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**Cheetah** · 08-12-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by drphil

What type of "nut on issues problem" suggested?

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I think Smithtr is trying to tell you that you are not focusing on the issues, you are just causing problems.

**sallylou** · 08-12-2011, 12:29 PM

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Smithtr is very perceptive.

dogmom · 08-12-2011, 02:08 PM

I think so too.

**Smithtr** · 08-12-2011, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

What type of "nut on issues problem" suggested?

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huh

I Notice prescptive you seems on confused because mostly always

Lol I know It is very look like seems not attention reading i believe he is very not see something

I guess observed it on seems he is had struggle posts too much I knew already his bio might to he is very not well no idea I don't understand what is wrong communication seems he is very not understand! I believe it!
seems it is very uncommunication personal! I aware it!

**Smithtr** · 08-12-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sallylou

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Smithtr is very perceptive.

I do experience asl and language on perceptive observed lots of behavior and emotion! expression!
native language and ASL & English

I know seems expression on language!

drphil · 08-13-2011, 08:37 AM

Not to question your extensive knowledge of ASL-grammar /syntax OR English grammar- what exactly do intend by the phrase-nut on issues problem?

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**sallylou** · 08-13-2011, 09:11 AM

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Yes, you're wise beyond your years, smithtr. :-)

**Bottesini** · 08-13-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by drphil

Not to question your extensive knowledge of ASL-grammar /syntax OR English grammar- what exactly do intend by the phrase-nut on issues problem?

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I'm pretty sure it was a typo. "Not on issues, problem" is what I think Smithtr meant to say.

Means, "Please stay on topic, DrPhil. It is a problem when you get personal instead of talking about the issues."

**Smithtr** · 08-13-2011, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Not to question your extensive knowledge of ASL-grammar /syntax OR English grammar- what exactly do intend by the phrase-nut on issues problem?

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not my personal because wise your careful your language because instead on on topic

not personal because

language syntax and grammar

I said not nut, because sometimes on problem! native language development!

my personal perceptive analyze reason issues on language identify!

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Originally Posted by sallylou

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Yes, you're wise beyond your years, smithtr. :-)

I do wise

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I'm pretty sure it was a typo. "Not on issues, problem" is what I think Smithtr meant to say.

Means, "Please stay on topic, DrPhil. It is a problem when you get personal instead of talking about the issues."

I agree you!!!! totally agree you are right good that is correct

**Smithtr** · 08-13-2011, 08:51 PM

I tell spread to lots of worlds< I do courage to people

I am proud of because reason important to courage to tell to worlds I believe it language I help people because I teach tell truth I have native language I am busy I teach challenge is lots of reason explain to teach! I am lots of enjoy happy supportive, I have reputation impressive I can help quality team! I am cooperation try friends newbie

I hope be really appreciate to communicatio!

drphil · 08-13-2011, 10:27 PM

Cheers Bottesini: more laps for you.

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**Smithtr** · 08-14-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Because we enjoy watching you f*** up the meanings.

what you think 0_o, you know foul language careful! I know reason

I don't like swearing! you netural your back mind

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Cheers Bottesini: more laps for you.

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you too much ask always on annoy ad I am serious!

drphil · 08-14-2011, 09:10 AM

Bottesini hope you aren't "annoyed" at the real laps on your behalf?
Enjoy the rest of day- a bit cooler in Iowa. Big night coming up here in Toronto-Cochlear Implant exercise-Salsa & Swing.

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**Smithtr** · 08-14-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by drphil

Bottesini hope you aren't "annoyed" at the real laps on your behalf?
Enjoy the rest of day- a bit cooler in Iowa. Big night coming up here in Toronto-Cochlear Implant exercise-Salsa & Swing.

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I Understand you confused seems on incorrect because focus on language native language

next time one time i won't posts you!

silly expression on posts! what ask me no more!

drphil · 08-14-2011, 12:44 PM

Travis: that is okay not post any further comments to any post I key. No problem.

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**Bottesini** · 08-14-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by drphil

Travis: that is okay not post any further comments to any post I key. No problem.

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Travis said don't post comments not on native language here.

If you want to say something to me, I will see it in "thread about nothing ", or "what did you do today."

He has asked you politely not to talk off topic in his thread.

jillio · 08-14-2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Travis: that is okay not post any further comments to any post I key. No problem.

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Ummmm...that isn't what Travis was saying.

**Smithtr** · 08-14-2011, 06:02 PM

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I am right I tell you limit on my personal protect to implentation!

Don't be play story false because actually because seems on bit control annoy

Be careful

I know respect to member! I don't against to people,l I respect to people I knew
I courage to people newbie how role language native asl! stick for me! important I research find review on my personal new future will language become aware it issues improve development strong deaf cultures feedback improve issues lots of hard work native complication!I will update research best effort consider lots of team quality! I observed it quality special experiment improve issues

dogmom · 08-14-2011, 06:05 PM

Travis I think you're pretty patient person

you most always are very respectful

**Smithtr** · 08-14-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dogmom

Travis I think you're pretty patient person

you most always are very respectful

of course I do always kindly patient I would be help you! I hope be improve language

you learn it how issues language asl and language

dogmom · 08-14-2011, 07:13 PM

I like to learn from you

**Smithtr** · 08-14-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dogmom

I like to learn from you

I am happy hear you learn it newbie native language

thumb up! Great

I will update research find inform! I let know quality team personal

**Smithtr** · 08-15-2011, 09:39 PM

update i tell you information research review on quality American Sign Language ASL- Audiology Awareness Campaign

I will update posts work for courage member improve language i will research find update soon project!
http://www.deaflibrary.org/asl.html

SilentWanderer · 08-25-2011, 09:28 AM

New (and hearie) as I am, I don't have much problem understanding Travis' posts. At first my brain said, "Pardon?" And then...it switched...and it was as if I was transliterating pictographs to words and I understood. Just takes an extra second.

I think it's awesome.

jillio · 08-25-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentWanderer

New (and hearie) as I am, I don't have much problem understanding Travis' posts. At first my brain said, "Pardon?" And then...it switched...and it was as if I was transliterating pictographs to words and I understood. Just takes an extra second.

I think it's awesome.

That's the key. Switch from auditory oral processing to visual/spatial processing.

SilentWanderer · 08-25-2011, 12:14 PM

I'm in a linguistics geek - language of all kinds fascinates me. However, I've always preferred to communicate non-verbally (even when I could speak or when my voice cooperates these days). It seems that people are "educated" for the most part to ignore non-verbal communication except as auxillary after they get to a certain academic level and anyone who communicates primarily "without words" is looked down upon as being, well, less than human. A primate who happens to walk upright. I don't think that's right, nor fair, but that's my opinion.

The way I see it is this: what do people naturally do when they cannot understand each other's words? They attempt to communicate by gesticulating. I'm not going to compare the sign languages to gesticulating because they're more complex than that. Humans find ways to make themselves understood. What sucks is that social constraints, expectations, prejudices etc get in the way of that basic fact anymore.

drphil · 08-25-2011, 12:38 PM

Isn't this a computer screen which uses "words/ideas" to communicate- one hopes?

What linguistics as such has to do with written words- not sure-relevant?

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jillio · 08-25-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentWanderer

I'm in a linguistics geek - language of all kinds fascinates me. However, I've always preferred to communicate non-verbally (even when I could speak or when my voice cooperates these days). It seems that people are "educated" for the most part to ignore non-verbal communication except as auxillary after they get to a certain academic level and anyone who communicates primarily "without words" is looked down upon as being, well, less than human. A primate who happens to walk upright. I don't think that's right, nor fair, but that's my opinion.

The way I see it is this: what do people naturally do when they cannot understand each other's words? They attempt to communicate by gesticulating. I'm not going to compare the sign languages to gesticulating because they're more complex than that. Humans find ways to make themselves understood. What sucks is that social constraints, expectations, prejudices etc get in the way of that basic fact anymore.

Research has shown that we actually use more non-verbal information to interpret verbal messages than we even realize. For example, if there is incongruence between the verbal message and the body language being demonstrated, we will over rule the verbal meaning and attribute the meaning implied by the non-verbal.

jillio · 08-25-2011, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Isn't this a computer screen which uses "words/ideas" to communicate- one hopes?

What linguistics as such has to do with written words- not sure-relevant?

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Written words are language, are they not?

Linguisitics = study of language.

SilentWanderer · 08-25-2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Research has shown that we actually use more non-verbal information to interpret verbal messages than we even realize. For example, if there is incongruence between the verbal message and the body language being demonstrated, we will over rule the verbal meaning and attribute the meaning implied by the non-verbal.

Yes - in the "liar research", for example. Also, in research into how children understand "intent".

08-12-2011, 12:29 PM	#272 (permalink)
sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	Wirelessly posted (droid) Smithtr is very perceptive. Smithtr, jillio, KristinaB and 1 others like this. __________________

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,112	Not to question your extensive knowledge of ASL-grammar /syntax OR English grammar- what exactly do intend by the phrase-nut on issues problem? Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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08-13-2011, 10:27 PM	#281 (permalink)
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08-14-2011, 09:10 AM	#283 (permalink)
drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,112	Bottesini hope you aren't "annoyed" at the real laps on your behalf? Enjoy the rest of day- a bit cooler in Iowa. Big night coming up here in Toronto-Cochlear Implant exercise-Salsa & Swing. Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

08-14-2011, 12:44 PM	#285 (permalink)
drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,112	Travis: that is okay not post any further comments to any post I key. No problem. Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

08-14-2011, 06:02 PM	#288 (permalink)
Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,656	I reading on careful I honest I am uncomfortable because personal because proper on forum is very mixing on mess on forum I don't understand on reading! I want to clean up on proper on forum reason important because not personal reason you another what do you today on General Chat I am right I tell you limit on my personal protect to implentation! Don't be play story false because actually because seems on bit control annoy Be careful I know respect to member! I don't against to people,l I respect to people I knew I courage to people newbie how role language native asl! stick for me! important I research find review on my personal new future will language become aware it issues improve development strong deaf cultures feedback improve issues lots of hard work native complication!I will update research best effort consider lots of team quality! I observed it quality special experiment improve issues jillio and KristinaB like this. __________________

08-14-2011, 06:05 PM	#289 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,472	Travis I think you're pretty patient person you most always are very respectful Smithtr likes this.

08-14-2011, 07:13 PM	#291 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,472	I like to learn from you Smithtr likes this.

08-15-2011, 09:39 PM	#293 (permalink)
Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,656	update i tell you information research review on quality American Sign Language ASL- Audiology Awareness Campaign I will update posts work for courage member improve language i will research find update soon project! http://www.deaflibrary.org/asl.html __________________

08-25-2011, 09:28 AM	#294 (permalink)
SilentWanderer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Winter Haven, FL, USA Posts: 45	New (and hearie) as I am, I don't have much problem understanding Travis' posts. At first my brain said, "Pardon?" And then...it switched...and it was as if I was transliterating pictographs to words and I understood. Just takes an extra second. I think it's awesome.

08-25-2011, 12:14 PM	#296 (permalink)
SilentWanderer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Winter Haven, FL, USA Posts: 45	I'm in a linguistics geek - language of all kinds fascinates me. However, I've always preferred to communicate non-verbally (even when I could speak or when my voice cooperates these days). It seems that people are "educated" for the most part to ignore non-verbal communication except as auxillary after they get to a certain academic level and anyone who communicates primarily "without words" is looked down upon as being, well, less than human. A primate who happens to walk upright. I don't think that's right, nor fair, but that's my opinion. The way I see it is this: what do people naturally do when they cannot understand each other's words? They attempt to communicate by gesticulating. I'm not going to compare the sign languages to gesticulating because they're more complex than that. Humans find ways to make themselves understood. What sucks is that social constraints, expectations, prejudices etc get in the way of that basic fact anymore.

08-25-2011, 12:38 PM	#297 (permalink)
drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,112	Isn't this a computer screen which uses "words/ideas" to communicate- one hopes? What linguistics as such has to do with written words- not sure-relevant? Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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