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Old 04-28-2008, 04:38 PM   #91 (permalink)
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First of all, nice to meet you, jillio. And about your reply, I don't know what CI means (I find it very difficult to understand abbreviations), but I suppose you mean the case is different with my friend because she managed to get integrated with hearing people.
Interesting idea, but no, she didn't. Maybe I'm being too harsh with her family, but, as a result of learning too late sign language and her poor oral language, the poor girl is isolated in her own family. I've seen her at home and the vision saddens me.
Her relationship with her parents is somewhat warm, but not enough, because they only talk to her for a brief moment and only say things like "did you get fun ?" "come back home early", etc. With her sister, things are worse, my friend doesn't have a very good level of lip reading and her sister is one of these people who (because of misterious reasons) don't vocalize. Picture the situation. I can hardly understand her (and I have rests of auditions, I usually talk with people face to face without problems), so imagine the problem with my friend, since she's totally deaf (even with the cochlear implant).
My friend, although she assures hearing everything, never understand people, even if they vocalize and talk properly, her syntax is really poor and acts a bit childish most of the time. So, sorry for her parents, they meant well, but they could have educated her far better. They love her deeply, but, as it's said sometimes, love isn't enough. That's just my opinion, of course, but I'm not the one that things so. Her teachers told me the same.
Nice to meet you as well. No I meant that the situations were different because one child was able to be implanted with a cochlear implant, and one wasn't. I was wondering if your friend's parents would have felt the same way about keeping her if she hadn't been able to have the cochlear implant, or if she had not been able to develop spoken language.
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:14 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Jeez! Well, the deaf kids that got unadopted are better off without those so called parents. Imagine how their lives would have been if they stayed. Hopefully they have resources to cope with this shit.
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:54 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Hi! It's me again. What Shel said, I know it's a very common situation (unfortunately), but as my parents are deaf, too, I still find very hard to understand why hearing parents refuse to learn Sign Language. My family aren't perfect, we argue quite a lot, but I sense there's closeness, no one is isolated, we always know what the other one is saying. So, excuse me for my naivety, I'm not used to that.
And, to come back to topic, returning adopted children because of deafness is maybe the best, as it's said on this thread, better than live with such parents who can't love someone only for a stupid disability, stupid because it doesn't prevent from loving and supporting you, it just hardens a bit the communication, but with some effort (the same as with any other foreign language or even easier than learning, for example, Chinese)that can also be achieved.
I don't exclude the possibility of adopting a child, and I would be glad to adopt a deaf child. At least, I can take care of him, not like these candidate to parents (if they can't love a child with disability, they'll never be good parentes, just my opinion).
Sorry if I'm being tedious. I'm not talkative at all in real life, due mainly to my deafness. I'll try to tell less nonsense next time. Bye, everyone!
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:20 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Hi! It's me again. What Shel said, I know it's a very common situation (unfortunately), but as my parents are deaf, too, I still find very hard to understand why hearing parents refuse to learn Sign Language. My family aren't perfect, we argue quite a lot, but I sense there's closeness, no one is isolated, we always know what the other one is saying. So, excuse me for my naivety, I'm not used to that.
And, to come back to topic, returning adopted children because of deafness is maybe the best, as it's said on this thread, better than live with such parents who can't love someone only for a stupid disability, stupid because it doesn't prevent from loving and supporting you, it just hardens a bit the communication, but with some effort (the same as with any other foreign language or even easier than learning, for example, Chinese)that can also be achieved.
I don't exclude the possibility of adopting a child, and I would be glad to adopt a deaf child. At least, I can take care of him, not like these candidate to parents (if they can't love a child with disability, they'll never be good parentes, just my opinion).
Sorry if I'm being tedious. I'm not talkative at all in real life, due mainly to my deafness. I'll try to tell less nonsense next time. Bye, everyone!
I didn't see any nonsense in your post. What you said made perfect sense. I agree with you. I don't understand why so many hearing parents refuse to learn sign language, either. I've heard all the standard excuses, so I know what they say is the reason. I just don't understand why a hearing parent would think that any excuse is justified. BTW, I'm a hearing parent of a deaf child.

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Old 05-01-2008, 11:07 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Oh geez! I feel sorry for the adopt deaf child and I hated those parents who adopted that deaf child then take it back to the adoption agency! What a cruel!!! Why didn't their parents of the deaf child to put down straight away??! It is the same concept when having disabled calf or deafness or blindness animal and put the disabled animals down straight away! It is discrimination! It makes me so angry!

One of my friend, she had a diamonian dog (white and black spots dog) and she is hearing dog then she birth to 8 beautiful puppies and found out there is one deaf puppy and the inspection wanted that puppy to put down so my friend was not that stupid and she knew that inspection will do secretly put the deaf puppy down so she told her off!!! She can speak in Russian language and her father had to translate into english for inspection to understand she was being said then she change to Russian sign language then sign language in our country. She said, "Deaf can access and CAN learn anything!" Then what happened? Inspection said ok that deaf puppy can live but must have desex!

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Old 05-09-2008, 11:44 AM   #96 (permalink)
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God has a special place for "people" like that.
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