go ahead ourselves?

SherryCherish,

Take a good look at your post. You stated you would be mad if they did that to your kids unless they asked you for your permission and what kind of cut. However, you just contradicted yourself by stating the different opinion by considering to cut off your boyfriend's child's hair. Do you think the mother would be just as mad if you went ahead and "beautified" her"?

SherryCherish · 09-12-2005, 05:00 PM

cookie monster, i do understand ur point. My boyfriend's daughter never get haircut, she always complain her forehead hair get long and always into her eyes. Good enough she cutted herself real short on forehead cuz her mother don't seem cares. Even her mom also not even care if daughter need a right clothes. She always end up small clothes, alike she have a hard time to take short off and her shirt look like shrink. We did give the clothes to them, they seem not let her wear them. So we decide to use clothes at our house only. Since her mother has child supports and not pay her anything new. The reason, we want daughter have good hygiene and grooming. We want a good take care of her. The point, if she take care of daughter, we wouldn't do anything. We want to see daughter have a good life.

talking to her mother? she don't cooperate and don't care. Only cares when shes gone on weekend so mother have her self time as party. That why i said "out of option".

Angel · 09-12-2005, 05:01 PM

Oh yes I would have been mad too and fired her if she ever did that without my permission...Babysitters should always ask the parents for their premission first being going ahead and do it...

I also agree with Cheri and CookieMonster, it would be best to ask the mother first before getting the girl a haircut!

Angel · 09-12-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SherryCherish

cookie monster, i do understand ur point. My boyfriend's daughter never get haircut, she always complain her forehead hair get long and always into her eyes. Good enough she cutted herself real short on forehead cuz her mother don't seem cares. Even her mom also not even care if daughter need a right clothes. She always end up small clothes, alike she have a hard time to take short off and her shirt look like shrink. We did give the clothes to them, they seem not let her wear them. So we decide to use clothes at our house only. Since her mother has child supports and not pay her anything new. The reason, we want daughter have good hygiene and grooming. We want a good take care of her. The point, if she take care of daughter, we wouldn't do anything. We want to see daughter have a good life.

talking to her mother? she don't cooperate and don't care. Only cares when shes gone on weekend so mother have her self time as party. That why i said "out of option".

Wow, sounds like the mother is not taking a very good care of her daug, if that the case I don't see any harm of going ahead and do it, I mean the mother doesn't seem to care enough to take care of the problem

TweetyBird · 09-12-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I would suggest this to her mother, and how the family sees that the daughter really needs a hair cut. It doesn't hurt to ask, But I wouldn't do it behind her back. I don't think the mother knew that she has some spilt ends, If you suggested it to her that you and your boyfriend are willing to pay to get the daughter's hair done. I'm sure she wouldn't mind would she?

yea true i agree with u... geez!

GalaxyAngel · 09-12-2005, 07:25 PM

Ouch!,

Isn't right thing babysitter have no rights invade your child haircut without constant permission first...

Have you done speak out w/ babysitter about your son's hair ? What babysitter says ?

Geez, If I were you... I would flip my mind off and upset more... and will dare speak out w/person who did haircut my child's hair... which have no rights invade my child's property without parent' constant first!

Peachy Lady · 09-12-2005, 08:28 PM

Cheri, your sitter should have asked you first if it's alright to have your son's hair cut. I'm sure she was only doing it out of good intention, but she needed to realize that you are the MOTHER, first of all....who decides everything about your sons. I'm so sorry she went ahead and cut his hair without even asking you first. I wouldn't let anyone cut my children's hair either. My husband's mother asked me first if it's alright to trim the kids front hairband and since she does it much better job than I could, I told her she could do it anytime she sees that they needed it. She enjoys doing that. If she does it without my permission, I would be very upset, like you, Cheri. I wouldn't think of cutting my friend or my brother's kids hair without asking their parents first.

sr171soars · 09-12-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

I think I will have mushroom cloud right above my head!

And Said "Your FIRED!"

Ditto...exactly my sentiments...

There are certain things that a babysitter doesn't do and this definitely crossed the line.

Oh man where has common sense gone...seems like too many people have totally lost it.

Reba · 09-12-2005, 09:25 PM

It was totally inappropriate for the babysitter to cut the child's hair without permission. That would upset me as a mother. I don't even cut my grandsons' hair without permission from my daughter.

PurrMeow · 09-13-2005, 12:23 AM

For example if I had a babysit for my son, and his babysit cut his hair without my knowledge then I would be pissed off. I wouldn't allow any of my son's babysitter to cut any of his hair without my permission.. I still wouldn't allow any of his babysitter. But for recently he had a babysitter to watch him while I was away I had no problems.. But for future, I would not and I would tell the babysitter to not cut any of his hairs or nails by his fingers or toes or anything. Because one time when I was senior and my family especially one of my sisters and my brother stayed at home while we were away and did not know that my sister was trying to give my youngest brother a whiskey which I was lucky to found in my sister's bag and it was empty. I had to let my parents cuz my brother was too young at the time when my sister babysitted him. Lucky that my brother did not drink but my parents kicked my sister out for that. It can be too difficult time to trust anyone.

DeafSCUBA98 · 09-13-2005, 12:29 AM

if that ever happen to me i would be

and say YOU'RE FIRED FIRED FIRED FIRED (quote from cat in the hat movie)

Liebling:-))) · 09-13-2005, 04:59 AM

Oh dear, I can understand how you feel, Cheri

Yes, I'm agree that your sitter should ask you first because you are a mother.

I hope you don't mind me for open my opinion on your thread which it relate on "without ask mother for permission first".

Is it first time? If yes, I'm sure that she doesn't mean out of purposely to upset you but want to take care of your children well for you. I know what she doing painly wrong. I'm sure that she or her mother learn their lessons for not do that again in the future. It would be different story if there're SECOND time.

This thread remind me of my MIL.

I would like to give you few examples of many about my MIL.

1. my MIL ordered everything for Danny's christening without ask us first that's time I JUST had Danny in the hospitail. She beleived that Danny should go direct to have christening right way after hospitail to protect "sinn". I told her that we would not do that until we feel ready........ She is sour that we let Danny christening when he was 4 months old.

2. We left one year old Danny to his grandparent for the weekends. MIL got Danny to hairstylist to trim his hair without let us know. We told her in firm way to not do that again in the future unless get our permission first because we are the parents. She said that Danny is also her grandson, too and want to see his hair clean and neat. I asked her to respect us if we as parents have different view as her.

3. my MIL kept on tell us to buy Danny's first shoes before he began walk. I'm disagreed to this because I beleive to have Danny to wear his first shoe AFTER his FIRST walking, not training him with shoe to walk. Guess what, she ignored us to buy a first shoe for Danny and trained him to walk with shoes that's time he was crawler.

4. She ignored our rules and do what she wants with our son which it's last and enough for us after many times. (We planned before I had Danny that she want to look after Danny while I go back to work). I decided to have Danny at Child Minder with the recommend from Children Protection Service instead of trust MIL to watch Danny. It wakes my MIL up and respect us more and more after had my 2nd child.

Those 4 example points, I gave you is disrespectful and ignorant which it's different with your situation. I'm sure that the sitter realize that she made her first mistake to let her daughter to do your son's hair without ask you first. I would suggest you calm down and make peace with them and also forgive their first mistakes and have a good talk with them and also make arrange with them before you go away again when you know that she is good sitter in the past. Remember that every make mistakes.

Cheri · 09-13-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling

Is it first time? If yes, I'm sure that she doesn't mean out of purposely to upset you but want to take care of your children well for you. I know what she doing painly wrong. I'm sure that she or her mother learn their lessons for not do that again in the future. It would be different story if there're SECOND time

Hon, I already point out in my post that this is the third time that I've told her not to have my son's hair cut and all those three times my son had his hair shaved off. Did it stop after the third time? No, She let her daughter cut my son's hair again. Now that is four times she allowing that to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheri

I've told her after the third time that her daughter had cut his hair before that I would be the one cutting his hair and I did told her please do not let her daughter cut his hair. But did she listen? I am not allowing her to watch him again anymore.

It shows that she decide to ignored my requested. Enough is enough, She is done. Just because she's a sitter that doesn't give her any rights to do whatever she wishes to my son. I pay her to take care of my son, not giving him special hair cuts.

Liebling:-))) · 09-13-2005, 08:15 AM

Occchh I didn't pay the attention on your post over "THIRD" time... It's enough now... It's logically that you are upset because it's not first time.

I would not say anything in my first post after read your post over "THIRD" time... I don't blame you... That's disrespectful and ignorant what she did with you... Forget my first post..... Liebling

Cheri or perhap better: Liebling

Cheri

Cheri · 09-13-2005, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Occchh I didn't pay the attention on your post over "THIRD" time... It's enough now... It's logically that you are upset because it's not first time.

I would not say anything in my first post after read your post over "THIRD" time... I don't blame you... That's disrespectful and ignorant what she did with you... Forget my first post..... Liebling

Cheri or perhap better: Liebling

Cheri

It's ok sweetie, to be honest here If it was the first time she ever gave him a hair cut, I am a forgiving person and I would give her a chance at babysitting. But, four times?

Tousi · 09-13-2005, 09:12 AM

I would take my weedwhacker to the sitter's hair.

09-12-2005, 11:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cheri Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,074	Hair-cutting How would you feel if a baby-sitter cuts your child's hair without your permission? Would you thanked the sitter for the surprise or would you be upset at the fact that she didn't ask for your permission? Please discuss. __________________

09-12-2005, 11:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
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09-12-2005, 11:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
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09-12-2005, 11:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Oakley_04 Nozobo's undie Boi Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Colorful Colorado Posts: 1,192	I would be really upset if babysitter did without my permission, Babysitter repsobsile is to make sure the child is breathing and alive not to snip snip hair

09-12-2005, 11:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
Cheri Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,074	Thank you all for your answers Actutally this had happened to my youngest son, The sitter's daughter gave my son a hair cut which she shaved it off and My step-mother went over to visited my son to see if he needed anything, She told me about it in Reno. I end up in tears at the fact that the sitter never asked me for permission to allowing to give my son a haircut. I felt that I'm his mother and it's my duty to give my own son a hair cut or take him some place to get one. I've told her how I felt when I arrived home, She states that his front banks were covering his eyes, But that doesn't give her any right to go ahead and give him a hair cut. I've told her after the third time that her daughter had cut his hair before that I would be the one cutting his hair and I did told her please do not let her daughter cut his hair. But did she listen? I am not allowing her to watch him again anymore. __________________

09-12-2005, 12:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
SherryCherish "Can't Hear but Can See" Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 4,549	i would be mad if they done to my kids unless ask me permission and what kind cut. etc. HOW ABOUT THIS..... well, my bf has a daughter. but daughter's hair alots of bad splits and roots. Need cut alike about 3 inches off , beside our families agree. We consider to get her haircut, will daughter's real mom get upset? Since not take care of her hair? Talking to her real mom about it is - (out of option!) Any other suggestion? Should we go ahead ourselves?

09-12-2005, 05:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
SherryCherish "Can't Hear but Can See" Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 4,549	cookie monster, i do understand ur point. My boyfriend's daughter never get haircut, she always complain her forehead hair get long and always into her eyes. Good enough she cutted herself real short on forehead cuz her mother don't seem cares. Even her mom also not even care if daughter need a right clothes. She always end up small clothes, alike she have a hard time to take short off and her shirt look like shrink. We did give the clothes to them, they seem not let her wear them. So we decide to use clothes at our house only. Since her mother has child supports and not pay her anything new. The reason, we want daughter have good hygiene and grooming. We want a good take care of her. The point, if she take care of daughter, we wouldn't do anything. We want to see daughter have a good life. talking to her mother? she don't cooperate and don't care. Only cares when shes gone on weekend so mother have her self time as party. That why i said "out of option".

09-12-2005, 05:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
Angel ♥"Concrete Angel"♥ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19,088	Oh yes I would have been mad too and fired her if she ever did that without my permission...Babysitters should always ask the parents for their premission first being going ahead and do it... I also agree with Cheri and CookieMonster, it would be best to ask the mother first before getting the girl a haircut! __________________ "When we do the best we can, we never know what miracle is brought in our life, OR in the life of another." ~ Helen Keller

09-12-2005, 07:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
GalaxyAngel That's me! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Alberta,Canada Posts: 13,542	Ouch!, Isn't right thing babysitter have no rights invade your child haircut without constant permission first... Have you done speak out w/ babysitter about your son's hair ? What babysitter says ? Geez, If I were you... I would flip my mind off and upset more... and will dare speak out w/person who did haircut my child's hair... which have no rights invade my child's property without parent' constant first! __________________ Parent's proud our children.

09-12-2005, 08:28 PM	#18 (permalink)
Peachy Lady Not from Georgia. Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,112	Cheri, your sitter should have asked you first if it's alright to have your son's hair cut. I'm sure she was only doing it out of good intention, but she needed to realize that you are the MOTHER, first of all....who decides everything about your sons. I'm so sorry she went ahead and cut his hair without even asking you first. I wouldn't let anyone cut my children's hair either. My husband's mother asked me first if it's alright to trim the kids front hairband and since she does it much better job than I could, I told her she could do it anytime she sees that they needed it. She enjoys doing that. If she does it without my permission, I would be very upset, like you, Cheri. I wouldn't think of cutting my friend or my brother's kids hair without asking their parents first.

09-12-2005, 09:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 17,287	It was totally inappropriate for the babysitter to cut the child's hair without permission. That would upset me as a mother. I don't even cut my grandsons' hair without permission from my daughter.

09-13-2005, 12:23 AM	#21 (permalink)
PurrMeow Have fun~ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rose Posts: 2,395	For example if I had a babysit for my son, and his babysit cut his hair without my knowledge then I would be pissed off. I wouldn't allow any of my son's babysitter to cut any of his hair without my permission.. I still wouldn't allow any of his babysitter. But for recently he had a babysitter to watch him while I was away I had no problems.. But for future, I would not and I would tell the babysitter to not cut any of his hairs or nails by his fingers or toes or anything. Because one time when I was senior and my family especially one of my sisters and my brother stayed at home while we were away and did not know that my sister was trying to give my youngest brother a whiskey which I was lucky to found in my sister's bag and it was empty. I had to let my parents cuz my brother was too young at the time when my sister babysitted him. Lucky that my brother did not drink but my parents kicked my sister out for that. It can be too difficult time to trust anyone.

09-13-2005, 12:29 AM	#22 (permalink)
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09-13-2005, 04:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) My 3 darling princesses Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 27,053	Oh dear, I can understand how you feel, Cheri Yes, I'm agree that your sitter should ask you first because you are a mother. I hope you don't mind me for open my opinion on your thread which it relate on "without ask mother for permission first". Is it first time? If yes, I'm sure that she doesn't mean out of purposely to upset you but want to take care of your children well for you. I know what she doing painly wrong. I'm sure that she or her mother learn their lessons for not do that again in the future. It would be different story if there're SECOND time. This thread remind me of my MIL. I would like to give you few examples of many about my MIL. 1. my MIL ordered everything for Danny's christening without ask us first that's time I JUST had Danny in the hospitail. She beleived that Danny should go direct to have christening right way after hospitail to protect "sinn". I told her that we would not do that until we feel ready........ She is sour that we let Danny christening when he was 4 months old. 2. We left one year old Danny to his grandparent for the weekends. MIL got Danny to hairstylist to trim his hair without let us know. We told her in firm way to not do that again in the future unless get our permission first because we are the parents. She said that Danny is also her grandson, too and want to see his hair clean and neat. I asked her to respect us if we as parents have different view as her. 3. my MIL kept on tell us to buy Danny's first shoes before he began walk. I'm disagreed to this because I beleive to have Danny to wear his first shoe AFTER his FIRST walking, not training him with shoe to walk. Guess what, she ignored us to buy a first shoe for Danny and trained him to walk with shoes that's time he was crawler. 4. She ignored our rules and do what she wants with our son which it's last and enough for us after many times. (We planned before I had Danny that she want to look after Danny while I go back to work). I decided to have Danny at Child Minder with the recommend from Children Protection Service instead of trust MIL to watch Danny. It wakes my MIL up and respect us more and more after had my 2nd child. Those 4 example points, I gave you is disrespectful and ignorant which it's different with your situation. I'm sure that the sitter realize that she made her first mistake to let her daughter to do your son's hair without ask you first. I would suggest you calm down and make peace with them and also forgive their first mistakes and have a good talk with them and also make arrange with them before you go away again when you know that she is good sitter in the past. Remember that every make mistakes. __________________

09-13-2005, 08:15 AM	#25 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) My 3 darling princesses Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 27,053	Occchh I didn't pay the attention on your post over "THIRD" time... It's enough now... It's logically that you are upset because it's not first time. I would not say anything in my first post after read your post over "THIRD" time... I don't blame you... That's disrespectful and ignorant what she did with you... Forget my first post..... Liebling Cheri or perhap better: Liebling Cheri __________________

09-13-2005, 09:12 AM	#27 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,249	I would take my weedwhacker to the sitter's hair.