Newbie, lots of questions - Page 2

CSign · 04-21-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Anij

Wirelessly posted (Blackberry Bold )

Agreed.
DD, EI typically has individuals interacting in a positive, fun way with the infants/child playing games etc while also working on language (associating signs with objects etc) as well as helping parents learn how to do the same daily.

It is not the "speech therapy" that many of us had in school 20years ago.

For the most part PROPER EI should be a positive experience both for the child and family - certainly not a "stressful" one.

And yes, time matters. The sooner EI starts the better language foundation is built. Monthes do matter - soon is always the better.

I think part of the challenge is that many people are going off what they experienced 20, 30+ years ago. Things are very different now.

CSign · 04-21-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

Csign, Agreed most likely 95%. BUT, and this is a huge BUT does therapy therapy therapy at exact second of dx REALLY make a giant difference vs. waiting a few months?
Demanding that a baby/little kid be put into therapy INSTANTLY, and that it become a part of their regular every day lives really does pathologize babyhood. It's almost like the parents who demand that their baby be put into Jr Kumon or who have syllabuses for playtime... There is therapy that helps kids aquire an additional skill or indepedance, and then there's "GOTTA CATCH UP ASAP, otherwise the kid will end up being one of those ASL card people.

I haven't read anywhere about people recommending this child be "put in therapy instantly". I've seen productive and thoughtful responses (for the most part). The underlying theme of each response was to get linked up with EI as soon as possible. There are good reasons for that.

AlleyCat · 04-21-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CSign

This is what your original post said in this thread,

You are absolutely correct that 5 different people will experience language, learning and speech differently. I'm presuming your implication is depending on the degree of hearing loss. I totally agree with you on that point.

However, what could each of those 5 people have benefitted from in their own unique way? Early Intervention. The sooner the better, regardless of the degree of loss. That was Ocean's point that seems to have been swept out to sea.

In terms of, "levels of service"... Well, each individual will receive different services depending on their own unique needs, so you can't compare 2 different people, or 5 different people. Each has their own unique set of needs and circumstances.

That is exactly what I said, thank you for reinforcing my point. Seriously? You people are tiresome. I said exactly what you just reinforced, that 5 people will experience different levels of services based on degree of loss. LEVEL OF LOSS DOES MATTER! :facepalm inserted here: I never argued against timeliness of this. Good grief. I so dislike people sounding off like they've had years of experience in this when they know nothing, such as OB (yes, I'm totally willing to call her out on this) and I BASICALLY SAID WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, enough, already! Done with this thread. My goodness.

CSign · 04-21-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

That is exactly what I said, thank you for reinforcing my point. Seriously? You people are tiresome. I said exactly what you just reinforced, that 5 people will experience different levels of services based on degree of loss. LEVEL OF LOSS DOES MATTER! :facepalm inserted here: I never argued against timeliness of this. Good grief. I so dislike people sounding off like they've had years of experience in this when they know nothing, such as OB (yes, I'm totally willing to call her out on this) and I BASICALLY SAID WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, enough, already! Done with this thread. My goodness.

As to the bolded above, that's not quite true. One person with a severe hearing loss who received EI for example, may not require as many services as someone with a mild- moderate loss at age 8 (let's say). The reason, because the child wasn't in an accessible environment and didn't receive services to meet their needs in their formative years. On the other hand, the child with a severe loss attended school
through EI, and received the support which enabled them to be on par with their peers. That child may not require many additional services because they didn't fall behind. That's just one example. There are countless others. So really, the degree of hearing loss has little to do with "the level of service". What it comes down to is what that individual child's individual needs at any given time.

smellyshoes · 04-22-2012, 07:46 PM

Wow, so I definitely did not mean to be stirring up this trouble. Anyhow, I finally got a response out of EI (pediatrician never sent the referral, wtf) and we have our first meeting with them tomorrow. In the mean time, the hubby and I are sign cramming pretty hard and are trying to use at least one sign in every sentence with our daughter. We can see the signs 'clicking' with her--like 'finally people are speaking my language.' She particularly seems to like that signing anything that looks like jump or dance makes her parents act silly

-smelly

smellyshoes · 04-22-2012, 08:20 PM

Hmm, apparently I'm only allowed to post if approved by a mod. I didn't realize I had written anything inflammatory. I'm thinking coming to this forum for advice, during an already intense time, was not so helpful (given the flame war that ensued). I'll just go back to relying on local friends/family. To those of you who were helpful, thanks.

**Bottesini** · 04-22-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smellyshoes

Hmm, apparently I'm only allowed to post if approved by a mod. I didn't realize I had written anything inflammatory. I'm thinking coming to this forum for advice, during an already intense time, was not so helpful (given the flame war that ensued). I'll just go back to relying on local friends/family. To those of you who were helpful, thanks.

That usually works better than asking a bunch of strangers on the internet.

Plus using your area education agency. And yes this is what is done in my family.

This is just for socialization.

CSign · 04-23-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smellyshoes

Wow, so I definitely did not mean to be stirring up this trouble. Anyhow, I finally got a response out of EI (pediatrician never sent the referral, wtf) and we have our first meeting with them tomorrow. In the mean time, the hubby and I are sign cramming pretty hard and are trying to use at least one sign in every sentence with our daughter. We can see the signs 'clicking' with her--like 'finally people are speaking my language.' She particularly seems to like that signing anything that looks like jump or dance makes her parents act silly

-smelly

You didn't stir up trouble. There are some people who do that on their own. Don't give it a second thought.

Hope your appointment with EI goes well. Let us know how it goes...

deafdyke · 04-24-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smellyshoes

Wow, so I definitely did not mean to be stirring up this trouble. Anyhow, I finally got a response out of EI (pediatrician never sent the referral, wtf) and we have our first meeting with them tomorrow. In the mean time, the hubby and I are sign cramming pretty hard and are trying to use at least one sign in every sentence with our daughter. We can see the signs 'clicking' with her--like 'finally people are speaking my language.' She particularly seems to like that signing anything that looks like jump or dance makes her parents act silly

-smelly

You didn't stir up any trouble at all. It's AWESOME that your daughter is responding so well with Signs!!!! YEAH!

AlleyCat · 04-24-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by smellyshoes

Wow, so I definitely did not mean to be stirring up this trouble. Anyhow, I finally got a response out of EI (pediatrician never sent the referral, wtf) and we have our first meeting with them tomorrow. In the mean time, the hubby and I are sign cramming pretty hard and are trying to use at least one sign in every sentence with our daughter. We can see the signs 'clicking' with her--like 'finally people are speaking my language.' She particularly seems to like that signing anything that looks like jump or dance makes her parents act silly

-smelly

I learned sign before age 2 (I was born deaf) and that went a long ways, and am very thankful for that.

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04-22-2012, 08:20 PM	#36 (permalink)
smellyshoes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 7	Hmm, apparently I'm only allowed to post if approved by a mod. I didn't realize I had written anything inflammatory. I'm thinking coming to this forum for advice, during an already intense time, was not so helpful (given the flame war that ensued). I'll just go back to relying on local friends/family. To those of you who were helpful, thanks.