Audism Free America

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-12-2011, 10:51 PM

I support Audism Free America; AFA!

I am sure many of you guys supports too but sadly, I know some deaf people actually against it. So sad.

jillio · 07-12-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

I support Audism Free America; AFA!

I am sure many of you guys supports too but sadly, I know some deaf people actually against it. So sad.

There are many deaf and hoh audists around.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-12-2011, 10:53 PM

Really? I bet they are brainwashed.

jillio · 07-12-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

Really? I bet they are brainwashed.

No doubt.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-12-2011, 10:58 PM

I watched one woman, her vlog about how she against AFA. So I made a hitler video to mock her and she complained that I were cyberbulling her and speech hate toward Aduism. Parody has do nothing with this expect mock.

jillio · 07-12-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

I watched one woman, her vlog about how she against AFA. So I made a hitler video to mock her and she complained that I were cyberbulling her and speech hate toward Aduism. Parody has do nothing with this expect mock.

I find that audists are terribly defensive.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-12-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I find that audists are terribly defensive.

Definely. Also they believe AG Bell helped deaf people. I wonder where did they get that infomation?

**KarissaMann05** · 07-12-2011, 11:17 PM

Because they don't believe in audism because only few Deaf people created one word. To be honest, I'M SO SO SO TIRED OF A PLENTY OF MANY DEAF PEOPLE NEVER SUPPORT DEAF COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY BLAME ALL OF US FOR THEIR DAMN PROBLEMS!

No reason!

</rant>

Okay... it frustrates me when they claim they never see any hearing person oppress Deaf people. They thought hearing people is better because they never make any drama or just how know to keep their personals private. (Yes, I get this a lot of times! Yeah, right.)

Ugh. Whatever.

**KarissaMann05** · 07-12-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

Definely. Also they believe AG Bell helped deaf people. I wonder where did they get that infomation?

Well, yes and no. They do help them to hear better and teach them how to be like hearing people if they're deaf and spoken people... But I don't think they will to help D/deaf signers...

jillio · 07-12-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

Definely. Also they believe AG Bell helped deaf people. I wonder where did they get that infomation?

From other audists.

Grummer · 07-13-2011, 01:31 AM

but why does it have to be America?
thats not the only country in the world which have audism

drphil · 07-13-2011, 08:20 AM

Audism free: already exists. Called the graveyard.
Real quiet!

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

drphil · 07-13-2011, 08:20 AM

Another round of "alice in deafland": why doesn't deaf/Deaf persons use ASL/BSL et al if they "believe in deaf values"- "earwashed"?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

jillio · 07-13-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Grummer

but why does it have to be America?
thats not the only country in the world which have audism

I would much prefer an audism free world.

jillio · 07-13-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by drphil

Another round of "alice in deafland": why doesn't deaf/Deaf persons use ASL/BSL et al if they "believe in deaf values"- "earwashed"?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

You know, you are unable to contribute constructively to any thread concerning cultural issues and concerns. Your "alice in deafland" is very insulting and juvenile of you. Either contribute constructively or STFU.

jillio · 07-13-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by drphil

Audism free: already exists. Called the graveyard.
Real quiet!

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

You really are a certifiable jerk. Name calling? You bet. You get back what you put out.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Audism free: already exists. Called the graveyard.
Real quiet!

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

Seriously, get off my page.

**Jiro** · 07-13-2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Audism free: already exists. Called the graveyard.
Real quiet!

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

lol.

Grummer · 07-13-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I would much prefer an audism free world.

Thats what i was getting at, why it is America, America, America. They aren't the only country on the bloody planet. Part of it is the education system that indoctrinates. (im serious here!) but anyway, not getting upset, just a note to say its fine to think AFA, which seems to be a almost-direct copy of ADA, afterall experiementing is fine, but in real world, it'd be never like that. Hell, theres probably already an AFA but it would stand for something else...
Sorry Joey, but I can see your points, and its good to know you're getting aware of audism, but AFA is too nation-centred not Deaf-centred for Deaf means all Deaf all around the world!.
Nice idea, but not nice enough to ignore other Deafs around the world, that's all. Just a freindly opinion here, im not disagreeing with you, im just disagreeing with the 'just for america' concepts. America isn't the free-est country in the world like they'd like you to believe, it's a big lie, trust me on that one.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-13-2011, 03:54 PM

hey, don't blame me for AFA. I never own AFA.

**Smithtr** · 07-13-2011, 04:18 PM

Many compalint argue to seems, netural prove your serious! reason how do you know serious aware I don't believe it,earth of worlds is very audism not person

if suppose you think blamed or complaint you don't believe worlds the audism!

jillio · 07-13-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Grummer

Thats what i was getting at, why it is America, America, America. They aren't the only country on the bloody planet. Part of it is the education system that indoctrinates. (im serious here!) but anyway, not getting upset, just a note to say its fine to think AFA, which seems to be a almost-direct copy of ADA, afterall experiementing is fine, but in real world, it'd be never like that. Hell, theres probably already an AFA but it would stand for something else...
Sorry Joey, but I can see your points, and its good to know you're getting aware of audism, but AFA is too nation-centred not Deaf-centred for Deaf means all Deaf all around the world!.
Nice idea, but not nice enough to ignore other Deafs around the world, that's all. Just a freindly opinion here, im not disagreeing with you, im just disagreeing with the 'just for america' concepts. America isn't the free-est country in the world like they'd like you to believe, it's a big lie, trust me on that one.

I see where you are coming from, and understand what you are saying because I tend to see things in a more global sense, too. I think that is the result of our areas of study. Most people, however, still focus on their own nation first. It is to be expected.

drphil · 07-13-2011, 10:23 PM

I don't live in the United States of America. I reside in Toronto Ontario Canada. Never read/heard of AFA here in Canada-yet.

Is AFA a "construction of cultural deaf values" from "deaf militants?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

**KarissaMann05** · 07-13-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by drphil

I don't live in the United States of America. I reside in Toronto Ontario Canada. Never read/heard of AFA here in Canada-yet.

Is AFA a "construction of cultural deaf values" from "deaf militants?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

No... and no.

AFA is meant to help various people with hearing loss when they are in need. Some bosses denied their rights for some reasons, deaf people come to AFA for the solution.

Sometimes, they took their newborn kids from deaf parents at hospital and parents fight back to get their kids back.

Sometimes, they don't allow deaf people to live in some places and they have no place.

Go on and go on... But NO ONE, I mean, NO ONE should deny anyone. That is what AFA is for!

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-13-2011, 10:52 PM

They can take children from deaf parents? Anytime they want?

**KarissaMann05** · 07-13-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

They can take children from deaf parents? Anytime they want?

No. Not what I mean. It is uncommon happening, actually. But sometimes, they take their babies because some doctors and nurses are ignorant and don't understand. They take their babies because they thought people with hearing loss are incapable to be parents. =/

It does happen, sadly.

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-13-2011, 10:56 PM

Oh i see. Audist Doctors. Doctors don't have a right to steal their babies!

**KarissaMann05** · 07-13-2011, 11:02 PM

Ah, I guess I don't explain it well.

Okay, they don't steal, really. They just have a right to take their babies if they find out that parents don't bring their baby car seats unless those parents have to buy one. They can take their babies if they find out parents are not fit enough for being 'good' parents. They have their reasons for keep babies at hospital until further notice. But too bad, doctors and/or nurses take their babies for wrong reasons, somtimes...

JoeyDeafNinja · 07-13-2011, 11:03 PM

Oh okay

Grummer · 07-14-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

hey, don't blame me for AFA. I never own AFA.

hey, relax its cool what you trying to do/say..im just pointing out that Deafness is a worldwide issue that's all, But hey have you seen the film "dancing to the music'? its about the beginning of ADA, the guy went deaf literally and regained some but still have the torment of tinnitus (like i do), he befreinded a short guy who uses the wheelchair (i think), it is a brillient film, you should see it!

AFA got a nice ring to it for Audism Free America is good but not gonna happen this soon , not even by a long shot, I really wish it would too! hell, Assholes Free America is even harder to achieve too LMAO

Relax its a good question you made for the thread kodos to you Cheers

07-12-2011, 10:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,270	Audism Free America I support Audism Free America; AFA! I am sure many of you guys supports too but sadly, I know some deaf people actually against it. So sad. __________________ Strength and thrown off reason and reality Cut myself and screamed for their insanity Wake up to this nightmare that will never end Main attraction of this twisted master plan I will be your deadman With nothing but this blood on my hands Stuck in your wonderland I wanna make you bleed just like me So make me your deadman With only poisoning in my veins Stuck in your wonderland Stagnated by the passivity I'm gonna make you bleed like me

07-12-2011, 10:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,270	Really? I bet they are brainwashed. __________________ Strength and thrown off reason and reality Cut myself and screamed for their insanity Wake up to this nightmare that will never end Main attraction of this twisted master plan I will be your deadman With nothing but this blood on my hands Stuck in your wonderland I wanna make you bleed just like me So make me your deadman With only poisoning in my veins Stuck in your wonderland Stagnated by the passivity I'm gonna make you bleed like me

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JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,270	I watched one woman, her vlog about how she against AFA. So I made a hitler video to mock her and she complained that I were cyberbulling her and speech hate toward Aduism. Parody has do nothing with this expect mock. __________________ Strength and thrown off reason and reality Cut myself and screamed for their insanity Wake up to this nightmare that will never end Main attraction of this twisted master plan I will be your deadman With nothing but this blood on my hands Stuck in your wonderland I wanna make you bleed just like me So make me your deadman With only poisoning in my veins Stuck in your wonderland Stagnated by the passivity I'm gonna make you bleed like me

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KarissaMann05 Premium Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 6,381	Because they don't believe in audism because only few Deaf people created one word. To be honest, I'M SO SO SO TIRED OF A PLENTY OF MANY DEAF PEOPLE NEVER SUPPORT DEAF COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY BLAME ALL OF US FOR THEIR DAMN PROBLEMS! No reason! </rant> Okay... it frustrates me when they claim they never see any hearing person oppress Deaf people. They thought hearing people is better because they never make any drama or just how know to keep their personals private. (Yes, I get this a lot of times! Yeah, right.) Ugh. Whatever. jillio, KristinaB and JoeyDeafNinja like this. __________________ "Pragmatic language is a vital social skill that enables the school-aged child to navigate their way through demanding social situations." -- R. Owens

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,115	Audism free: already exists. Called the graveyard. Real quiet! Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,115	Another round of "alice in deafland": why doesn't deaf/Deaf persons use ASL/BSL et al if they "believe in deaf values"- "earwashed"? Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07 Last edited by drphil; 07-13-2011 at 08:26 AM. Reason: duplicate- again

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JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,270	hey, don't blame me for AFA. I never own AFA. __________________ Strength and thrown off reason and reality Cut myself and screamed for their insanity Wake up to this nightmare that will never end Main attraction of this twisted master plan I will be your deadman With nothing but this blood on my hands Stuck in your wonderland I wanna make you bleed just like me So make me your deadman With only poisoning in my veins Stuck in your wonderland Stagnated by the passivity I'm gonna make you bleed like me

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Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,669	Many compalint argue to seems, netural prove your serious! reason how do you know serious aware I don't believe it,earth of worlds is very audism not person if suppose you think blamed or complaint you don't believe worlds the audism! __________________

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,115	I don't live in the United States of America. I reside in Toronto Ontario Canada. Never read/heard of AFA here in Canada-yet. Is AFA a "construction of cultural deaf values" from "deaf militants? Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,270	They can take children from deaf parents? Anytime they want? __________________ Strength and thrown off reason and reality Cut myself and screamed for their insanity Wake up to this nightmare that will never end Main attraction of this twisted master plan I will be your deadman With nothing but this blood on my hands Stuck in your wonderland I wanna make you bleed just like me So make me your deadman With only poisoning in my veins Stuck in your wonderland Stagnated by the passivity I'm gonna make you bleed like me

07-13-2011, 10:56 PM	#27 (permalink)
JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,270	Oh i see. Audist Doctors. Doctors don't have a right to steal their babies! __________________ Strength and thrown off reason and reality Cut myself and screamed for their insanity Wake up to this nightmare that will never end Main attraction of this twisted master plan I will be your deadman With nothing but this blood on my hands Stuck in your wonderland I wanna make you bleed just like me So make me your deadman With only poisoning in my veins Stuck in your wonderland Stagnated by the passivity I'm gonna make you bleed like me

07-13-2011, 11:02 PM	#28 (permalink)
KarissaMann05 Premium Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 6,381	Ah, I guess I don't explain it well. Okay, they don't steal, really. They just have a right to take their babies if they find out that parents don't bring their baby car seats unless those parents have to buy one. They can take their babies if they find out parents are not fit enough for being 'good' parents. They have their reasons for keep babies at hospital until further notice. But too bad, doctors and/or nurses take their babies for wrong reasons, somtimes... __________________ "Pragmatic language is a vital social skill that enables the school-aged child to navigate their way through demanding social situations." -- R. Owens Last edited by KarissaMann05; 07-14-2011 at 01:57 AM. Reason: To reduce the confusion by correct grammar.

07-13-2011, 11:03 PM	#29 (permalink)
JoeyDeafNinja Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Travelers Rest, SC Posts: 1,270	Oh okay __________________ Strength and thrown off reason and reality Cut myself and screamed for their insanity Wake up to this nightmare that will never end Main attraction of this twisted master plan I will be your deadman With nothing but this blood on my hands Stuck in your wonderland I wanna make you bleed just like me So make me your deadman With only poisoning in my veins Stuck in your wonderland Stagnated by the passivity I'm gonna make you bleed like me

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