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Unread 07-03-2011, 11:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Posted by drphil - an interesting topic for your research-why "many latedeafened persons" get Cochlear Implants and don't "learn" ASL/BSL et al"? A current "battle" between "oral vs cultural"deaf.

Jillio replied - That has been done to death, and the answer is blatantly obvious. And it is not a battle between oral vs signing deaf. Late deafened issues generally are not even a consideration in Deaf Culture.

That has to be one of the lamest assumption in the 21st Century Deaf debates I have ever came across, incredibly dumb.

To add; ask ANY Deaf people, regardless of age, race, class they will immediately reply... "oh, that person is not Deaf, they want CI to hear again, doesnt bother me"...hardly in the (sic) battle at ALL...
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Unread 07-04-2011, 03:21 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I have been " retired" for almost 20 years though not bilateral deaf for that length of time.
I was talking about "how long have you been out goth scene?

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No I am not self defined "cultural" deaf-however.Just real/actual.
You are medically and I say again medically deaf which yes is

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I personally don't know any deaf skinheads. Haven't even checked with the Ontario Association of the Deaf or Bob Rumball Centre for the Deaf-either. No comment on how interact's with a deaf skinhead within one's surroundings.
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Also, I am not part of "goth scene" here in Toronto.
Have you ever been part of the goth scene in real life?
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Unread 07-04-2011, 08:23 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I am in real life-all along. I don't identify a computer screen as real life.
I have mentioned before that I don't know ANY persons self described as "goths/skinheads". Yeah possible someone was travelling the TTC subway "labeled goths/skinheads".

inmate23: Hard to be in"goth/skinhead life" if I don't know any? The answer NO! Why: would the local deaf community be the last place to look for deaf skinheads- Wouldn't they "share deaf values"?


Perhaps-that the Ontario Association of the Deaf/Bob Rumball Centre for the Deaf would "know" any Deaf skinheads- if any here in Toronto especially if self described as deaf.

The "skinheads"( not mentioned if deaf re V F) I interacted with- on Vampire Freaks.Com -were in London England. As I recall the discussion-should parents teach their 5 year children their religious values?

Whether somebody disagrees with my actual experience of deafness- not my problem in whatever verbal label assigned . Doesn't change my condition.

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So drphil cant give straight answer.
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Unread 07-04-2011, 09:20 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Write about how the deaf peeps have a tail tucked away in fear of being found out that they are really aliens!
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Unread 07-04-2011, 09:26 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Write about how the deaf peeps have a tail tucked away in fear of being found out that they are really aliens!
Hahaha!! Way back when I used to wear the Third Boob (see my avatar), I used to tell kids sometimes that there was an alien in my hearing aid.
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Unread 07-04-2011, 01:30 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I only got the questions of "Why are you wearing parts to a transistor radio in your ear?"
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Unread 07-04-2011, 02:19 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Write about how the deaf peeps have a tail tucked away in fear of being found out that they are really aliens!
Shhh.... My identity must remain secret.
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How about sex? Unique and interesting topic for most
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Haha! I can see Grummer hitting himself on the forehead and saying "d'oh!"
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Unread 07-04-2011, 04:14 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Haha! I can see Grummer hitting himself on the forehead and saying "d'oh!"
lol, and just who is this Grummer person?
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He's the one who started "Do we have a challenge ahead of us to avoid becoming hearing?" thread. He says Deaf people talk about sex too much and especially too publicly but that could just be the ones he's hanging out with somewhere in New Zealand. Not sure.
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He's the one who started "Do we have a challenge ahead of us to avoid becoming hearing?" thread. He says Deaf people talk about sex too much and especially too publicly but that could just be the ones he's hanging out with somewhere in New Zealand. Not sure.
Oh!! The one that says burn fat off one's soul? Allrighty! Haha.

I see what he means about deaf people talking too much about sex. Hence the research topic -- I mean, the interview questions would be interesting for a change! I just want to stab myself in the eyes with a fork when someone asks to interview me about the mundane things except to get a good grade off me. I do apologize if this makes me sound evil, but it is what it is. I applaud this chick for asking a very interesting question about what would be cool to write about. Keeps the mind open to some cool avenues of the community!

Lessee, another interesting topic to write about would be the Deaf comedy thing. ASL films? Big around these parts. And how about more Deaf actors like Sean Berdy/Sho Stern/etc are getting into sitcoms and movies now? Should hearing people portray Deaf people?
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Unread 07-04-2011, 10:53 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Another research topic:: Would "deaf skinheads/goths" be welcomed in the "deaf community"?

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Is it just me or is anyone else on here tired of people wanting to write papers on us?
yes, I understand it's for a class but...I'm not a lab rat!

are you hearing-the one writing the paper?
I dont have much of a choice. I am in an ASL class and required to write this. I was told "Write a 3 page research paper about some topic in Deaf culture." Well good grief, give me a broad topic area why dont you!
I have been inter-mingled in the Deaf World for two years now. I have more Deaf friends than hearing friends. I feel more comfortable with Deaf people than hearing people.
I am hearing with an auditory processing disorder. I've been signing for two years and am in school to become an interpreter. All of my signing was learned socially through immersion so I am lacking much of the grammar and syntax, which is why I am starting ASL classes from the lowest available, even though it is commonly tedious.

Thank you everyone for your input. I havent made up my mind yet but i've definatley got some good ideas to play around with
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Unread 07-05-2011, 03:20 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I am in real life-all along. I don't identify a computer screen as real life.
I have mentioned before that I don't know ANY persons self described as "goths/skinheads". Yeah possible someone was travelling the TTC subway "labeled goths/skinheads".

inmate23: Hard to be in"goth/skinhead life" if I don't know any? The answer NO! Why: would the local deaf community be the last place to look for deaf skinheads- Wouldn't they "share deaf values"?


Perhaps-that the Ontario Association of the Deaf/Bob Rumball Centre for the Deaf would "know" any Deaf skinheads- if any here in Toronto especially if self described as deaf.

The "skinheads"( not mentioned if deaf re V F) I interacted with- on Vampire Freaks.Com -were in London England. As I recall the discussion-should parents teach their 5 year children their religious values?

Whether somebody disagrees with my actual experience of deafness- not my problem in whatever verbal label assigned . Doesn't change my condition.

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Unread 07-05-2011, 03:22 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Skinheads are generally not accepted by any community other than their own.

You are using skinheads/goths as if they are the same thing with the same ideology. Nothing is further from the truth.

Are you really that ill informed regarding all social issues? I just thought it was Deaf issues you were so ignorant of.
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Oh!! The one that says burn fat off one's soul? Allrighty! Haha.

I see what he means about deaf people talking too much about sex. Hence the research topic -- I mean, the interview questions would be interesting for a change! I just want to stab myself in the eyes with a fork when someone asks to interview me about the mundane things except to get a good grade off me. I do apologize if this makes me sound evil, but it is what it is. I applaud this chick for asking a very interesting question about what would be cool to write about. Keeps the mind open to some cool avenues of the community!

Lessee, another interesting topic to write about would be the Deaf comedy thing. ASL films? Big around these parts. And how about more Deaf actors like Sean Berdy/Sho Stern/etc are getting into sitcoms and movies now? Should hearing people portray Deaf people?
That actually produces an interesting debate.
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My observation re "goth and/or skinheads" are from VampireFreaks.Com as a member of almost 5 years.It has almost 2 million members. There was no mentioned of "deaf skinheads" or "deaf goths"-there.

Inmate 23 seems to be familiar with them- thus the question: would the "deaf community" welcome deaf skinheads OR deaf Goths presumably having shared "deaf values"?


As for what is/isn't similar between them-no personal knowledge. Not exactly a pressing need to study the "group".

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Some questions I would suggest you research on...

1. What is the interest in cars with turbocharged engine in Deaf Community as compared to hearing world or deaf people in general?

2. Are deaf/Deaf people more interested in teaching cats, ferrets, or dogs ASL as compared to hearing people?

3. For how long should a deaf/Deaf person be willing to use paper/pen or lap top with their hearing dates before focusing exclusively on signing only??
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