Hostile society of the hearing people

katz4life · 10-24-2010, 08:23 AM

Do you think that hearing people are less hostile to other hearing people who are blind or wheelchair-bound than deaf?

I feel that way a lot lately.

SimonJ · 10-24-2010, 08:28 AM

Yes, I think deaf people appear normal and are in some ways thought of as frauds. Why can't you me? Are you stupid? It annoys me to the point I will walk away first.

**GrendelQ** · 10-24-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by katz4life

Do you think that hearing people are less hostile to other hearing people who are blind or wheelchair-bound than deaf?

I feel that way a lot lately.

First tell me which you are, so I know whether to tell you to take a flying leap or answer you nicely.

DDU · 10-24-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GrendelQ

First tell me which you are, so I know whether to tell you to take a flying leap or answer you nicely.

tell her to take a flying leap. since she is deaf she will fail

DDU · 10-24-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonJ

Yes, I think deaf people appear normal and are in some ways thought of as frauds. Why can't you me? Are you stupid? It annoys me to the point I will walk away first.

can't call all hearing people the same. but there are hearing people that are like that.

**shel90** · 10-24-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GrendelQ

First tell me which you are, so I know whether to tell you to take a flying leap or answer you nicely.

Why would you want to tell her to take a flying leap? She is entitled to her feelings based on her experiences.

BecLak · 10-24-2010, 10:30 AM

I think hearing people as a whole feel uncomfortable around D/deaf people because being able to hear is something that they cannot minutely begin to comprehend how they can live without. People are generally afraid of things they don't understand and, more often than not, react in a way that is not favourable. I know that there are some hearing people who genuinely do their best to understand, but this is not the majority.

Speedy Hawk · 10-24-2010, 10:31 AM

Some hearing are nasty to Deaf but are kind towards wheelchair people etc. Some hearing are nice to Deaf. It depends on the person.

I noticed that when I was growing up, girls was far more nasty and judgmental than boys was and boys was far more accepting with Deaf. Not all girls was like that, some was. All the bullies I had came from the girls, none of them came from the boys. Strange.

**Beowulf** · 10-24-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GrendelQ

First tell me which you are, so I know whether to tell you to take a flying leap or answer you nicely.

*sharpening sword*

**GrendelQ** · 10-24-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Why would you want to tell her to take a flying leap? She is entitled to her feelings based on her experiences.

I didn't. I was jokingly answering her based on the question made in initial post.

**Beowulf** · 10-24-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GrendelQ

I didn't. I was jokingly answering her based on the question made in initial post.

I was joking, too, but my sword remains sharp.

**GrendelQ** · 10-24-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BecLak

I think hearing people as a whole feel uncomfortable around D/deaf people because being able to hear is something that they cannot minutely begin to comprehend how they can live without. People are generally afraid of things they don't understand and, more often than not, react in a way that is not favourable. I know that there are some hearing people who genuinely do their best to understand, but this is not the majority.

It's true. My daughter makes me extremely uncomfortable and I'm generally very hostile towards her, vs. the kindness I felt towards my grandmother, who was blind.

**GrendelQ** · 10-24-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

I was joking, too, but my sword remains sharp.

I'm acutely aware of that

**shel90** · 10-24-2010, 11:14 AM

I guess the joke is lost on me. Glad you are all joking.

**Bottesini** · 10-24-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I guess the joke is lost on me. Glad you are all joking.

Wasn't Grendel's point that you should accept everybody?? Seems easy to me.

ExR · 10-24-2010, 11:18 AM

I think this question would be near impossible for anyone to realistically answer unless they're commonly around blind or wheelchair bound people.

**GrendelQ** · 10-24-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I guess the joke is lost on me. Glad you are all joking.

Shel, the OP is deaf, right? I knew that (sig, previous posts, etc.). By joking about potential responding with hostility -- based only upon whether the poster was deaf or hearing -- I was giving a self-mocking example of the type of behavior the poster was asking about. And, hopefully, showing how unlikely that would be. I was not seriously waiting to find out whether the poster is deaf, so I could then seriously respond with hostility.

Frisky Feline · 10-24-2010, 11:40 AM

Recently I had two rude hearing people and i kept smiling at them.

**Bottesini** · 10-24-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

Recently I had two rude hearing people and i kept smiling at them.

Recently I had two deaf people picking on me for not being deaf enough, and I just kept signing "stop, please stop" with a sad look, and just kept shrinking until I was almost non-existant.

Frisky Feline · 10-24-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Recently I had two deaf people picking on me for not being deaf enough, and I just kept signing "stop, please stop" with a sad look, and just kept shrinking until I was almost non-existant.

Those deaf people who picked on you must have issues with their mentals. They should not have done to you for no reasons.

**Bottesini** · 10-24-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

Those deaf people who picked on you must have issues with their mentals. They should not have done to you for no reasons.

I know it , and people are usually nicer, that is not that common an occurance.
Just your post reminded me of it. Oh, well. The world isn't perfect yet.

deafgal001 · 10-24-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Hawk

Some hearing are nasty to Deaf but are kind towards wheelchair people etc. Some hearing are nice to Deaf. It depends on the person.

I noticed that when I was growing up, girls was far more nasty and judgmental than boys was and boys was far more accepting with Deaf. Not all girls was like that, some was. All the bullies I had came from the girls, none of them came from the boys. Strange.

I find that the equal amount.

deafgal001 · 10-24-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Recently I had two deaf people picking on me for not being deaf enough, and I just kept signing "stop, please stop" with a sad look, and just kept shrinking until I was almost non-existant.

They are just as bad. I already knew deaf people are capable doing that as hearing people. a deaf person (I believe it was Ridor) once told hearing people that if they are allowed to sprew out hateful things then he is too. And deaf people are not sweet and innocent and dumb as hearing people like them to be.

**GrendelQ** · 10-24-2010, 12:06 PM

There are far too many rude people in the world. No excuse for it. I suspect that you'll encounter far more rude hearing people than deaf simply by virtue of there being a far larger population of hearing in the world. But I don't think there's a correlation between db loss and kindness. My kid is pretty sweet, though.

**GrendelQ** · 10-24-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

I know it , and people are usually nicer, that is not that common an occurance.
Just your post reminded me of it. Oh, well. The world isn't perfect yet.

not good. But let's work on fixing that!

**KarissaMann05** · 10-24-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

Recently I had two rude hearing people and i kept smiling at them.

Yeah. Last month, in a mall, I talked kind of okay but a few strangers suggested me to drop ASL.

Bah. Of course, I told them off that it is my choice.

Frisky Feline · 10-24-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

Yeah. Last month, in a mall, I talked kind of okay but a few strangers suggested me to drop ASL.

Bah. Of course, I told them off that it is my choice.

wow. the lady got pissy when i signed it and showed the note to her through the window that I wanted to buy the ticket for train. At first, She refuses to do something or make efforts or looking at the note. She kept shaking her head at me. Needless to say that I had to act a friendly and smile, and signed again and showed her the note. :rme: oh boy, She wasn't a happy camper.

**KarissaMann05** · 10-24-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

wow. the lady got pissy when i signed it and showed the note to her through the window that I wanted to buy the ticket for train. At first, She refuses to do something or make efforts or looking at the note. She kept shaking her head at me. Needless to say that I had to act a friendly and smile, and signed again and showed her the note. :rme: oh boy, She wasn't a happy camper.

Your story reminds me of someone refused to take an order from 'small' woman at mini market.

Oh yay...

Speedy Hawk · 10-24-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

wow. the lady got pissy when i signed it and showed the note to her through the window that I wanted to buy the ticket for train. At first, She refuses to do something or make efforts or looking at the note. She kept shaking her head at me. Needless to say that I had to act a friendly and smile, and signed again and showed her the note. :rme: oh boy, She wasn't a happy camper.

I had similar thing happened to me once when I was trying to get ticket for train to London. I wrote down I want returns tickets to London, I was polite in paper in case some people get annoyed easily. I said "Can I have returns tickets to London please? Thanks". This man refused to look at it and I keep pointing at it and queue was getting longer behind me and lucky man eventually looked at it in end!!

***naisho*** · 10-24-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

wow. the lady got pissy when i signed it and showed the note to her through the window that I wanted to buy the ticket for train. At first, She refuses to do something or make efforts or looking at the note. She kept shaking her head at me. Needless to say that I had to act a friendly and smile, and signed again and showed her the note. :rme: oh boy, She wasn't a happy camper.

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Originally Posted by Speedy Hawk

I had similar thing happened to me once when I was trying to get ticket for train to London. I wrote down I want returns tickets to London, I was polite in paper in case some people get annoyed easily. I said "Can I have returns tickets to London please? Thanks". This man refused to look at it and I keep pointing at it and queue was getting longer behind me and lucky man eventually looked at it in end!!

There are just people like that out there. The ones who believe "In America, please speak english only" to immigrants and signers. They are just the hard headed ones. Not much you can do than move on unless you wanna convert them.

10-24-2010, 08:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
katz4life Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Queen City Posts: 1,409	Hostile society of the hearing people Do you think that hearing people are less hostile to other hearing people who are blind or wheelchair-bound than deaf? I feel that way a lot lately.

10-24-2010, 11:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
shel90 Audist are not welcome Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,504 Blog Entries: 3	I guess the joke is lost on me. Glad you are all joking. __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

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10-24-2010, 08:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
SimonJ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 738	Yes, I think deaf people appear normal and are in some ways thought of as frauds. Why can't you me? Are you stupid? It annoys me to the point I will walk away first.

10-24-2010, 10:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
BecLak Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 2,116	I think hearing people as a whole feel uncomfortable around D/deaf people because being able to hear is something that they cannot minutely begin to comprehend how they can live without. People are generally afraid of things they don't understand and, more often than not, react in a way that is not favourable. I know that there are some hearing people who genuinely do their best to understand, but this is not the majority.

10-24-2010, 10:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
Speedy Hawk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: England Posts: 816	Some hearing are nasty to Deaf but are kind towards wheelchair people etc. Some hearing are nice to Deaf. It depends on the person. I noticed that when I was growing up, girls was far more nasty and judgmental than boys was and boys was far more accepting with Deaf. Not all girls was like that, some was. All the bullies I had came from the girls, none of them came from the boys. Strange.

10-24-2010, 11:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
ExR Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 210	I think this question would be near impossible for anyone to realistically answer unless they're commonly around blind or wheelchair bound people.

10-24-2010, 11:40 AM	#18 (permalink)
Frisky Feline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20,560	Recently I had two rude hearing people and i kept smiling at them.

10-24-2010, 12:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
GrendelQ 41°17′00″N 70°04′58″W Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New England, USA Posts: 3,419	There are far too many rude people in the world. No excuse for it. I suspect that you'll encounter far more rude hearing people than deaf simply by virtue of there being a far larger population of hearing in the world. But I don't think there's a correlation between db loss and kindness. My kid is pretty sweet, though.