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Old 08-16-2008, 08:55 AM   #31 (permalink)
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And I hate it when people do that. My older cousins did that a lot when I was younger and they would pull pranks on me. The adults would do nothing about it. So I just quit hanging out with my family altogether.

Nowadays, when someone intentionally does that in front of me - I will pull their hands down and politely say - it is rude to cover your mouth when speaking. If you want to have a private conversation please do so when I am not around.
I agree..it is rude for anyone to do that and we, deaf, people shouldnt be the exception for them to do it.

I would NOT tolerate people doing that to me and my family already knows it cuz I made a huge stink about it one time.
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Old 08-16-2008, 09:52 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Do your hearing familys communicate in sign or fingerspelling with you because you're Ddeaf/Hhoh?
There are many hearing families who communicate by cueing English. Cueing is also great for supporting the receptive skill of speech reading, even when or if the "speaker" is not cueing.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:13 PM   #33 (permalink)
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There are many hearing families who communicate by cueing English. Cueing is also great for supporting the receptive skill of speech reading, even when or if the "speaker" is not cueing.
Ah, I see. Not perfect communicate, so better than nothing. Thanks for the explanation.

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Old 08-19-2008, 10:32 AM   #34 (permalink)
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my mum would say it's rude for my sister and I to sign if there are non-signers in the room
That's wrong on so many different levels.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:21 PM   #35 (permalink)
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You know what you should do? When you have a deaf friend in the house, start signing and don't use your voice. Do it in front of your parents. Tell each other jokes and then laugh about it so that it makes your parents wonder what you're saying. If they ask, tell them to learn sign language.
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I have already done that, I'm was always bringing over my deaf friends over to the house and we would use ASL all the time without any voice (I never use voice while signing) and they hated it ever part of it, they would stare at us, trying to firgure out what we were saying.

I snapped out of it and told them, "I don't stare at you two when you speak, do I? So please kindly not to stare at us!"

Ever since, they don't stare at me while I'm taking to them, instead, they glare at us....infact my parents are not really welcome to deaf people that doesn't speak by Oral...They always pressure my friends to get CI...I told them to fuck off and they did...

They told me that they want me to teach them ASL so they can understand what my friends and I are saying, making sure we're not saying bad things or blah blah blah and I told them to take a class because i"m not gonna waste my time with you guys to teach ASL if you guys aren't gonna treat my friends with respect or accept my deaf culture.

They never learned and they most likely will never. I haven't spoken or seen them for over two years.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
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My sister used to make me play this game with her when she would just spell the first letter of whatever she's saying to my questions.

Who's coming over? K who? Kelly? Karen? Kevin? you get the drift til I get the person right. I'd yell at her, if she went to all that trouble nodding, and shaking, let alone use her voice. at least tell me WHO! and move on. What a total waste of time when she did this........(sigh)
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Old 08-19-2008, 07:08 PM   #37 (permalink)
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. . . You know what you should do? When you have a deaf friend in the house, start signing and don't use your voice. Do it in front of your parents. Tell each other jokes and then laugh about it so that it makes your parents wonder what you're saying. If they ask, tell them to learn sign language.
Naw, VamPyroX, I think that would be too obvious. Instead, just tell them, when they inquire and pester you what the two of you were talking and laughing about wasn't important and not to worry about it. Keep it up and that'll really tick them off, as it should and possibly get the message.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:01 AM   #38 (permalink)
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My sister is about as good as I am with ASL and PSE, and my parents are learning SEE. It's been so long since my other sister and I have been in contact, she probably doesn't even know I'm deaf. She lives on the other side of the country. The rest of my family acts like I'm hearing, and forces me to lip-read in the most difficult of circumstances, like with their backs turned and running all over. I'd complain, but they have no respect for me as it is, so I say screw it, and stick with the people who care about me. I don't like to make people have to do special things for me, but they could take some initiative and at least be polite. Honestly, I'm extremely good at lip-reading, but I sincerely hate it. I'd rather sign or use Live Messenger
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:26 AM   #39 (permalink)
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we all sign in my family as everyone is Deaf, when I was married to a hearie his family used to exclude me, I lip read well but nobody seemed to want to include me in the conversation I guess they couldnt be bothered including my husband. He never attempted to learn sign or finger spelling. It was left to me to make myself understood.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:25 AM   #40 (permalink)
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There are many hearing families who communicate by cueing English. Cueing is also great for supporting the receptive skill of speech reading, even when or if the "speaker" is not cueing.
Qualify "many". Every piece of evidence I have seen is that there are very few cuers in the U.S. One of the main reasons that it is ineffective for communication. Conversely, ASL is currently the 3rd most popular language being learned at the post secondary level.

Please explain how cueing can support receptive skills when the speaker is not cueing. That makes absolutley no sense. If the cues are not present, they cannot support receptive skills. One has to be able to receive them in order for them to be supportive, and if a speaker is not cueing, the deaf receiver has nothing to receive except spoken language.
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