From a person that hates deaf people. - Page 5

Bottesini · 05-27-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by serena1986

if people did not like deaf and hard of hearing peoples than they should get the hell out of our lifes,amen and peace.

Those light colors make it hard for some of us to see.

I just need to make it big and bold if you do that.

Babyface · 05-27-2009, 08:13 PM

hey whoever said they hated deafies has the right to hate deafies, why is everyone saying they have insecurities, we shouldnt hate or blast someone because they have difference in opinion.

my two cents

shel90 · 05-27-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyface

hey whoever said they hated deafies has the right to hate deafies, why is everyone saying they have insecurities, we shouldnt hate or blast someone because they have difference in opinion.

my two cents

Anyone who hates a certain group of people without meeting the people of the group are more likely to have serious insecurities.

jillio · 05-27-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Anyone who hates a certain group of people without meeting the people of the group are more likely to have serious insecurities.

Agreed, shel.

Ribs · 05-28-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Ignoring it condones it.

Ignoring it doesn't necessarily condones it, I doubt any of you would be willing to go up to the KKK and try explaining to them why hating colored people is a bad idea, but that doesn't meant that you are for the KKK.

Same with religion. In school I would try to fight for what I believed was right until a group of people (of at least five) came up to me and literally started challenging my believes and it got to the point to where I couldn't even talk so I just turned around and went back to work, ignoring it. That does not mean that I am for the ridiculing of my faith, it just meant I acknowledged that I couldn't do anything about it, that I couldn't change their minds no matter what I did, and went on with my life. Thats just how I see it.

jillio · 05-28-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ribs

Ignoring it doesn't necessarily condones it, I doubt any of you would be willing to go up to the KKK and try explaining to them why hating colored people is a bad idea, but that doesn't meant that you are for the KKK.

Same with religion. In school I would try to fight for what I believed was right until a group of people (of at least five) came up to me and literally started challenging my believes and it got to the point to where I couldn't even talk so I just turned around and went back to work, ignoring it. That does not mean that I am for the ridiculing of my faith, it just meant I acknowledged that I couldn't do anything about it, that I couldn't change their minds no matter what I did, and went on with my life. Thats just how I see it.

I guess you have never met me.

Ribs · 05-28-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I guess you have never met me.

maybe it's the redhead in you

Ribs · 05-28-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ribs

I learned the hard way that the only person you hurt by fuming over another person's discriminatory behavior is yourself, that person has already made up their mind and its no use trying to change it and if you try you'll become exausted and frustrated. Don't take their problems on yourself. The only thing you can do is hold your head high and try not to be like them, and maybe prove them wrong while your at it. And waite until the time is right, when you know you voice will be heard

There, now maybe it'll make more sense

jillio · 05-28-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ribs

maybe it's the redhead in you

Or the lack of tolerance for bigotry.

jillio · 05-28-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ribs

There, now maybe it'll make more sense

An opportunity delayed is an opportunity lost.

November Gypsy · 05-28-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

It could be anything. I've had to deal with similar issues as this person has before.

I would be in a computer lab and there will be a couple deaf students talking and signing loudly. Everyone is distracted by these 2 students. So, when they are asked to be quiet... they immediately snap back "Hey! We're deaf! We can't hear ourselves being loud! We have an excuse to do whatever we're doing! So, fuck off!"

Whoa, what's with that attitude? Of course, this pissed off a lot of hearing students (including me, a deaf student).

Oh, there was one cute gal who was having a conversation with this guy. The issue of dating came up. Well, the guy bluntly told this cute gal... "I can't date you. I refuse to date you. You have hearing parents and don't sign 100% ASL!" Of course, this same guy used the same Deaf Pride and Deaf Culture attitude towards others to get what he wanted. He had a package for a deaf student. All he had was that student's name, but no address. He saw me and another student working in an office. He immediately walked in and started signing bluntly to my co-worker. "Hey, I have a package for this person. Do you know this person?" "Yes, I do." "Come on, hurry... I'm deaf and don't have all day to be treated like an idiot. Tell me where this person lives. Come on!" This made my co-worker very awkward, but I calmly interrupted telling her that she didn't have to tell him. He then looked at me, "Hey, it's none of your business. Shut up! You have no respect for us deaf people!" He then stormed out. (I could give you more stories of how he manipulated the deaf community with his "Deaf Pride" and "Deaf Culture" stuff.) He basically pissed everyone off.

So, I can understand where this guy is coming from. What he did may have been harsh, but he was just venting out his feelings online. After all, isn't that something many of you do in your blogs?

It's very sad, but you have a point. There are some deaf people who think the world owes them a lot more then something because they are deaf. But, then again, every culture has people like that. There are poor people who think the world owes them something because they are poor and there are rich people who think they are owed something because they are rich. I could go on and on.

Still, there is no reason to hate all deaf people because a few of them have an attitude problem, I'm sure you'd agree with that. It's the same with every culture...there is the majority, which in most cultures are fine, and then there is the minority, which have attitude problems for one reason or another.

This guy isn't just making up insults to pass the time. He means them. He has too many examples to be just screwing around...but, interestingly enough, he is part of a culture as well, and he is part of the ignorant, selfish part of that culture. He has been irritated or treated irrationally by a deaf person or two who had a chip on her shoulder, so he decided the whole culture has a problem. It's easier to do that then to think deeper and realize that no one group has a bunch of saints as members. He is clearly not an intelligent person, few intelligent persons make such ridiculous blanket statements, and he is clearly a very unhappy person. No one can be happy with that much hate inside them. Hate is a very deforming, negative energy. As silly, selfish and hurtful as he is, I am very sorry for him. I'd much rather be deaf then be him.

Bebonang · 05-28-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by November Gypsy

It's very sad, but you have a point. There are some deaf people who think the world owes them a lot more then something because they are deaf. But, then again, every culture has people like that. There are poor people who think the world owes them something because they are poor and there are rich people who think they are owed something because they are rich. I could go on and on.

Still, there is no reason to hate all deaf people because a few of them have an attitude problem, I'm sure you'd agree with that. It's the same with every culture...there is the majority, which in most cultures are fine, and then there is the minority, which have attitude problems for one reason or another.

This guy isn't just making up insults to pass the time. He means them. He has too many examples to be just screwing around...but, interestingly enough, he is part of a culture as well, and he is part of the ignorant, selfish part of that culture. He has been irritated or treated irrationally by a deaf person or two who had a chip on her shoulder, so he decided the whole culture has a problem. It's easier to do that then to think deeper and realize that no one group has a bunch of saints as members. He is clearly not an intelligent person, few intelligent persons make such ridiculous blanket statements, and he is clearly a very unhappy person. No one can be happy with that much hate inside them. Hate is a very deforming, negative energy. As silly, selfish and hurtful as he is, I am very sorry for him. I'd much rather be deaf then be him.

:gpost;

Babyface · 05-28-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Anyone who hates a certain group of people without meeting the people of the group are more likely to have serious insecurities.

ok your more than welcome to meet your local neo nazi skinhead group and pal around

jillio · 05-29-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Babyface

ok your more than welcome to meet your local neo nazi skinhead group and pal around

That just reinforces shel's point about insecurities.

shel90 · 05-29-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Babyface

ok your more than welcome to meet your local neo nazi skinhead group and pal around

Very mature response. Guess u don't want anyone here to take u seriously? I will keep that in mind the next time.

November Gypsy · 05-29-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bebonang

:gpost;

*Smiles* Thanks!

Babyface · 05-29-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Very mature response. Guess u don't want anyone here to take u seriously? I will keep that in mind the next time.

what? you said Anyone who hates a certain group of people without meeting the people of the group are more likely to have serious insecurities.

hence my reply just saying have you done this?

shel90 · 05-29-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyface

what? you said Anyone who hates a certain group of people without meeting the people of the group are more likely to have serious insecurities.

hence my reply just saying have you done this?

Iam sorry..not understanding your point. Your last post appeared sarcastic.

Grummer · 05-30-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

It could be anything. I've had to deal with similar issues as this person has before.

I would be in a computer lab and there will be a couple deaf students talking and signing loudly. Everyone is distracted by these 2 students. So, when they are asked to be quiet... they immediately snap back "Hey! We're deaf! We can't hear ourselves being loud! We have an excuse to do whatever we're doing! So, fuck off!"

Whoa, what's with that attitude? Of course, this pissed off a lot of hearing students (including me, a deaf student).

Oh, there was one cute gal who was having a conversation with this guy. The issue of dating came up. Well, the guy bluntly told this cute gal... "I can't date you. I refuse to date you. You have hearing parents and don't sign 100% ASL!" Of course, this same guy used the same Deaf Pride and Deaf Culture attitude towards others to get what he wanted. He had a package for a deaf student. All he had was that student's name, but no address. He saw me and another student working in an office. He immediately walked in and started signing bluntly to my co-worker. "Hey, I have a package for this person. Do you know this person?" "Yes, I do." "Come on, hurry... I'm deaf and don't have all day to be treated like an idiot. Tell me where this person lives. Come on!" This made my co-worker very awkward, but I calmly interrupted telling her that she didn't have to tell him. He then looked at me, "Hey, it's none of your business. Shut up! You have no respect for us deaf people!" He then stormed out. (I could give you more stories of how he manipulated the deaf community with his "Deaf Pride" and "Deaf Culture" stuff.) He basically pissed everyone off.

So, I can understand where this guy is coming from. What he did may have been harsh, but he was just venting out his feelings online. After all, isn't that something many of you do in your blogs?

im with you on this one. There are a lot of confused fuckwits bent on power but they have no idea how to use it properly which just trips over everyone.
i know 3 or 4 of them in NZ and they are welcome to have own opinions but also welcome the hate so this becomes a miscontrued anger directed at an incomplete set of assumptions. It is done without proper focus which none of us want. While there are such thing as educated anger, this is not one of it. Educated anger is rare.

Grummer · 05-30-2009, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Babyface

hey whoever said they hated deafies has the right to hate deafies, why is everyone saying they have insecurities, we shouldnt hate or blast someone because they have difference in opinion.

my two cents

hey whoever said they hated blacks has the right to hate blacks, is that right too ?
so you say its ok to be an Audist as much as being a Racist. how is society going to react to this one? but then again, soceity have already show much intolerances to d/Deaf. So this could partly explain this explosive reaction?

just my 5 cents (i live further away than you do, LOL)

LDNanna · 05-30-2009, 03:42 AM

Good point, Jillio, but to feed or starve the attention craver?
Ignore, it starves to death?
Feed it, it grows massive?
Maybe it is phrased wrong, but this is a serious question. Can you help with an answer?

jillio · 06-01-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nan_Mathews

Good point, Jillio, but to feed or starve the attention craver?
Ignore, it starves to death?
Feed it, it grows massive?
Maybe it is phrased wrong, but this is a serious question. Can you help with an answer?

Unfortunately, ignoring does nothing to stem the flow of bigotry. One must take a stand against it. Taking a stand against it doesn't feed it. Ignoring it feeds it, as it gives implicit consent for it to continue. If one ignores bigotry directed toward others, one has no cause to complain when bigotry touches them.

mom2jace · 07-10-2009, 12:12 AM

Wow. That's ignorance at its worst. What a pathetic person.

xspinningisfun · 07-10-2009, 12:19 AM

Wow. He's a charmer....

Bottesini · 07-10-2009, 12:31 AM

This apparently is over two years old, and this quote is the response of the writer of the essay. He identifies himself as deaf and says it was humor.

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brandon said
November 16, 2007 at 7:57 pm

Just for the record. The post was made months ago. It was a joke. The pictures are from flickr and are unrelated to the post. Last time I heard, in the U.S., it’s still legal to own a gun.

I love deaf people. Really. I am a deaf person myself, having lost my hearing in my late-twenties. Unfortunately, some people took it upon themselves to read without comprehension and began shooting off at the keyboard.

As for my own ugliness. I’ll admit, I’m no prize. Perhaps you should – along with practicing a little more critical reading – take a look in the mirror sometimes.

I’m no threat to anyone. But closeminded, knee-jerk, group-think certainly is. You people have a nice night. And maybe next time, you’ll take a moment or two to think before you react.

It is the #9 response. Brandon is apparently the name of the writer.

You know who I hate: Deaf People Fookem and Bug

DGirl101 · 08-18-2009, 09:42 PM

I checked the comments and the site link posted in the above aforemented post.

Apparently the person who wrote this is Deaf and has been since he was 20 years old.

Now mind you, I can find humor in all sorts of things, even humor with being Deaf.

However, the blog went beyond humor, it went straight through unfunny to downright cruel.

I do not think he realizes that there are those out there that does have that kind of opinion of Deaf people, and there are crazies out there that will snap and do anything. This is only encouragement for that.

There is nothing funny in that blog.

Do you see me laughing Sir?

I think not.

Bottesini · 08-18-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DGirl101

I checked the comments and the site link posted in the above aforemented post.

Apparently the person who wrote this is Deaf and has been since he was 20 years old.

Now mind you, I can find humor in all sorts of things, even humor with being Deaf.

However, the blog went beyond humor, it went straight through unfunny to downright cruel.

I do not think he realizes that there are those out there that does have that kind of opinion of Deaf people, and there are crazies out there that will snap and do anything. This is only encouragement for that.

There is nothing funny in that blog.

Do you see me laughing Sir?

I think not.

On the bolded, of course he does realize.

Are you unfamiliar with Fookem and Bug?

annadilynn · 08-19-2009, 05:01 PM

if you were meaning to joke, it was inappropriately in very bad taste...and dude...it fell on deaf ears....no ones laughing....guess why....ITS NOT FLIPPIN FUNNY...GO BACK UNDER THE ROCK FROM WHICH YOU CRAWLED.

DGirl101 · 08-19-2009, 05:37 PM

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Are you unfamiliar with Fookem and Bug?

Yes I am unfamiliar with Fookem and Bug. Care to familiarize me to them?

Bottesini · 08-19-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DGirl101

Yes I am unfamiliar with Fookem and Bug. Care to familiarize me to them?

Why don't you just go to the site, check out the videos , etc?

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05-30-2009, 03:42 AM	#141 (permalink)
LDNanna Everything purple is mine Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 887	Good point, Jillio, but to feed or starve the attention craver? Ignore, it starves to death? Feed it, it grows massive? Maybe it is phrased wrong, but this is a serious question. Can you help with an answer?

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mom2jace Momma to Mostly Deaf Son Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 5	Wow. That's ignorance at its worst. What a pathetic person.

08-18-2009, 09:42 PM	#146 (permalink)
DGirl101 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 57	I checked the comments and the site link posted in the above aforemented post. Apparently the person who wrote this is Deaf and has been since he was 20 years old. Now mind you, I can find humor in all sorts of things, even humor with being Deaf. However, the blog went beyond humor, it went straight through unfunny to downright cruel. I do not think he realizes that there are those out there that does have that kind of opinion of Deaf people, and there are crazies out there that will snap and do anything. This is only encouragement for that. There is nothing funny in that blog. Do you see me laughing Sir? I think not.

08-19-2009, 05:01 PM	#148 (permalink)
annadilynn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 17	if you were meaning to joke, it was inappropriately in very bad taste...and dude...it fell on deaf ears....no ones laughing....guess why....ITS NOT FLIPPIN FUNNY...GO BACK UNDER THE ROCK FROM WHICH YOU CRAWLED.