Do you guys embrace your hearing loss/deafness?! - Page 4

rockin'robin · 12-16-2011, 10:05 AM

As a late-deafened person...I do realize the extent of my loss. For those born deaf, perhaps it's a different story and they adapt better.

Any child that is born, is God's gift. No matter if they're deaf/blind/deformed...whatever. Same as for animals. They deserve all the love and compassion we have to give.

As far as embracing my deafness/hearing loss, it took a very long time. I do not hide it, am upfront about it, and deal with rude comments on the spot!

As far as my child being born deaf.....I know the struggles they will have to go thru in life. Do I wish it upon the child? No....but, it's the way of life, we must deal with what we are dealt, make the most of it and give the child as much love, understanding and education as possible.

posts from hell · 12-16-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

I disagree,
when you accuse someone of not wanting to have their children deaf as "horrible",call that person "racist" , "audist" telling that person what she/he "assume"and so on, then that person absolutely deserves to have to her/his questions answered.

I merely repeated the very same questions for that person for nobody answered as of yer, and still no answer, only evasiveness.

When a person is trying to frame the question into _______ perspective the non-_______ have no desire to answer it because it goes against their thoughts/beliefs.

The reason why I left it blank is it pretty much can be filled in with anything. The case right here is the term: audist.

Audiofuzzy · 12-16-2011, 04:54 PM

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The reason why I left it blank is it pretty much can be filled in with anything. The case right here is the term: audist.

Really? but, like, REALLY ??????

Just because it is one thing to accept what's already happened
and another what is yet to happen,

is it ground to yell out "audist" on the spot?

again, like - REALLY ?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Fuzzy

posts from hell · 12-16-2011, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Really? but, like, REALLY ??????

Just because it is one thing to accept what's already happened
and another what is yet to happen,

is it ground to yell out "audist" on the spot?

again, like - REALLY ?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Fuzzy

Yup, really. Feel free to take it that way. Obviously I have people who are agreeing with me.

jillio · 12-16-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Perhaps I've confused you by bringing up Christmas and wishing.
Just like jillio says, and I do agree 100% with her, there is a reason for everything.
While wishing and wanting are different, I'm desire both.

I've ask more than once, and got no answer, do you want a child born blind? No, No not your OWN child but ANY CHILD. Same thing with a child being born with a missing limb. Do you want ANY CHILD born with a missing limb? Same thing with a child born with a hole in the heart. Do you want ANY CHILD born that way?
We can wish these did not happen to a child and we can WANT these not to happen in the future BUT we know they will because we are humans. Therefore wishing and wanting, as different as they are, are still perfectly logical and good.

Based on this reply, you did not understand the meaning behind "everything happens for a reason."

jillio · 12-16-2011, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VacationGuy234

I totally agree. I cringe at the thought that children have to go through what I've gone through.

They don't. They are forced to because of the rampant audism in this country, not because of their deafness. Get rid of audism, and the whole world changes. We don't need to get rid of deafness; we need to get rid of audism.

MyNameIsNO · 12-16-2011, 05:16 PM

it not bad thing be deaf. bec you have wonderful deaf community supportive and meeting deaf people same you. deafness not bad but audist is bad. bec they make world very close mind of deafs people and make deaf people feel as not welcome and outcast in world.

**DeafBadger** · 12-16-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

I can't say I feel the same way, I was born HOH and got me into a lot trouble with my not very understanding dad!

Well, I was being a bit sarcastic. (My point was really that I have no choice in the matter of my deafness. I was born with it and it is a part of me.) It hasn't been easy to be deaf, but like others have said in this thread, this is not because of deafness, per se, but because of how hearing people deal with deaf people.

drphil · 12-16-2011, 06:28 PM

As for the hypothesis "wonderful/supporting Deaf" community consider realty. DEAF persons with Cochlear Implants who do not use ASL et al- being "welcomed" without being labelled "audist"?
Could "some members" here fit?

posts from hell · 12-16-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by drphil

As for the hypothesis "wonderful/supporting Deaf" community consider realty. DEAF persons with Cochlear Implants who do not use ASL et al- being "welcomed" without being labelled "audist"?
Could "some members" here fit?

There are people like that, sorry to break that to you.

**Dixie** · 12-16-2011, 07:05 PM

I would say that AD has been nothing but supportive.

Audiofuzzy · 12-16-2011, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

They don't. They are forced to because of the rampant audism in this country, not because of their deafness. Get rid of audism, and the whole world changes. We don't need to get rid of deafness; we need to get rid of audism.

So - they either do or they don't. One of the two, not the two at once.

Fuzzy

Audiofuzzy · 12-16-2011, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

Yup, really. Feel free to take it that way. Obviously I have people who are agreeing with me.

Well, if this as simple as that, then surely you will have no problem
answering this at last straightforward -

would you want to have your child born

a/ deaf
b/ blind
c/with physical deformity
d/paralyzed ?

Fuzzy

posts from hell · 12-16-2011, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Well, if this as simple as that, then surely you will have no problem
answering this at last straightforward -

would you want to have your child born

a/ deaf
b/ blind
c/with physical deformity
d/paralyzed ?

Fuzzy

I broke into tears when I found my daughter was Deaf. Easily answered.

kokonut · 12-16-2011, 07:33 PM

I was in awe and happy when my daughters were born.

**Jiro** · 12-16-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

I was in awe and happy when my daughters were born hearing.

correct me if I'm wrong.

Audiofuzzy · 12-16-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

I broke into tears when I found my daughter was Deaf. Easily answered.

are you kidding me???
you didn't answer in the least bit.

Fuzzy

posts from hell · 12-16-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

are you kidding me???
you didn't answer in the least bit.

Fuzzy

How so?

jillio · 12-16-2011, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

As for the hypothesis "wonderful/supporting Deaf" community consider realty. DEAF persons with Cochlear Implants who do not use ASL et al- being "welcomed" without being labelled "audist"?
Could "some members" here fit?

Sure. You just don't fit there.

jillio · 12-16-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

So - they either do or they don't. One of the two, not the two at once.

Fuzzy

You are making no sense.

jillio · 12-16-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

I was in awe and happy when my daughters were born.

I was in awe and happy when my son was born. His hearing status had nothing to do with it. What a shame that your happiness at your child's birth is dependent upon their hearing status.

Am I sorry he's deaf? Absloutely not. Deaf is a part of who he is, and he is an amazing young man. Am I sorry that I had the opportunity to raise a deaf child? Absolutely not. It has made me who I am, and my world is much richer for the experience and the people it has brought into my life.

Would I be upset if I had another deaf child, or a deaf grandchild? Absolutely not. I know what a world of wonderment is in store.

Sunshine · 12-16-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

I never said that, so don't even try to put words in my mouth.
I don't want children born blind, do you? I don't want children born with missing limbs, do you? I don't want children born with a hole in their heart, do you?
Yes, children are born these ways but still it is RIGHT for me and everyone else NOT to want it to happen.

So, what you suggest, Dr Mengele?

Sunshine · 12-16-2011, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Well, if this as simple as that, then surely you will have no problem
answering this at last straightforward -

would you want to have your child born

a/ deaf
b/ blind
c/with physical deformity
d/paralyzed ?

Fuzzy

I ABSOLUTELY want my future children be deaf same me.

jillio · 12-16-2011, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunshine

So, what you suggest, Dr Mengele?

**Dixie** · 12-16-2011, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Agreed.

jillio · 12-16-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, he went back and edited.

He must have taken me off ignore, lol!

Audiofuzzy · 12-17-2011, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

How so?

Because Rolling's and my question was
"would you WANT your child to be born deaf"

not "how did you react AFTER it was born and found deaf".

'Before and after' - are two very different meanings.

I would too break into happy tears if my child was born deaf.
That doesn't mean I wouldn't WANT for my child to be born hearing.

Now, show some spine already and dare to admit the STRAIGHTFORWARD truth.
No evasive answers again, please.

Fuzzy

rolling7 · 12-17-2011, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

They don't. They are forced to because of the rampant audism in this country, not because of their deafness. Get rid of audism, and the whole world changes. We don't need to get rid of deafness; we need to get rid of audism.

Silly, illogical post. Get rid of audism and the deaf child still CAN'T hear the birds sing, the wonderful sound of the waterfalls and perhaps someday the child's own baby's first cry.

dogmom · 12-17-2011, 07:33 AM

rolling, but to think that those examples HAVE to matter to a child who has never heard them, or matter at all - that's audism-

to think that there is less "wonder" and beauty in the world if one isn't hearing those things - that audism-

to focus on "can't" - that's audism-

posts from hell · 12-17-2011, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Because Rolling's and my question was
"would you WANT your child to be born deaf"

not "how did you react AFTER it was born and found deaf".

'Before and after' - are two very different meanings.

I would too break into happy tears if my child was born deaf.
That doesn't mean I wouldn't WANT for my child to be born hearing.

Now, show some spine already and dare to admit the STRAIGHTFORWARD truth.
No evasive answers again, please.

Fuzzy

Um....... I thought it was clear. I did not want a hearing baby. I was wanting a deaf baby. I would have never broke into tears when I found I had a hearing baby.

But whatever, don't get too worked up and break something.

12-16-2011, 10:05 AM	#91 (permalink)
rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,677	As a late-deafened person...I do realize the extent of my loss. For those born deaf, perhaps it's a different story and they adapt better. Any child that is born, is God's gift. No matter if they're deaf/blind/deformed...whatever. Same as for animals. They deserve all the love and compassion we have to give. As far as embracing my deafness/hearing loss, it took a very long time. I do not hide it, am upfront about it, and deal with rude comments on the spot! As far as my child being born deaf.....I know the struggles they will have to go thru in life. Do I wish it upon the child? No....but, it's the way of life, we must deal with what we are dealt, make the most of it and give the child as much love, understanding and education as possible. Bebonang likes this.

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MyNameIsNO Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 692	it not bad thing be deaf. bec you have wonderful deaf community supportive and meeting deaf people same you. deafness not bad but audist is bad. bec they make world very close mind of deafs people and make deaf people feel as not welcome and outcast in world. deafdyke, posts from hell, dogmom and 1 others like this.

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,170	As for the hypothesis "wonderful/supporting Deaf" community consider realty. DEAF persons with Cochlear Implants who do not use ASL et al- being "welcomed" without being labelled "audist"? Could "some members" here fit? __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

12-16-2011, 07:05 PM	#101 (permalink)
Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	I would say that AD has been nothing but supportive. deafdyke, posts from hell, jillio and 1 others like this. __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

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kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	I was in awe and happy when my daughters were born. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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12-17-2011, 07:33 AM	#119 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,510	rolling, but to think that those examples HAVE to matter to a child who has never heard them, or matter at all - that's audism- to think that there is less "wonder" and beauty in the world if one isn't hearing those things - that audism- to focus on "can't" - that's audism- deafdyke and jillio like this.

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