Jolie77

Hmm, This is interesting. I had a conversation with a friend the other day about this same issue related to the deaf rights.

Anyway, What does deaf rights means to me?

It means there are chances that we can at least try to get better access to interpreters, captioning, notetakers, and all that.

However, the thing is, when it comes to "abusing" it by using an attitude to say "I have deaf rights!" that's like asking for others to be misunderstood easily. There is nothing wrong being as proud as a deaf person but when it comes to the attitude, it is best efficient when you are to be able to educate others in order for them to understand your needs.

Just my 2 cents.

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dead money

exactly.

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PuyoPiyo

To me, the deaf rights are just meaning that we deserve the rights just as well as anyone equally

Although I can understand Karissa about deaf parent's rights to have the children, I've seen some of my deaf friends had their children removed just because they were deaf. They deserve the same rights to keep the children just like the hearies, that is what Deaf's Rights is all about!

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Tousi

Does all of this also mean that "deaf rights" include deaf couples purposely have deaf babies?

PuyoPiyo

If the hearies can have "deaf-free" baby, then we can have the deaf baby too. If they can't, then we can't too.

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KarissaMann05

Yeah... I still remembered some old stories about deaf parents lost their children because they're just deaf... I don't want to post some personal here but, yeah, I glad that you know what I said.

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PuyoPiyo

No problemo

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Grummer

unfortunaely, this does not rubs well with the medical normalcy, i mean it is hardly blameworthy to see the meical pursuits are for creatin ways to eradicate illness. I hate to say this but I will say it , not only they , and also 'we' have indeed crossed the line over the 'ideals' of the human body. I mean do blind couples/people want blind babies? i dont think so, do MSS sufferes wants their babais to have MSS babies? no again

It is only the radical deafies who has (dare I say) been (overly?) absorbed with the influence of Deaf culture in which so doing have even taken the culture paradgim as far to even imply ethnic, so hense somewhere along this line, someone expressed a desire to have deaf babies to perseve deaf culture.
Blind people 'do' have a 'blind culture' (as does other disabled groups) although its very 'small' or fragmented due to the 'lack' of blind language and such. However my point it they dont want blind babies, niether does people with MSS people only some Deaf do, it is an extremely hard 'rights' to obtain. In fact there was a story hitting the headlines about Deaf lesbian couple wanting deaf babies, the debate continues.

I would say indeed demanding rights to have deaf babies (gene modification or adoption) for d/Deaf (especially Deaf) parents is one of the ultimate milestone for Deaf rights. I beg to differ slighty however, I think if we Deaf can prove when we are beg mistreated, or treated differently, we can sue in the exact same way if a black person might sue a white person calling them ******s in public places (is there a such thing? - maybe not but im sure there some very subjective interpretations for some 'extreme case' - say a wealthy black man (eg Denzel washington?) but then again - this is not black's rights , its more 'wealthy's rights) That is typical - we have already seen this and its 'law' but law can only be bought by vast amounts acquiring shifty lawyers.

What you said, about laws, having a 'we cant have this' so they cant have this too' pattern is really interesting. I like what you said it got me really confused and thinking I have a freind who is a lawyer I must ask him sometimes

Again though, popular thoughts in society would disapprove a 'deaf-free' thinking , i know wht you're trying to say, its a clever twist on words, I like that creativity however society i dont think society operates on double - negatives. It never have and probably never will - sadly.

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