Deaf culture - do's and don'ts, etc. Let's make a list! - Page 4

shel90 · 10-28-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaitin

Wow. They need education. I hope your husband understands and then teaches his parents.

My husband understands my deaf needs just fine..he yelled at his dad about the lights and his dad stopped. I dont let them get to me cuz they are not really educated about a lot of things in life anyway. Important I have my deaf friends and job for a healthy balance. If I was in that kind of environment 24/7, I wouldnt enjoy life much.

jillio · 10-28-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Another big issue is do not take over a situation that the deaf person is handling. This happened to me yesterday at my son's birthday party. My friend had to go so she left her kids with me at the party and her son was running in my in law's basement when he rammed his head in a nail (a small one) and cut it. He was bleeding out a lot so when he came up to the kitchen where I was I immediately took him in the bathroom. Once I got in there, my mother in law and husband came in and they were talking over each other and they took over. I was like "I got it...I will take care of him." They didnt hear or didnt listen to me cuz they were too busy talking to the others in the living room giving orders. So I screamed "I was fine taking care of him so get out of here!!" My husband said "There is no need to scream." but his mom wouldnt let me take care of MY friend's son whom I AM responsible for. I was soo pissed so I took all the kids, my daughter, son, and my friend's two kids home immediately without saying bye.

If a deaf person is taking care of a situation especially an emergency situation, ask if help is needed BUT DO NOT TAKE OVER as if the deaf person is inadequate.

Today I am not on speaking terms with my hubby and when he gets home, I will have a long talk with him about it. I left cuz I didnt want to make a scene.

My friend's son is fine..it was a small cut but boy did it bleed!! I was ready to take him to the ER last night.

Since you have 2 children of your own, I'm sure you already knew that head cuts, even very small ones, always bleed alot. So you did what you should have done....took him into the bathroom and cleaned him up to see how bad the cut really was. Your hubby and your mom-in-law not only insulted you, but by their noisy intrusion and taking over, they probably upset a kid that was already upset by being hurt even more. They were both out of line. You are a teacher, for god's sake...you are responsible for other people's children 5 days a week. And I'm sure if your friend didn't trust you to take care of her chidlren, she would not have left them with you!

I'm sorry that the situation had to interfere with your son's birthday party. That is a shame. If they had just let you get your friend's son cleaned up, and kissed the boo-boo, he most likely would have been right back downstairs playing with the other kids in 10 or 15 minutes, and the whole crisis would have been over and forgotten.

I hope you can get them to understand exactly how innappropriate their behavior was.

jillio · 10-28-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

My husband knows better not to do something like that. When he is around his mom, he is a little different. Had that happened at my house, he would have helped me instead of taking over. That is something I will need to address too but the point is his family has no clue about my deaf needs. There is another example at the party yesterday. My friend (before she left) and I were chatting in the kitchen and it started to get dark outside in which made it hard for us to see each other so I turned the lights on. My father in law yelled at me about turning the lights on...I told him that I needed it to be able to see. He was like "What do u need to see for?" I said "For communication." He still didnt get it and was bitching about the lights..I ignored him and just continued with my conversation with my friend. They have so much to learn..wow. His mom also expressed that I never call her..well when I do, she says "yes" "no" cuz she is nervous about talking to the relay so I told her that it is better to chat in person. Yet, she brings up about me not calling her...oh boy.

Me thinks hubby needs to sit down with mom and dad and give them a wake up call.

shel90 · 10-28-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Since you have 2 children of your own, I'm sure you already knew that head cuts, even very small ones, always bleed alot. So you did what you should have done....took him into the bathroom and cleaned him up to see how bad the cut really was. Your hubby and your mom-in-law not only insulted you, but by their noisy intrusion and taking over, they probably upset a kid that was already upset by being hurt even more. They were both out of line. You are a teacher, for god's sake...you are responsible for other people's children 5 days a week. And I'm sure if your friend didn't trust you to take care of her chidlren, she would not have left them with you!

I'm sorry that the situation had to interfere with your son's birthday party. That is a shame. If they had just let you get your friend's son cleaned up, and kissed the boo-boo, he most likely would have been right back downstairs playing with the other kids in 10 or 15 minutes, and the whole crisis would have been over and forgotten.

I hope you can get them to understand exactly how innappropriate their behavior was.

Yea, that is why I am not too crazy about going over to his parents' house. They are not willing to learn about my deaf needs. My son signs to them and they keep sayign that signing is interfering with his ability to talk and keep asking us when will he start talking. I said "NEVER!!!!" hahahahaha..They are nice people but VERY IGNORANT about a lot of things in general.

jillio · 10-28-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Yea, that is why I am not too crazy about going over to his parents' house. They are not willing to learn about my deaf needs. My son signs to them and they keep sayign that signing is interfering with his ability to talk and keep asking us when will he start talking. I said "NEVER!!!!" hahahahaha..They are nice people but VERY IGNORANT about a lot of things in general.

That has got to be frustrating for you! Next time they ask you when Nathan is going to talk, ask them, "When are you going to listen?" He is talking.....they jsut don't understand what he is saying!

shel90 · 10-28-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

That has got to be frustrating for you! Next time they ask you when Nathan is going to talk, ask them, "When are you going to listen?" He is talking.....they jsut don't understand what he is saying!

Good one..LOL! It doesnt frustrate me cuz I know that he will be fine but it frustrates them and if they want to make it their problem, they can but I wont make it my problem. I got other problems to worry about like the water leaking thru the foundation walls in my basement. Now, that is a problem I have to worry about first! GRRRR

jillio · 10-28-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Good one..LOL! It doesnt frustrate me cuz I know that he will be fine but it frustrates them and if they want to make it their problem, they can but I wont make it my problem. I got other problems to worry about like the water leaking thru the foundation walls in my basement. Now, that is a problem I have to worry about first! GRRRR

Exactly! If they can't understand him, then they need to do something so they can. Like maybe learn a little sign, duh! Wow....you ahve got a lot of things to deal with lately! Hang in there, girl!

Aimra · 10-28-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Its been my experience, Aima, that deaf signers are neither annoyed nor offended if you are truly making an attempt to communicate with them in their language. Quite the opposite, they are very patient and will go out of their way to help you learn and correct your mistakes. No need to be nervous.

Jillio. I've been trying to get up my nerves to go to a local deaf church. They have a community ASL night every Friday. I think maybe I'll try to go this week or next week!

I just need to practice signing things like "slow down please" or "I don't know a lot"!

jillio · 10-28-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimra

Jillio. I've been trying to get up my nerves to go to a local deaf church. They have a community ASL night every Friday. I think maybe I'll try to go this week or next week!

I just need to practice signing things like "slow down please" or "I don't know a lot"!

Sorry, don't understand. Again, please. All those were very helpful phrases when I was learning!

VanG · 10-28-2007, 03:32 PM

One time, somebody grab something sharp object and threw at my table when I was working with poor dog. It startled me and that dog. That person said I was trying to get your attention so what do you like to eat for lunch. I was like What the heck!!!!

I reported to Dr. J and explained to her about my deaf cultures. She doesn't accept that person throwing object at people. She added the policy that it is not acceptable to throw object at person while on clock. If someone did that, will take it into written up. I am glad Dr. J respected Deaf culture anyway.

DO NOT: Throw sharp object at person.

DO: go to that person and get attention.

Tousi · 10-28-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Good one..LOL! It doesnt frustrate me cuz I know that he will be fine but it frustrates them and if they want to make it their problem, they can but I wont make it my problem. I got other problems to worry about like the water leaking thru the foundation walls in my basement. Now, that is a problem I have to worry about first! GRRRR

Couldn't help noticing the issue about the basement walls; since you guys "recently" purchased this house, look into what buyer's warranty came with the house. In the meantime, what are you doing about this seepage?

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming....

Silentwolfdog · 10-28-2007, 06:14 PM

Hmm, there's one comment that annoy me a lot coming from hearing people.

It's "I have always wanted to learn sign language."

I was like "Huh? Why tell me? Just go and do it." (Of course I did not tell them that, I just nod and ignore that comment afterward.)

They have not realized that I have heard that comment so many time before...it's annoying since 80-90% of them are not being serious about it. They say it but it does not mean they will do it.

I also find that comment weird since so many Americans have never met deaf person, and yet they acted like they always wanted to learn sign language like it's something they wanted to learn their whole life.

shel90 · 10-28-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Couldn't help noticing the issue about the basement walls; since you guys "recently" purchased this house, look into what buyer's warranty came with the house. In the meantime, what are you doing about this seepage?

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming....

Yes, we bought a warranty..ok I will look into it! Thanks..been a busy weekend. My husband and I havent had the chance to discuss what we are going to do cuz we have been so busy. It has stopped raining so the leaks have stopped. I spent the day drying the basement out..it is fine now. It is unfinished so that's a good thing!

fredfam1 · 10-28-2007, 10:39 PM

My son signs to them and they keep sayign that signing is interfering with his ability to talk and keep asking us when will he start talking.

My relatives thought it was cool that I was teaching my kids sign
language but always worried that it would delay their speech.

1. no it does not. If anything it improves their speech!

2 AND with all the noise hearing kids make anyway, why
wouldnt you want them to sign instead of yaking all the time?
Geeeez! Of course this is a comment comming from someone
with 7 kids

I like the quiet

Shel, here is my experiance, whenever I tried to relate my
opinion to my husbands family about any issue, they would
always discount it. BUT when ever an issue came up, if I
had any type of written material about it they would read
it and go over it and discuss it later. Just a weird thing about
my family. 6 years ago I told my nephew that his newborn
son had food alergies and it was probably gluten. I gave
my reasons for this diagnoses and they just blew me off.
a year ago I gave them supporting documentation and they
took off with the information and his health problems
cleared up. I told them what the problem was 6 years ago
and six years he suffered with broken skin and skin infections
and awful stuff. Tottally unnecessary. Grrrrrrrr. I don't expect
people to just take my word, but as a parent you own your
child to search out and do everything you can for them. Why
do people get so lazy and not learn anything new?

megandeaf85 · 10-28-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I don't like it when someone throws an object at me to get my attention, that's rude and disrespectful. If someone trying to get my attention, it's more polite and respectful to come up and tab me on the shoulder.

I don't mind if anyone flick the lights to get my attention or stomp their feet.

I do not like when someone yells or shout while communicating with me, It's not gonna make me hear any better.

I don't like door slamming either, It annoys me.

agree!

jillio · 10-29-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Silentwolfdog

Hmm, there's one comment that annoy me a lot coming from hearing people.

It's "I have always wanted to learn sign language."

I was like "Huh? Why tell me? Just go and do it." (Of course I did not tell them that, I just nod and ignore that comment afterward.)

They have not realized that I have heard that comment so many time before...it's annoying since 80-90% of them are not being serious about it. They say it but it does not mean they will do it.

I also find that comment weird since so many Americans have never met deaf person, and yet they acted like they always wanted to learn sign language like it's something they wanted to learn their whole life.

Yes, I agree. That can be a very patronizing comment. Its like telling an Oriental person, "Oh, I just love Chinese food!", or telling a Latino, "I always wanted to learn Spanish!" All they are really doing is looking for a way to appear to be empathetic and understanding, but it comes across as patronizing.

InnocentOdion · 10-29-2007, 12:16 PM

Hmm, interesting view, but I disagree a little bit.

I say this kind of thing, but then again, I am a language lover and a food junkie. If I say something like, "I want to learn X" then it's because I do, it's usually a way of saying "Teach me some of the language you speak", and if I say "I love Chinese food", I'm usually hinting at something like "Teach me how to cook wontons".

You can't always rub people off under the same bush. There is a chance they are being sincere. A lot of the time they're just hinting, as they might think it seems rude to say 'can you teach me (something)?', although I might just try saying that from now on.

If it's someone who's just saying it to be "nice" though, yes. They deserve a slap.

I've learned a lot from this thread, and I can't wait to hear what else people say.

jillio · 10-29-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by InnocentOdion

Hmm, interesting view, but I disagree a little bit.

I say this kind of thing, but then again, I am a language lover and a food junkie. If I say something like, "I want to learn X" then it's because I do, it's usually a way of saying "Teach me some of the language you speak", and if I say "I love Chinese food", I'm usually hinting at something like "Teach me how to cook wontons".

You can't always rub people off under the same bush. There is a chance they are being sincere. A lot of the time they're just hinting, as they might think it seems rude to say 'can you teach me (something)?', although I might just try saying that from now on.

If it's someone who's just saying it to be "nice" though, yes. They deserve a slap.

I've learned a lot from this thread, and I can't wait to hear what else people say.

Agreed, not all. But those who are truly interested in learning a new skill will put forth the effort to do so when the opportunity is presented. That is where the weeding out process of those who truly want to learn, and those who are simply patroninzing comes in!

Dixie · 10-30-2007, 10:38 PM

I had quite a doozy yesterday at work from a FAMILY member of all people. I was sitting at the table waiting for us to be called in to work because Sanitation had not yet finished cleaning and so I had my headphones on and of course at max volume so I could hear it. Then my step-cousin comes and sits down and hears the music then she mouths something to me so I removed my headphones and asked her what she said then she rolled her eyes and said "Nothing - it's no wonder your deaf!"

I was like damn - why do you have to offend me for something I can't change. So I just replied - "We'll no wonder you're such a bitch!" since it was pretty evident her crudeness shown at full force the moment she said what she did. People around me know Im deaf and know why the music is that loud for the one ear that functions somewhat. I dont think people realized that I would stand up for myself in that manner. I just looked to the other girl beside me who had quite a puzzled look on her face and I said "She's family, I can get away with it." and walked off.

And thing was - it wasnt just ignorance - it was plain stupidity. The step-cousin in question KNOWS I am deaf and was born deaf - but she can be incredibly hateful and inconsiderate at times and often blames other people for her problems including me - which I dont worry about.

pek1 · 10-31-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Silentwolfdog

Hmm, there's one comment that annoy me a lot coming from hearing people.

It's "I have always wanted to learn sign language."

I was like "Huh? Why tell me? Just go and do it." (Of course I did not tell them that, I just nod and ignore that comment afterward.)

They have not realized that I have heard that comment so many time before...it's annoying since 80-90% of them are not being serious about it. They say it but it does not mean they will do it.

I also find that comment weird since so many Americans have never met deaf person, and yet they acted like they always wanted to learn sign language like it's something they wanted to learn their whole life.

You should see them at the shopping mall when Snickers and I walk in. Gee, I thought pointing with your finger was rude! Either that or they all had just picked their noses and wanted me to see!

"Gee, a hearing dog? What does she do for you?" I also consider that question patronizing and only respond, "She's my second set of ears." End of discussion and they're not embarrassed by a very nicely put smart ass answer!

jillio · 10-31-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

I had quite a doozy yesterday at work from a FAMILY member of all people. I was sitting at the table waiting for us to be called in to work because Sanitation had not yet finished cleaning and so I had my headphones on and of course at max volume so I could hear it. Then my step-cousin comes and sits down and hears the music then she mouths something to me so I removed my headphones and asked her what she said then she rolled her eyes and said "Nothing - it's no wonder your deaf!"

I was like damn - why do you have to offend me for something I can't change. So I just replied - "We'll no wonder you're such a bitch!" since it was pretty evident her crudeness shown at full force the moment she said what she did. People around me know Im deaf and know why the music is that loud for the one ear that functions somewhat. I dont think people realized that I would stand up for myself in that manner. I just looked to the other girl beside me who had quite a puzzled look on her face and I said "She's family, I can get away with it." and walked off.

And thing was - it wasnt just ignorance - it was plain stupidity. The step-cousin in question KNOWS I am deaf and was born deaf - but she can be incredibly hateful and inconsiderate at times and often blames other people for her problems including me - which I dont worry about.

You're my kind of gal, Dixie!

kimpossible · 10-31-2007, 01:12 AM

- this is more of a deaf/HoH sort of thing but I don't like it when, at a presentation of some sort, there is speech and signing but nothing else. Okay, great, thanks for the accommodating gesture but errm what if you don't know sign? I do know quite a bit of ASL but i suck at following sign that's not in a one-on-one conversation about as much as I suck at following speech outside of a one-on-one conversation.

- I really hate it when I'm at the dinner table and everyone is chatting amongst themselves, but they only speak clearly when they have something to say to me, specifically. so I'm just THERE... after a while people start to notice that I haven't been involved in the conversation and will say "so kim, how was your day?" A bit of small talk will ensue but then eventually they'll go back to talking over each other, quickly & unclearly. providing that I'm there, in the room, unless it's something they really don't want me to hear (in which case they usually whisper, anyway), I just kind of wish they'd make the extra effort to articulate properly. it's generally proper etiquette to just speak clearly, anyway.

- I hate being stared at when I'm signing to my other deaf friend in the caf at school or at a restaurant or something

- I don't like it when you've requested someone to speak clearly, take their hand away from their mouth, etc. but they still don't do it. like I have this Request for Accommodation form that all students with disabilities at my school fill out to provide to their instructors. I went over it twice with one of my teachers who still did nothing to change the way he communicates in class. Especially the pacing part, I must have reminded him at least 3 times that I can't follow him when he paces around the class (literally circles around the desks). He even said to me before he started reading this excerpt from a book once, "I may pace, is that okay?" ... was I supposed to say yes?! No, it's not okay, how about you just STOP PACING?

- It sort of bugs me (but I can deal with it) when people assume you need some kind of assistance even though you haven't told them that it's necessary. (ie. person finds out you're deaf and starts signing even though you're a skilled lipreader, or something along those lines.)

dreama · 11-02-2007, 04:40 PM

This is for deafblind people:

Do touch them gently to attract attention.
Do communicate in prefered medium ie Hands on sign language, Deafblind manual, Block capitals etc...
Do talk directly to deafblind person when and where possible.
Do tell a deafblind person when you are leaving as it's not nice to talk to someone and find they arn't actually there any more.

Do not:
Put deafblind person's hand to feel another person. I find it So embarrassing.
Do not insist on trying to speak to a deafblind person once they have made it clear that they cannot communicate via that method.
Do not discuss things with deafblind person's terp without including deafblind person themselves.
Do not atomatically assume that if the deafblind person sees sometimes and not at other times that they are 'just putting it on' or 'can see when they want to' They may just have fluctuating vision.
Do not try to lead a deafblind person who you think is in 'danger' without bothering to communicate with them first. They may not be in danger anyway. I was walking next to a canal and this person kept trying to guide me so I just sat down forcing them to make some sort of communication before they carried on guiding me as I didn't want to get lost. They were worried about me falling in the canal but that's what canes are for.

10-28-2007, 06:14 PM	#102 (permalink)
Silentwolfdog a toku fangirl Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 702	Hmm, there's one comment that annoy me a lot coming from hearing people. It's "I have always wanted to learn sign language." I was like "Huh? Why tell me? Just go and do it." (Of course I did not tell them that, I just nod and ignore that comment afterward.) They have not realized that I have heard that comment so many time before...it's annoying since 80-90% of them are not being serious about it. They say it but it does not mean they will do it. I also find that comment weird since so many Americans have never met deaf person, and yet they acted like they always wanted to learn sign language like it's something they wanted to learn their whole life. __________________ If you are using red or blue font, there's a good chance that I am not reading your posts due to it being blended into background! I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. ~Sarah William Check my art at http://silentwolfdog.deviantart.com

10-29-2007, 12:16 PM	#107 (permalink)
InnocentOdion HOH and learnin' sign! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England, United Kingdom Posts: 180	Hmm, interesting view, but I disagree a little bit. I say this kind of thing, but then again, I am a language lover and a food junkie. If I say something like, "I want to learn X" then it's because I do, it's usually a way of saying "Teach me some of the language you speak", and if I say "I love Chinese food", I'm usually hinting at something like "Teach me how to cook wontons". You can't always rub people off under the same bush. There is a chance they are being sincere. A lot of the time they're just hinting, as they might think it seems rude to say 'can you teach me (something)?', although I might just try saying that from now on. If it's someone who's just saying it to be "nice" though, yes. They deserve a slap. I've learned a lot from this thread, and I can't wait to hear what else people say. Last edited by InnocentOdion; 10-29-2007 at 12:18 PM. Reason: I pressed the button too early. Yarrrgh!

10-30-2007, 10:38 PM	#109 (permalink)
Dixie Hooray its November! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,199	I had quite a doozy yesterday at work from a FAMILY member of all people. I was sitting at the table waiting for us to be called in to work because Sanitation had not yet finished cleaning and so I had my headphones on and of course at max volume so I could hear it. Then my step-cousin comes and sits down and hears the music then she mouths something to me so I removed my headphones and asked her what she said then she rolled her eyes and said "Nothing - it's no wonder your deaf!" I was like damn - why do you have to offend me for something I can't change. So I just replied - "We'll no wonder you're such a bitch!" since it was pretty evident her crudeness shown at full force the moment she said what she did. People around me know Im deaf and know why the music is that loud for the one ear that functions somewhat. I dont think people realized that I would stand up for myself in that manner. I just looked to the other girl beside me who had quite a puzzled look on her face and I said "She's family, I can get away with it." and walked off. And thing was - it wasnt just ignorance - it was plain stupidity. The step-cousin in question KNOWS I am deaf and was born deaf - but she can be incredibly hateful and inconsiderate at times and often blames other people for her problems including me - which I dont worry about. __________________ Visit my Deaf Blog Signature banner created by me, please do not steal!

11-02-2007, 04:40 PM	#113 (permalink)
dreama deafblind vegan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,070	This is for deafblind people: Do touch them gently to attract attention. Do communicate in prefered medium ie Hands on sign language, Deafblind manual, Block capitals etc... Do talk directly to deafblind person when and where possible. Do tell a deafblind person when you are leaving as it's not nice to talk to someone and find they arn't actually there any more. Do not: Put deafblind person's hand to feel another person. I find it So embarrassing. Do not insist on trying to speak to a deafblind person once they have made it clear that they cannot communicate via that method. Do not discuss things with deafblind person's terp without including deafblind person themselves. Do not atomatically assume that if the deafblind person sees sometimes and not at other times that they are 'just putting it on' or 'can see when they want to' They may just have fluctuating vision. Do not try to lead a deafblind person who you think is in 'danger' without bothering to communicate with them first. They may not be in danger anyway. I was walking next to a canal and this person kept trying to guide me so I just sat down forcing them to make some sort of communication before they carried on guiding me as I didn't want to get lost. They were worried about me falling in the canal but that's what canes are for. __________________ I speak for those who cannot speak for themselves. http://www.fightfoca.com/

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10-28-2007, 03:32 PM	#100 (permalink)
VanG VanAlldeaf.com :) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 236	One time, somebody grab something sharp object and threw at my table when I was working with poor dog. It startled me and that dog. That person said I was trying to get your attention so what do you like to eat for lunch. I was like What the heck!!!! I reported to Dr. J and explained to her about my deaf cultures. She doesn't accept that person throwing object at people. She added the policy that it is not acceptable to throw object at person while on clock. If someone did that, will take it into written up. I am glad Dr. J respected Deaf culture anyway. DO NOT: Throw sharp object at person. DO: go to that person and get attention.

10-28-2007, 10:39 PM	#104 (permalink)
fredfam1 Cathe Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,023	My son signs to them and they keep sayign that signing is interfering with his ability to talk and keep asking us when will he start talking. My relatives thought it was cool that I was teaching my kids sign language but always worried that it would delay their speech. 1. no it does not. If anything it improves their speech! 2 AND with all the noise hearing kids make anyway, why wouldnt you want them to sign instead of yaking all the time? Geeeez! Of course this is a comment comming from someone with 7 kids I like the quiet Shel, here is my experiance, whenever I tried to relate my opinion to my husbands family about any issue, they would always discount it. BUT when ever an issue came up, if I had any type of written material about it they would read it and go over it and discuss it later. Just a weird thing about my family. 6 years ago I told my nephew that his newborn son had food alergies and it was probably gluten. I gave my reasons for this diagnoses and they just blew me off. a year ago I gave them supporting documentation and they took off with the information and his health problems cleared up. I told them what the problem was 6 years ago and six years he suffered with broken skin and skin infections and awful stuff. Tottally unnecessary. Grrrrrrrr. I don't expect people to just take my word, but as a parent you own your child to search out and do everything you can for them. Why do people get so lazy and not learn anything new?

10-31-2007, 01:12 AM	#112 (permalink)
kimpossible Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 180	- this is more of a deaf/HoH sort of thing but I don't like it when, at a presentation of some sort, there is speech and signing but nothing else. Okay, great, thanks for the accommodating gesture but errm what if you don't know sign? I do know quite a bit of ASL but i suck at following sign that's not in a one-on-one conversation about as much as I suck at following speech outside of a one-on-one conversation. - I really hate it when I'm at the dinner table and everyone is chatting amongst themselves, but they only speak clearly when they have something to say to me, specifically. so I'm just THERE... after a while people start to notice that I haven't been involved in the conversation and will say "so kim, how was your day?" A bit of small talk will ensue but then eventually they'll go back to talking over each other, quickly & unclearly. providing that I'm there, in the room, unless it's something they really don't want me to hear (in which case they usually whisper, anyway), I just kind of wish they'd make the extra effort to articulate properly. it's generally proper etiquette to just speak clearly, anyway. - I hate being stared at when I'm signing to my other deaf friend in the caf at school or at a restaurant or something - I don't like it when you've requested someone to speak clearly, take their hand away from their mouth, etc. but they still don't do it. like I have this Request for Accommodation form that all students with disabilities at my school fill out to provide to their instructors. I went over it twice with one of my teachers who still did nothing to change the way he communicates in class. Especially the pacing part, I must have reminded him at least 3 times that I can't follow him when he paces around the class (literally circles around the desks). He even said to me before he started reading this excerpt from a book once, "I may pace, is that okay?" ... was I supposed to say yes?! No, it's not okay, how about you just STOP PACING? - It sort of bugs me (but I can deal with it) when people assume you need some kind of assistance even though you haven't told them that it's necessary. (ie. person finds out you're deaf and starts signing even though you're a skilled lipreader, or something along those lines.)