Gallaudet: Losing deaf culture???

deafbajagal · 09-25-2011, 07:13 AM

Gallaudet University adjusts to a culture that includes more hearing students - The Washington Post

Wow...what do you make of this? Are we making Gallaudet more hearing friendly?

**shel90** · 09-25-2011, 08:40 AM

Interesting...those who are of "hearing" minded are complaining about Gallaudet being too Deaf culture for them. Well, isnt that what Gallaudet was founded on?

I dont have a problem with accepting people who arent fluent with ASL as long as they respect Deaf culture and become fluent in ASL. Otherwise, why go to Gallaudet? That was why I chose to go to Gallaudet to get my Master's Degree instead of University of Arizona or Oregon State University because I wanted to become more fluent in ASL and understand Deaf culture better. I got what I wanted. Yes, I had a rough first semester from those who who deemed me as not being "Deaf" enough but I wasnt going to let that stop me and I proved them wrong.

drphil · 09-25-2011, 09:10 AM

Is it possible that the "deaf militants" are "upset" at Gallaudet's actions which "may have effected" due to decrease in "students"?
A Historical note: Chapter 3-Oliver Sacks "Seeing Voices"- how time "marches on".

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posts from hell · 09-25-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Interesting...those who are of "hearing" minded are complaining about Gallaudet being too Deaf culture for them. Well, isnt that what Gallaudet was founded on?

I dont have a problem with accepting people who arent fluent with ASL as long as they respect Deaf culture and become fluent in ASL. Otherwise, why go to Gallaudet? That was why I chose to go to Gallaudet to get my Master's Degree instead of University of Arizona or Oregon State University because I wanted to become more fluent in ASL and understand Deaf culture better. I got what I wanted. Yes, I had a rough first semester from those who who deemed me as not being "Deaf" enough but I wasnt going to let that stop me and I proved them wrong.

It all comes from the top. The Gallaudet film - link provided - was actually "too Deaf" for Gallaudet. WTF.

youtube.com/gallaudetfilm

DeafCaroline · 09-25-2011, 10:17 AM

drphil - did you even read the article?

Frisky Feline · 09-25-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

It all comes from the top. The Gallaudet film - link provided - was actually "too Deaf" for Gallaudet. WTF.

youtube.com/gallaudetfilm

Too deaf? nah! youtube looks good to me. I do not understand why they go to gallaudet if they think its too deaf for them when they know it is for deaf people. eh.

Amen to that article.

Quote:

“We want a signing environment, because how often do deaf students get that environment?” said Dylan Hinks, 20, student body president. “This is the place where I want to have comfort and ease in my communication.”

deafbajagal · 09-25-2011, 12:09 PM

What does Gallaudet do about the hazing problem. And, yes, there's a big hazing problem.

Frisky Feline · 09-25-2011, 12:17 PM

what haze are you talking about?

drphil · 09-25-2011, 11:26 PM

DeafCaroline :I own the book and have read the chapter-have you? That is how I know what Oliver Sacks wrote. Pages 125 to 159.

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posts from hell · 09-25-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by drphil

DeafCaroline :I own the book and have read the chapter-have you? That is how I know what Oliver Sacks wrote. Pages 125 to 159.

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Doesnt matter. We're talking about the article posted int he OP

deafdyke · 09-26-2011, 01:27 AM

Slow news day perhaps? I do think it's ****ed up that deaf kids aren't learning ASL until university.....BUT in the old days there were kids who showed up at Gally not knowing any sign....HELLO, remmy all the grads of Clarke, CID. Tucker Maxon etc? A lot of them ended up at Gally or NTID.
Also, res school attendance has been kind of rare for the past twenty years....I don't think res schools have been a huge feeder (for Gally) since about the mid 70's. It's just that Gally's demographics are looking more like NTID....

DeafCaroline · 09-26-2011, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

DeafCaroline :I own the book and have read the chapter-have you? That is how I know what Oliver Sacks wrote. Pages 125 to 159.

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I'm talking about the article that the OP posted the link to. That's what this thread is about.

Royale · 09-26-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by deafbajagal

What does Gallaudet do about the hazing problem. And, yes, there's a big hazing problem.

Wait a minute! What JKF said about the upperclassmen hazing non-signing students in the article was COMPLETELY UNTRUE! I never heard of this kind of incident when I was at Gally. Also I checked in with several friends who graduated there in the past and recently, and they told me that they never heard of it before. we figured out that she made them up. How unfortunate.

JKF just went out to re-open old wounds with them cuz she was so bitter over her much-deserved oust.

Royale · 09-26-2011, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

DeafCaroline :I own the book and have read the chapter-have you? That is how I know what Oliver Sacks wrote. Pages 125 to 159.

Totally irrelevant!

Royale · 09-26-2011, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Is it possible that the "deaf militants" are "upset" at Gallaudet's actions which "may have effected" due to decrease in "students"?

You absolutely had no idea on what it looked like at Gally so do not make any wrong assumption toward Gally. If you do not know what you are talking about, then you are not supposed to be here.

As matter of facts, there have had not too many Deaf militants at Gally for a very long time.

**Cheetah** · 09-26-2011, 11:04 AM

I went to gally, I never experienced or heard of this kind of hazing...

drphil · 09-26-2011, 01:06 PM

I have never been a student at Gallaudet- no comment except for Oliver Sacks article a few years ago. I mentioned his article -apparent change from today-so it seems!

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deafbajagal · 09-26-2011, 06:53 PM

I know of 4 people who left G because of hazing....hazing is common in many universities...

**shel90** · 09-26-2011, 07:56 PM

My brother was involved with one of the fraternities...I was there when there was supposedly "hazing" ..what I saw was nothing compared to the hazing that went on at Arizona State University. However, that was back in 2000 to 2001. Maybe it is a problem now?

I know that ASU did have a problem with hazing but not sure about now.

**Smithtr** · 09-26-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drphil

DeafCaroline :I own the book and have read the chapter-have you? That is how I know what Oliver Sacks wrote. Pages 125 to 159.

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Please don't be bother on member because you seems play games your images, appropriate your behavior your posts becuase they don't like pretend on images your personal, idea serious! I warned you on be careful don't be bugging or something play story mixing up on story! be careful your reading! don't be attention because if you stubborn ignored to people next time

OP thread

drphil · 09-26-2011, 11:01 PM

I should be "careful" what I read-thanks Travis.

Some "comments" here?

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**Smithtr** · 09-26-2011, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

I should be "careful" what I read-thanks Travis.

Some "comments" here?

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exactlly!!! that is right!

Royale · 09-27-2011, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deafbajagal

I know of 4 people who left G because of hazing....hazing is common in many universities...

The article is not about fraternities and sororities.

JKF mentioned the hazing on non-signing students by upperclassmen in the article. I know it is completely untrue. I already double checked with my friends who went there and we felt she made it up.

drphil · 09-27-2011, 11:11 PM

Travis: any "suggestions" on whose I shouldn't read or comment on?
Consider in due course.

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Grummer · 09-28-2011, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

what haze are you talking about?

W.E.E.D.S !!!

Weak Education Endangering Deaf.Sydrome

Grummer · 09-28-2011, 04:41 AM

Fernandes now serves as provost of the University of North Carolina at Asheville. In an e-mail interview, she said, “There remains entrenched at Gallaudet a strong deaf culture that perpetuates a very narrow way to live as a deaf person.”

Now now THAT's is Not appropriate thing to say about Deaf culture, ****ing bastards.

its not made up. read the article..

i mean there is always a slip out of 'truths' and this is one of it, in this regard, no small wonder Gally went downhill abit, because of the bloody morons administrated the places when they clearly shouldn't!

Frisky Feline · 09-28-2011, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grummer

W.E.E.D.S !!!

Weak Education Endangering Deaf.Sydrome

LOL at first i was not sure what they were talking about because i have never experienced any hazing being in gally for 7 yrs.

by the way i found weeds some awkward but funny.

Grummer · 09-28-2011, 04:50 AM

its seem like Fernarodos made some mess and left so it looks like someone else ****ed it up...
typical typical, thats what politicans do too

Grummer · 09-28-2011, 04:51 AM

i wasnt either, but i guessed Hazing is that, but it could be something else, i m just playing up LOL

Frisky Feline · 09-28-2011, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grummer

i wasnt either, but i guessed Hazing is that, but it could be something else, i m just playing up LOL

I know I think that was a good one though. too bad you havent been at gally because i know you would like it there.

More likely you end up involving with the kind of debating stuff at gally. right, royale?

09-25-2011, 07:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
deafbajagal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,171	Gallaudet: Losing deaf culture??? Gallaudet University adjusts to a culture that includes more hearing students - The Washington Post Wow...what do you make of this? Are we making Gallaudet more hearing friendly?

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shel90 Let It Snow!!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,290 Blog Entries: 3	Interesting...those who are of "hearing" minded are complaining about Gallaudet being too Deaf culture for them. Well, isnt that what Gallaudet was founded on? I dont have a problem with accepting people who arent fluent with ASL as long as they respect Deaf culture and become fluent in ASL. Otherwise, why go to Gallaudet? That was why I chose to go to Gallaudet to get my Master's Degree instead of University of Arizona or Oregon State University because I wanted to become more fluent in ASL and understand Deaf culture better. I got what I wanted. Yes, I had a rough first semester from those who who deemed me as not being "Deaf" enough but I wasnt going to let that stop me and I proved them wrong. katz4life, Grummer, CSign and 4 others like this. __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,113	Is it possible that the "deaf militants" are "upset" at Gallaudet's actions which "may have effected" due to decrease in "students"? A Historical note: Chapter 3-Oliver Sacks "Seeing Voices"- how time "marches on". Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 murderegina likes this. __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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09-25-2011, 10:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	drphil - did you even read the article?

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deafbajagal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,171	What does Gallaudet do about the hazing problem. And, yes, there's a big hazing problem.

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Frisky Feline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20,231	what haze are you talking about?

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deafdyke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 13,082	Slow news day perhaps? I do think it's ****ed up that deaf kids aren't learning ASL until university.....BUT in the old days there were kids who showed up at Gally not knowing any sign....HELLO, remmy all the grads of Clarke, CID. Tucker Maxon etc? A lot of them ended up at Gally or NTID. Also, res school attendance has been kind of rare for the past twenty years....I don't think res schools have been a huge feeder (for Gally) since about the mid 70's. It's just that Gally's demographics are looking more like NTID....

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Cheetah Cheetah Consulting-Closed Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,694	I went to gally, I never experienced or heard of this kind of hazing...

09-26-2011, 06:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
deafbajagal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,171	I know of 4 people who left G because of hazing....hazing is common in many universities...

09-26-2011, 07:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
shel90 Let It Snow!!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,290 Blog Entries: 3	My brother was involved with one of the fraternities...I was there when there was supposedly "hazing" ..what I saw was nothing compared to the hazing that went on at Arizona State University. However, that was back in 2000 to 2001. Maybe it is a problem now? I know that ASU did have a problem with hazing but not sure about now. __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

09-26-2011, 11:01 PM	#21 (permalink)
drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,113	I should be "careful" what I read-thanks Travis. Some "comments" here? Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

09-27-2011, 11:11 PM	#24 (permalink)
drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,113	Travis: any "suggestions" on whose I shouldn't read or comment on? Consider in due course. Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

09-28-2011, 04:41 AM	#26 (permalink)
Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,518	Fernandes now serves as provost of the University of North Carolina at Asheville. In an e-mail interview, she said, “There remains entrenched at Gallaudet a strong deaf culture that perpetuates a very narrow way to live as a deaf person.” Now now THAT's is Not appropriate thing to say about Deaf culture, ****ing bastards. its not made up. read the article.. i mean there is always a slip out of 'truths' and this is one of it, in this regard, no small wonder Gally went downhill abit, because of the bloody morons administrated the places when they clearly shouldn't! __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein

09-28-2011, 04:50 AM	#28 (permalink)
Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,518	its seem like Fernarodos made some mess and left so it looks like someone else ****ed it up... typical typical, thats what politicans do too __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein

09-28-2011, 04:51 AM	#29 (permalink)
Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,518	i wasnt either, but i guessed Hazing is that, but it could be something else, i m just playing up LOL __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein

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