Annoying ignorant hearing people stories - Page 25

posts from hell · 11-12-2011, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Yes, I understand where you're coming from. But, you are on a DEAF forum. Where phonics don't mean a heckuvalot. It's almost rude. I can't think of a single other poster here who has instructed someone on how something should be pronounced. That's where Botts is coming from here.

*coughs*fj*coughs*

AlleyCat · 11-12-2011, 04:04 PM

ok I stand corrected.

**Bottesini** · 11-12-2011, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

*coughs*fj*coughs*

rebeccalj · 11-12-2011, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

*coughs*fj*coughs*

Journey · 11-12-2011, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Yes, I understand where you're coming from. But, you are on a DEAF forum. Where phonics don't mean a heckuvalot. It's almost rude. I can't think of a single other poster here who has instructed someone on how something should be pronounced. That's where Botts is coming from here.

Thank you AlleyCat :-) but on this forum people fall all along the deaf and HoH spectrum and I do not know where Travis sits along that spectrum. As I said, I read his questions to be, what does the word caulking sound like, cauling or walking? The question did not strike me odd at all because I have been asked many times by deafies how to pronounce a particular word or to pronounce a written word so they can see how it looks when it is spoken. I cannot make it any clearer that it may have been a mistake on my part in interpreting his question and, if that was the case, I apologized for my misinterpretation. I can kind of understand now why there are so many active members here who rarely join in conversations/thread it's a minefield and one potential misstep can cause you damage

. I can (and did) understand where Bottesini was coming from, which is why I tried so hard to explain myself but it got me nowhere. I wish Travis would let us know what he meant by his question, that would be most helpful to me ... or anyone else can feel free and most welcome to offer me their intepretation of the question "sound cauling or walking?" in the following post:

means caulking?
cut the end of the tube ?:
I reading more notice bit missing language

sound cauling or walking?

Sunshine · 11-12-2011, 07:52 PM

If I had any understanding phonics, I probably answer Travis question same way Journey. I read Travis question that way, I not answer only because I think I have no idea how word sounds. Not think Journey intend be "rude", she not help be hearie, think like hearie. She apologise, ask clarification question...not sure what else anyone want her say/do.

Journey · 11-12-2011, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunshine

If I had any understanding phonics, I probably answer Travis question same way Journey. I read Travis question that way, I not answer only because I think I have no idea how word sounds. Not think Journey intend be "rude", she not help be hearie, think like hearie. She apologise, ask clarification question...not sure what else anyone want her say/do.

Thanks Sunny, it's nice to know I was not the only one who read it that way - maybe it's a Canuck thing lol. And you are right, I was not trying to be "rude" at all.

**deafskeptic** · 11-12-2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

*coughs*fj*coughs*

damn!

**deafskeptic** · 11-12-2011, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunshine

If I had any understanding phonics, I probably answer Travis question same way Journey. I read Travis question that way, I not answer only because I think I have no idea how word sounds. Not think Journey intend be "rude", she not help be hearie, think like hearie. She apologise, ask clarification question...not sure what else anyone want her say/do.

I don't think I'd be much better when it comes to phonics.

rebeccalj · 11-13-2011, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Journey

Thank you AlleyCat :-) but on this forum people fall all along the deaf and HoH spectrum and I do not know where Travis sits along that spectrum. As I said, I read his questions to be, what does the word caulking sound like, cauling or walking? The question did not strike me odd at all because I have been asked many times by deafies how to pronounce a particular word or to pronounce a written word so they can see how it looks when it is spoken. I cannot make it any clearer that it may have been a mistake on my part in interpreting his question and, if that was the case, I apologized for my misinterpretation. I can kind of understand now why there are so many active members here who rarely join in conversations/thread it's a minefield and one potential misstep can cause you damage

. I can (and did) understand where Bottesini was coming from, which is why I tried so hard to explain myself but it got me nowhere. I wish Travis would let us know what he meant by his question, that would be most helpful to me ... or anyone else can feel free and most welcome to offer me their intepretation of the question "sound cauling or walking?" in the following post:

means caulking?
cut the end of the tube ?:
I reading more notice bit missing language

sound cauling or walking?

Travis is full ASL so, when read his posts *know* he full deafie. Probably 100% deaf but do not know for sure. Only know he full ASL with words.

Do not take offence. Poster probably trying to just make aware or educate.

rebeccalj · 11-13-2011, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Journey

Thanks Sunny, it's nice to know I was not the only one who read it that way - maybe it's a Canuck thing lol. And you are right, I was not trying to be "rude" at all.

Do not feel *rude* either but do not forget we all have lots and lots of bad 'Hearie' days. Capital "H".

Journey · 11-13-2011, 01:48 AM

Thank you Rebecca, I appreciate what you have said

. I understand bad Hearie days, have experienced them in action and they are not pretty. Now maybe I have experienced bad Deafie days here.

Anyway, it is all about learning as we go and I am grateful for everyone's experience and advice, thanks.

Kitten · 11-14-2011, 01:31 PM

I majored in English and I've forgotten everything I once knew about phonics...

Here, however, is a recent, stupid (not annoying or ignorant, but actually stupid) hearing people story.

Went to dinner with a friend and five acquaintances. Was talking to friend about my classes in ASL, when one guy said asked why I was learning ASL. I told him I wanted to be a terp. He said (and my blood boils typing this) "Why? Sign language is just a bunch of pointing and meaningless gesters." My friend had to hold me back. I informed him that was wrong and ASL is a beautiful, complicated language. "All Deaf people read lips," he told me. And "Sign language is a universal language." (Amazingly ignorant, isn't he?) Again, my friend had to hold me back because this time I lunged at him. After attempting to educate this fool, someone else at the table said, "Why not just write everything down?" I don't remember my exact answer, but it quieted everyone at the table. I do believe I called everyone ignorant, arrogant hearies, who give hearing people a bad name in the Deaf Community.

At that point, my friend suggested we leave. Since she was my ride, I agreed.

I don't think they'll be inviting me to the next birthday celebration. Too bad; it was supposed to be mine!

HH scientist · 11-14-2011, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Journey

Thank you AlleyCat :-) but on this forum people fall all along the deaf and HoH spectrum and I do not know where Travis sits along that spectrum. As I said, I read his questions to be, what does the word caulking sound like, cauling or walking? The question did not strike me odd at all because I have been asked many times by deafies how to pronounce a particular word or to pronounce a written word so they can see how it looks when it is spoken. I cannot make it any clearer that it may have been a mistake on my part in interpreting his question and, if that was the case, I apologized for my misinterpretation. I can kind of understand now why there are so many active members here who rarely join in conversations/thread it's a minefield and one potential misstep can cause you damage

. I can (and did) understand where Bottesini was coming from, which is why I tried so hard to explain myself but it got me nowhere. I wish Travis would let us know what he meant by his question, that would be most helpful to me ... or anyone else can feel free and most welcome to offer me their intepretation of the question "sound cauling or walking?" in the following post:

means caulking?
cut the end of the tube ?:
I reading more notice bit missing language

sound cauling or walking?

I would like to mention the 'hearability' of languages (I do not think that there is a single word to describe it). American English is the best thing that I know of. Americans speak clearly, they make pauses between words, they have a nice rhythm, etc. Before anyone says a word, it is not a statement of cultural or political preference, it is merely my judgment of the 'hearability' criterion.

Canadian English is indistinguishable from American English. British English accent is slightly worse, but still 'hearable'. I have visited different parts in England and Ireland and sometimes I cannot hear what they are saying.

Swedish (my native language), German, Russian, Italian are good. French and Danish are really difficult. They do not make any pause between words at all which for me is the main criterion to hear what people are saying.

I studied French for years in school. Useful? No, way!

**Bottesini** · 11-14-2011, 02:04 PM

I am really annoyed that I can't use this thread to express my annoyance .

**Bottesini** · 11-14-2011, 02:09 PM

Also I get really annoyed when they come here with quack remedies. Like a CD that restores the "hearing nerve."

From irreparable damage to the cochlear/vestibular nerve, I constantly feel sick, and fall down easily from vertigo.

If it was fixable, I am pretty sure a doctor would have proposed a treatment.

**Banjo** · 11-14-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HH scientist

Canadian English is indistinguishable from American English.

Some qualities of Canadian English are distinguishable from both British and American English.

**sallylou** · 11-14-2011, 02:33 PM

Bott's on a roll today!

**deafskeptic** · 11-14-2011, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitten

I majored in English and I've forgotten everything I once knew about phonics...

Here, however, is a recent, stupid (not annoying or ignorant, but actually stupid) hearing people story.

Went to dinner with a friend and five acquaintances. Was talking to friend about my classes in ASL, when one guy said asked why I was learning ASL. I told him I wanted to be a terp. He said (and my blood boils typing this) "Why? Sign language is just a bunch of pointing and meaningless gesters." My friend had to hold me back. I informed him that was wrong and ASL is a beautiful, complicated language. "All Deaf people read lips," he told me. And "Sign language is a universal language." (Amazingly ignorant, isn't he?) Again, my friend had to hold me back because this time I lunged at him. After attempting to educate this fool, someone else at the table said, "Why not just write everything down?" I don't remember my exact answer, but it quieted everyone at the table. I do believe I called everyone ignorant, arrogant hearies, who give hearing people a bad name in the Deaf Community.

At that point, my friend suggested we leave. Since she was my ride, I agreed.

I don't think they'll be inviting me to the next birthday celebration. Too bad; it was supposed to be mine!

It's no big loss as they're not worthy or respectful enough to celebrate your birthday.

Kitten · 11-14-2011, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deafskeptic

It's no big loss as they're not worthy or respectful enough to celebrate your birthday.

Thanks!

And you're right. The more I think about those people, the more I think how pathetic their lives are. Just another group of idiots to cross off my list...

**LDNanna** · 11-14-2011, 10:09 PM

What really annoys me is when someone acts exactly like I did when I first joined. lol

I geddit now ok?? Gee. Thick skin isn't enough. You must try to understand what the "deal" is about. Like "doing xx is rude". I would have reacted in a hurt way. Now I go - "Oooh! Woops! Thanks for telling me, now I understand". Then I will try not to do it again (very often). No use in just skimming, sometimes we are taught and we will learn. Which usually means someone cares enough to comment, to teach. What is worse are those who smirk and point privately. No lessons like that!

Remember that some folks seem gruff who definately are not. Unless provoked... shiver... Just imagine a sly smile along with some words. No problems.

How do I know? I started my Deaf Journey as a dumb ex hearie with a definate poor me, sensitive attitude. Miles made and miles to go. Dont be hurt or offended. Read, learn and try to do so with grace. Good learning!

DeafCaroline · 11-14-2011, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HH scientist

I studied French for years in school. Useful? No, way!

hahaha! it's that stupid "errr" that they use as a verbal pause between words. it strings all the words together into an indistinguishable garble to my ears.

I find the English easy to understand. Have you been to the South? It took me a week to learn how to understand Alabama English which definitely merits its own category.

**mbrek** · 11-14-2011, 10:33 PM

I met a southern (very) guy who was describing his cooking prowess to me:

"I know how taballweenies" What? "taballeweenies".

Translation to boil wieners!

HH scientist · 11-15-2011, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

hahaha! it's that stupid "errr" that they use as a verbal pause between words. it strings all the words together into an indistinguishable garble to my ears.

I find the English easy to understand. Have you been to the South? It took me a week to learn how to understand Alabama English which definitely merits its own category.

America is across the ocean, but I hear various American dialects on TV occasionally.

My list of hard-to-hear languages is Danish, French, Dutch and possibly Swiss-German.

candybrowneyes · 11-15-2011, 09:02 AM

The other night I went out with some friends and I was standing at the bar. I happened to have my hair pulled up and it's rare when anyone ever mentions my hearing aids, (most people just stare lol.) this lady who was a little drunk was staring at me, she was sitting on the stool next to where I was standing. I caught her staring and she says "do u wear ear plugs all the time?" my first reaction was "huh" but then realized she was talking about my ha's. I told her they were hearing aids and she went on to talk about how cool they are cause of the color of molds. When I thought this convo was over she then goes on to tell me how she thinks she's losing her hearing and it was cool tonsee someone who was deaf out and about interacting with other people as if I should be locked in a closet or something. By this time I was annoyed and had walked away. I hate when people are ignorant and it bothers the time I'm having...

DeafCaroline · 11-15-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by candybrowneyes

The other night I went out with some friends and I was standing at the bar. I happened to have my hair pulled up and it's rare when anyone ever mentions my hearing aids, (most people just stare lol.) this lady who was a little drunk was staring at me, she was sitting on the stool next to where I was standing. I caught her staring and she says "do u wear ear plugs all the time?" my first reaction was "huh" but then realized she was talking about my ha's. I told her they were hearing aids and she went on to talk about how cool they are cause of the color of molds. When I thought this convo was over she then goes on to tell me how she thinks she's losing her hearing and it was cool tonsee someone who was deaf out and about interacting with other people as if I should be locked in a closet or something. By this time I was annoyed and had walked away. I hate when people are ignorant and it bothers the time I'm having...

Well, another way to look at this is she learned something that night. When you think about it - how often do you see deaf people out and about? I can't remember the last time I saw a deaf person outside of deaf social activities. It's kind of understandable that for them and even for me, to see a deaf person out and about, socializing, unhampered by a disability is noteworthy.

candybrowneyes · 11-15-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Well, another way to look at this is she learned something that night. When you think about it - how often do you see deaf people out and about? I can't remember the last time I saw a deaf person outside of deaf social activities. It's kind of understandable that for them and even for me, to see a deaf person out and about, socializing, unhampered by a disability is noteworthy.

Yeah I guess I can see what you are saying, but I guess I just think back to before I was diagnosed. I never stared at people with disabilities or anything. Then again I don't really do any deaf activities around here as I don't know really anyone in the Deaf community around here. I know I know I should

rockin'robin · 11-15-2011, 09:31 AM

I remmy the time that several g/f's and I got together one Saturday night, and decided to go out clubbing and having a good time. As we were sitting at the bar, this man came over and started "speaking" to my friend....she told him that she was deaf and to speak "slower"...He said, "ur deaf? What are you doing here? All deaf people should stay home!"

He walked off, acting like he had just wasted his time. My g/f was upset. But I was angry. And when he turned around again, I gave him the "bird".

candybrowneyes · 11-15-2011, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockin'robin

I remmy the time that several g/f's and I got together one Saturday night, and decided to go out clubbing and having a good time. As we were sitting at the bar, this man came over and started "speaking" to my friend....she told him that she was deaf and to speak "slower"...He said, "ur deaf? What are you doing here? All deaf people should stay home!"

He walked off, acting like he had just wasted his time. My g/f was upset. But I was angry. And when he turned around again, I gave him the "bird".

Yeah that is how I kinda felt when that lady stared at me and went on about how it was neat that I go out lol

DeafCaroline · 11-15-2011, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candybrowneyes

Yeah that is how I kinda felt when that lady stared at me and went on about how it was neat that I go out lol

Ah! that's different - when people tell you that because you're deaf, you shouldn't....fill in the blanks. that would make me want to tell them off. Like that drunk driver who tried to blame his bad driving on my deafness even though he backed up into my car that was parked at a gas pump, switched off.

11-12-2011, 04:04 PM	#722 (permalink)
AlleyCat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my time zone Posts: 11,087	ok I stand corrected. posts from hell likes this.

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Sunshine Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Home of Canucks! Posts: 3,269 Blog Entries: 2	If I had any understanding phonics, I probably answer Travis question same way Journey. I read Travis question that way, I not answer only because I think I have no idea how word sounds. Not think Journey intend be "rude", she not help be hearie, think like hearie. She apologise, ask clarification question...not sure what else anyone want her say/do. rockin'robin and rebeccalj like this.

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Kitten Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 92	I majored in English and I've forgotten everything I once knew about phonics... Here, however, is a recent, stupid (not annoying or ignorant, but actually stupid) hearing people story. Went to dinner with a friend and five acquaintances. Was talking to friend about my classes in ASL, when one guy said asked why I was learning ASL. I told him I wanted to be a terp. He said (and my blood boils typing this) "Why? Sign language is just a bunch of pointing and meaningless gesters." My friend had to hold me back. I informed him that was wrong and ASL is a beautiful, complicated language. "All Deaf people read lips," he told me. And "Sign language is a universal language." (Amazingly ignorant, isn't he?) Again, my friend had to hold me back because this time I lunged at him. After attempting to educate this fool, someone else at the table said, "Why not just write everything down?" I don't remember my exact answer, but it quieted everyone at the table. I do believe I called everyone ignorant, arrogant hearies, who give hearing people a bad name in the Deaf Community. At that point, my friend suggested we leave. Since she was my ride, I agreed. I don't think they'll be inviting me to the next birthday celebration. Too bad; it was supposed to be mine! Cheetah, DeafRaptor, mbrek and 1 others like this.

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Bottesini Joe's Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: With Owl Sock Posts: 37,642 Blog Entries: 1	I am really annoyed that I can't use this thread to express my annoyance . jillio, KristinaB, LDNanna and 2 others like this. __________________

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Bottesini Joe's Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: With Owl Sock Posts: 37,642 Blog Entries: 1	Also I get really annoyed when they come here with quack remedies. Like a CD that restores the "hearing nerve." From irreparable damage to the cochlear/vestibular nerve, I constantly feel sick, and fall down easily from vertigo. If it was fixable, I am pretty sure a doctor would have proposed a treatment. jillio, KristinaB, LDNanna and 3 others like this. __________________

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Journey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 989	Thank you Rebecca, I appreciate what you have said . I understand bad Hearie days, have experienced them in action and they are not pretty. Now maybe I have experienced bad Deafie days here. Anyway, it is all about learning as we go and I am grateful for everyone's experience and advice, thanks.

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LDNanna Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,696	What really annoys me is when someone acts exactly like I did when I first joined. lol I geddit now ok?? Gee. Thick skin isn't enough. You must try to understand what the "deal" is about. Like "doing xx is rude". I would have reacted in a hurt way. Now I go - "Oooh! Woops! Thanks for telling me, now I understand". Then I will try not to do it again (very often). No use in just skimming, sometimes we are taught and we will learn. Which usually means someone cares enough to comment, to teach. What is worse are those who smirk and point privately. No lessons like that! Remember that some folks seem gruff who definately are not. Unless provoked... shiver... Just imagine a sly smile along with some words. No problems. How do I know? I started my Deaf Journey as a dumb ex hearie with a definate poor me, sensitive attitude. Miles made and miles to go. Dont be hurt or offended. Read, learn and try to do so with grace. Good learning! cmdrwhitewolf, Bottesini, KristinaB and 2 others like this. __________________ I have discovered that the word "diet" begins with d i e.

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candybrowneyes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,358 Blog Entries: 1	The other night I went out with some friends and I was standing at the bar. I happened to have my hair pulled up and it's rare when anyone ever mentions my hearing aids, (most people just stare lol.) this lady who was a little drunk was staring at me, she was sitting on the stool next to where I was standing. I caught her staring and she says "do u wear ear plugs all the time?" my first reaction was "huh" but then realized she was talking about my ha's. I told her they were hearing aids and she went on to talk about how cool they are cause of the color of molds. When I thought this convo was over she then goes on to tell me how she thinks she's losing her hearing and it was cool tonsee someone who was deaf out and about interacting with other people as if I should be locked in a closet or something. By this time I was annoyed and had walked away. I hate when people are ignorant and it bothers the time I'm having... Bottesini, DeafRaptor and HH scientist like this. __________________ Love is the force that transforms and improves the soul of the world...

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rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,659	I remmy the time that several g/f's and I got together one Saturday night, and decided to go out clubbing and having a good time. As we were sitting at the bar, this man came over and started "speaking" to my friend....she told him that she was deaf and to speak "slower"...He said, "ur deaf? What are you doing here? All deaf people should stay home!" He walked off, acting like he had just wasted his time. My g/f was upset. But I was angry. And when he turned around again, I gave him the "bird". cmdrwhitewolf and DeafRaptor like this.

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