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Some deaf (especially those who don't speak) would have a hard time understanding what a hearing person wrote if he wrote phonically -- like 'here' when he meant 'hear' or vice versa.

I am laughing at the memory of a deaf friend trying to understand the note from a hearing neighbor.

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DragonYoga

I met her too, at a Deaf event in Austin, TX. I wish I had the money then to buy it! She seemed like a nice lady.

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deafskeptic

I can pass for hearing speech wise and sometimes I have a hard time decoding what a hearing person writes phonically. One of the reasons why I loathe L33t speak is that you have to decode some of it phonically. Still other parts of it you have to decode by sight. I'm never sure which way to decode it.

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jillio

Ah, the inconsistencies of the English language. One of the reasons that a phonetic approach to reading and writing also produces inconsistent results.

JClarke

Uhhh.....*tries to read*

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DragonYoga

Don't get me started on THAT, Jillio! XD I tolerate phonics at best, but I absolutely DETEST the new testing craze from the 9th circle of Hell known as "DIBELS".

I will admit, though, phonics have been shown in research to be a direct link to gaining literacy in reading, but COMEON!!!

*forces self to shut up NOW*

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DragonYoga

Yeah, when a hearing person misspells a word (like hear for here or your for you're), I just look at the context. My husband is TERRIBLE with that.

As for l337 (elite-speak), I first heard of it from my ex-boyfriend and I learned it pretty well. If I see it in a word, I can figure it out pretty good. Ofc, for me, the problem is if it's a Japanese word... in l337. I remember staring at a MegaTokyo webcomic, where a character was saying "baka" in l337. I had to IM him and ask him what it was... XD
(baka is idiot in japanese, apparently)

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jillio

Only in hearing children, and several other methodologies have also been linked to increases in literacy. Phonetic approaches are not the only avenue to literacy. They, in fact, work best with auditory learners. Visual learners and kinesthetic learners need other approaches.

And I will shut up now, too!

skm4441

I might have missed something here. I am not writing to you to attack you. But there is ONE thing made me VERY curious... What made you interested in participating in AllDeaf? I mean, why did you choose to post on this site? Because there are not that many people out there who do such thing.

jillio

Halfway Man isn't around anymore. He started posting because he had a business venture to promote.

deafskeptic

I know leet speak quite well but it was a pain to learn. For example 4 can either mean for or A depending on the context. I like my letters to be regular. I rarely ever use it though I did use it once to parody some gamers who think they're 133t cuz they have madz pvp (player vs player) skillz. I think they're kewl d00dz. I had thought elite was pronounced e-light. Nope. it's e-leet. Hence the spelling of Elite as 133t

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Pepsi

And I think someone made him mad.

moonflower

i can read and write i am lucky to learn in early age smile

Phillips

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jillio

Now I wonder who that could have been?

AlleyCat

I refrained from posting in here because just the very subject header "Can *all* deaf people read and write?" inflammed me. I think I realize HalfwayMan wasn't intentionally trying to inflame anyone, at least I don't think so, but it just amazes me sometimes the questions hearies ask -- the questions almost seem too dumb to be true. Am I right in thinking some people are doing this on purpose to ignite negativity?

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VamPyroX

Perhaps, it was a trick question?

My junior high school English teacher emphasized this to me.

She said that one thing we have to keep an eye out for is exaggeration in statements before determining if it's true or false.

For instance, if you were taking a test and there was a true/false question that said... "All of the Japanese people went to war with the United States during World War II."

Yes, it's true that Japan and the United States were at war... but it's not true that all Japanese people went to war. There were some Japanese people who were against the war and didn't get involved. The key word was "all".

So, in this case... it could be a trick question to see if we were really paying attention. That's why my response was that NOT all deaf people can read and write.

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SxyPorkie

:Maybe it is me... i did pm'ed him telling him off... that he is so stupid to ask all of us who can read and write... what hell is he thinking.. we are here writing and reading...

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Of course, I can read and write. I started learn read and write when I was early age. But I love to draw and crayons on color books.

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shel90

In order for us to be able to use Closed captioning, TTDs, and pagers, we NEED to be able to read and write! LOL!

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Holly

I once heard this little girl ask a deaf woman how she learned to read and write. But in all fairness...it was a little kid asking the question, she didn't know any better. Adults ought to know better.

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deafskeptic

Some adults are so convinced that phonics are the only way to learn how to read and write or if cueing in the case of deaf kids is the best way to learn to read and write. It has always seemed absurd to teach phonics to those who never heard a sound.

Ever try to explain the difference between high pitched sounds and loud sounds to someone who has never heard sounds? Or vice versa?

Sometimes I think adults ask deaf how they learned to read so they can confirm their pet theory on how people learn to read. They don't like it when I say something that counters their theory.

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August

haha, i should go to an African American forum and ask, "Can ALL Black people read and write?"

shel90