Deaf culture - do's and don'ts, etc. Let's make a list! - Page 12

jillio · 04-26-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by InnocentOdion

Eww, what if they have clammy sweaty hands?

I understand why they used these techniques. Shame they aren't always (some people are better with this type of learning than others I guess) effective though.

How, exactly, does the peanut butter thing work? Hm. I can't imagine how it would be used. I'd've put weight on during the lessons though.

It works if you want a horse or a dog to move their mouth so it looks like they are talking on film, but for people? I seriously doubt it!

jillio · 04-26-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Speaking of speech therapy, I had this speech teacher in middle school who had this horrible breath..she would put her face close to mine and show me how to say some words. All I could think was trying not to puke!!!

LOL! Can you say, "breath mint"?

Matilda · 04-26-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

LOL! Can you say, "breath mint"?

Pepsi · 04-26-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by InnocentOdion

Eww, what if they have clammy sweaty hands?

I understand why they used these techniques. Shame they aren't always (some people are better with this type of learning than others I guess) effective though.

How, exactly, does the peanut butter thing work? Hm. I can't imagine how it would be used. I'd've put weight on during the lessons though.

Well the way it was done to me was the speech teacher would take a small amount of peanut butter, and stick it behind my front teeth, then I would pratice taking my tongue to say words like love, life,lip,lumber and other words, I do remember leaving the class and going to the water fountain because I would be so thisty.

InnocentOdion · 04-27-2008, 03:43 AM

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Well the way it was done to me was the speech teacher would take a small amount of peanut butter, and stick it behind my front teeth, then I would pratice taking my tongue to say words like love, life,lip,lumber and other words, I do remember leaving the class and going to the water fountain because I would be so thisty.

Ohh, for sounds that use your tongue hitting against (the "alveolar ridge" as we learned it in uni)/roof of your mouth (l, t, d, n, etc)?

That must've irritated the buggery out of you. What if you don't like peanut butter? Eck.

Pepsi · 04-27-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by InnocentOdion

Ohh, for sounds that use your tongue hitting against (the "alveolar ridge" as we learned it in uni)/roof of your mouth (l, t, d, n, etc)?

That must've irritated the buggery out of you. What if you don't like peanut butter? Eck.

Yes, you are right and I didn't have a problem with peanut butter,I didn't know any kids that didn't like peanut butter.

shel90 · 04-27-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Lover

Well the way it was done to me was the speech teacher would take a small amount of peanut butter, and stick it behind my front teeth, then I would pratice taking my tongue to say words like love, life,lip,lumber and other words, I do remember leaving the class and going to the water fountain because I would be so thisty.

Geez! I have never experienced the peanut butter lesson. I can imagine that it would make u so thirsty!

Pepsi · 04-27-2008, 11:55 AM

Shel, Do you know if Baltimore City Schools still use peanut butter in the speech classes or are they doing someting different?When I went to school it was early 70s.

shel90 · 04-27-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Lover

Shel, Do you know if Baltimore City Schools still use peanut butter in the speech classes or are they doing someting different?When I went to school it was early 70s.

I think that has been outlawed cuz of issues with peanut butter allergies. I can check into it.

Pepsi · 04-27-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I think that has been outlawed cuz of issues with peanut butter allergies. I can check into it.

Oh, o.k. that would be great. thanks Shel.

Dixie · 05-01-2008, 08:43 PM

NEVER as a hearing person say 'Oh Im deaf too and I know signs!' when the truth is you don't because you WILL get busted and you WILL be humiliated publicly. I had this happen today. I mentioned the reason why I do not hear well is because I am profoundly deaf in left ear and HOH in my right ear, and the girl next to me says - 'Oh! Im deaf too! That loud machine is making it hard to hear.' And this is coming from a fully hearing person that was fine and functional right up until that point. Then she insisted that we 'sign' with each other. I ended up having to explain all my signs to her. UGH. Thank God tomorrow is the last day I have to work with her for a while.

JClarke · 05-01-2008, 08:44 PM

Lets just rule the world as deaf world!

August · 05-06-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jclarke

Lets just rule the world as deaf world!

Deaf World sounds like a theme park. do they have a 35-loop roller coaster?

FrancisM · 06-16-2008, 09:56 PM

What flat out pisses me off me is that since I choose not to place myself in situations where I could not understand what the hell is going on and as a result end up feeling like and looking like a idiot, people never invite me anywhere to do ANYTHING with them!!! Look, A**holes, I don't want to go to the club or where the music is so loud that I cannot hear anything at all much less UNDERSTAND. I wear hearing aids, true! however, I cannot do that marvelous trick of focusing my hearing on a single persons voice in a crowded/loud club or bar. Trust me, if I could...I WOULD! Another thing! No! I am not going to go to a Party out in the woods or in a field after dark where the only light to be had is scattered camping fires (if that!)

Does not mean that I would not enjoy myself at your bbq or a subdued house party or even going and hanging out at the lake/park/quiet well lit neighborhood bar.

Dammit, I thought I would feel better after ranting, now I am just pissy...

Silenthand · 06-20-2008, 10:24 PM

Sound Like so many hearing are here ! Of course, Welcome AD here ...

coolgirlspyer90 · 07-16-2008, 01:42 AM

1) Don't EVER forget to take off your hearing aid and cochlear implant when you're going swimming, going in the shower, going to a water park. (i accidently got my hearing aid wet like a few times when i was little with my old hearing aid. and one time this year with my new hearing aid..oops)
2) Don't make fun of deaf people.
3) Don't talk like you're talking to a crazy person. if you know wat i mean for lip-reading from hearing people. It annoys me alot. because they're opening their mouth widely and i'm trying to read what they're trying to tell me.
4) Do: ask me to learn sign language from me, it might help for a hearing person if they're trying to tell me something when i have my 'ears' off.
5) do: write something down on a piece of paper if my ears are off.
6) Do: go up to me and tap me on the shoulder if i don't have your attention. Mostly because they're waving at me trying to get my attention or baming on the tables. it does get annoying.
7) Do: be careful with your hearing devices. Alot of times people forget where they put them, or their dog chews on them, or its being dropped on the floor.

oh a couple more don'ts..lol.
8) don't use your implant during gym...if you're doing dogeball in gym it will totally hurt...happened to me one time by accident. I take off my implant during gym. and the softball hitted me on my implant spot..and 2 times on my face last year..espically on my nose but luckly no bleeding!
9) don't shake my bed to wake me up because it scares the hell out of me like there is going to be a tornado, a earthquake, a fire, or someone is breaking in the house. I would rather if you try and touch my shoulder and tap on me or turn on the light.

pek1 · 07-17-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by deafbajagal

Mine did too. (GRRR.) Over the years, they resorted to shaking my head, holding my jaw tight to try to manipulate it to move, put their hands on my lips (GROSS), put my hand on my throat (as if that ever works, gimme a break, folks...feeling throat vibrations doesn't help), blowing tissues to show the nonplosive and plosive sounds (rolling eyes), making me look at myself in the mirror while imitating lip movements, etc.

One of my pet peeves is when people have the galls to correct a way that I say a word (for example, "peet sa" instead of "pezza" for pizza). Pffft. No matter how hard I try...I will never speak perfect like a hearing person...because I'M NOT A HEARING PERSON!!!!! Peanut butter, anyone? It tastes good and will make you talk like Mr. Ed the horse.

I pronounce it as peet sa. If other people don't like it, then I suggest they sue me. By the way, I've never been corrected on it and wouldn't change . . . who are they to say how the word is actually pronounced?

Dixie · 07-20-2008, 08:34 PM

Another pet peeve - a couple here suspect their toddler son is mentally retarded and they have him enrolled into a special needs program.

From what I gather it sounds more like he is deaf rather than mentally disable. They say that he will not respond to them unless they are directly in front of him or tap his shoulder. He has not learned to talk yet, and he has trouble walking.

They haven't even taken him to an audiologist yet for testing on his hearing. However they do use signs with him, but not fluently. Only words like potty, hungry, sleepy, want, etc.

As a hoh/deafie, I will try to make contact with this couple and tell them from personal experience not to completely rule out deafness until they have a confirmation from an audiologist that his hearing is fine. My fear is that if someone doesnt step in that this boy will be delayed severely in language and spend the rest of his life struggling to communicate when in fact he has a clear mind, he just hasnt been given the tools to express himself.

I'm sure Shel and Jillio would love to have a field day with this couple.

deafskeptic · 07-20-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

NEVER as a hearing person say 'Oh Im deaf too and I know signs!' when the truth is you don't because you WILL get busted and you WILL be humiliated publicly. I had this happen today. I mentioned the reason why I do not hear well is because I am profoundly deaf in left ear and HOH in my right ear, and the girl next to me says - 'Oh! Im deaf too! That loud machine is making it hard to hear.' And this is coming from a fully hearing person that was fine and functional right up until that point. Then she insisted that we 'sign' with each other. I ended up having to explain all my signs to her. UGH. Thank God tomorrow is the last day I have to work with her for a while.

OI. She sounds like a mental case too.

orione1even · 07-22-2008, 04:23 PM

I just wanted to say, as a hearing person who is new to deaf and hoh culture, thank you for this very thoughtful and informative thread!

frogsign · 07-22-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Liza

Do be willing to write back and forth with me, if you need to tell me something and don't know signs for it.

Do not "dismiss" or give up on us if we don't understand what you are saying. This is annoying.

So, don't be afraid to try pen and paper if you need THAT to express yourself or understand others. You do it for YOU as well as for me.

Never, never ever rely on a third party to interpret if they are not paid or seem unwilling. Get a clue and take responsiblity for your own communication with a Deaf person. For example, a married couple - hearing and deaf, and the inlaws always bother the hearing spouse to interpret everything for the deaf spouse. This can be annoying and piss off the "interpreter." It shows a lack of interest in trying to communicate with the deaf spouse, and it creates resentment in the hearing spouse.

Never ask a child to interpret for his or her parents if his/her parents don't want them to be in that role.

Good stuff!!!

pek1 · 07-22-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by orione1even

I just wanted to say, as a hearing person who is new to deaf and hoh culture, thank you for this very thoughtful and informative thread!

You're welcome! Hey Alex, send this guy a bill!!

Bottesini · 07-22-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by orione1even

I just wanted to say, as a hearing person who is new to deaf and hoh culture, thank you for this very thoughtful and informative thread!

Go check this link. You will find it even more informative.

http://www.alldeaf.com/our-world-our...t-hearies.html

Grummer · 08-25-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

I had quite a doozy yesterday at work from a FAMILY member of all people. I was sitting at the table waiting for us to be called in to work because Sanitation had not yet finished cleaning and so I had my headphones on and of course at max volume so I could hear it. Then my step-cousin comes and sits down and hears the music then she mouths something to me so I removed my headphones and asked her what she said then she rolled her eyes and said "Nothing - it's no wonder your deaf!"

I was like damn - why do you have to offend me for something I can't change. So I just replied - "We'll no wonder you're such a bitch!" since it was pretty evident her crudeness shown at full force the moment she said what she did. People around me know Im deaf and know why the music is that loud for the one ear that functions somewhat. I dont think people realized that I would stand up for myself in that manner. I just looked to the other girl beside me who had quite a puzzled look on her face and I said "She's family, I can get away with it." and walked off.

And thing was - it wasnt just ignorance - it was plain stupidity. The step-cousin in question KNOWS I am deaf and was born deaf - but she can be incredibly hateful and inconsiderate at times and often blames other people for her problems including me - which I dont worry about.

your step-cousin needs to be on the death row, we have no time for shit people like that

Hear Again · 10-12-2008, 01:38 AM

When initiating communication with a deafblind person, try to get their attention first by calling their name. If they don't respond, situate yourself in front of them and then wave your hand. If you still don't get a response, gently place one of your hands underneath the deafblind person's hand for tactile sign.

04-27-2008, 11:55 AM	#338 (permalink)
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Dixie Hooray its November! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,199	NEVER as a hearing person say 'Oh Im deaf too and I know signs!' when the truth is you don't because you WILL get busted and you WILL be humiliated publicly. I had this happen today. I mentioned the reason why I do not hear well is because I am profoundly deaf in left ear and HOH in my right ear, and the girl next to me says - 'Oh! Im deaf too! That loud machine is making it hard to hear.' And this is coming from a fully hearing person that was fine and functional right up until that point. Then she insisted that we 'sign' with each other. I ended up having to explain all my signs to her. UGH. Thank God tomorrow is the last day I have to work with her for a while. __________________ Visit my Deaf Blog Signature banner created by me, please do not steal!

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Dixie Hooray its November! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,199	Another pet peeve - a couple here suspect their toddler son is mentally retarded and they have him enrolled into a special needs program. From what I gather it sounds more like he is deaf rather than mentally disable. They say that he will not respond to them unless they are directly in front of him or tap his shoulder. He has not learned to talk yet, and he has trouble walking. They haven't even taken him to an audiologist yet for testing on his hearing. However they do use signs with him, but not fluently. Only words like potty, hungry, sleepy, want, etc. As a hoh/deafie, I will try to make contact with this couple and tell them from personal experience not to completely rule out deafness until they have a confirmation from an audiologist that his hearing is fine. My fear is that if someone doesnt step in that this boy will be delayed severely in language and spend the rest of his life struggling to communicate when in fact he has a clear mind, he just hasnt been given the tools to express himself. I'm sure Shel and Jillio would love to have a field day with this couple. __________________ Visit my Deaf Blog Signature banner created by me, please do not steal!

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06-16-2008, 09:56 PM	#344 (permalink)
FrancisM Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 13	What flat out pisses me off me is that since I choose not to place myself in situations where I could not understand what the hell is going on and as a result end up feeling like and looking like a idiot, people never invite me anywhere to do ANYTHING with them!!! Look, A*holes, I don't want to go to the club or where the music is so loud that I cannot hear anything at all much less UNDERSTAND. I wear hearing aids, true! however, I cannot do that marvelous* trick of focusing my hearing on a single persons voice in a crowded/loud club or bar. Trust me, if I could...I WOULD! Another thing! No! I am not going to go to a Party out in the woods or in a field after dark where the only light to be had is scattered camping fires (if that!) Does not mean that I would not enjoy myself at your bbq or a subdued house party or even going and hanging out at the lake/park/quiet well lit neighborhood bar. Dammit, I thought I would feel better after ranting, now I am just pissy...

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coolgirlspyer90 Music is my life. Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 516	1) Don't EVER forget to take off your hearing aid and cochlear implant when you're going swimming, going in the shower, going to a water park. (i accidently got my hearing aid wet like a few times when i was little with my old hearing aid. and one time this year with my new hearing aid..oops) 2) Don't make fun of deaf people. 3) Don't talk like you're talking to a crazy person. if you know wat i mean for lip-reading from hearing people. It annoys me alot. because they're opening their mouth widely and i'm trying to read what they're trying to tell me. 4) Do: ask me to learn sign language from me, it might help for a hearing person if they're trying to tell me something when i have my 'ears' off. 5) do: write something down on a piece of paper if my ears are off. 6) Do: go up to me and tap me on the shoulder if i don't have your attention. Mostly because they're waving at me trying to get my attention or baming on the tables. it does get annoying. 7) Do: be careful with your hearing devices. Alot of times people forget where they put them, or their dog chews on them, or its being dropped on the floor. oh a couple more don'ts..lol. 8) don't use your implant during gym...if you're doing dogeball in gym it will totally hurt...happened to me one time by accident. I take off my implant during gym. and the softball hitted me on my implant spot..and 2 times on my face last year..espically on my nose but luckly no bleeding! 9) don't shake my bed to wake me up because it scares the hell out of me like there is going to be a tornado, a earthquake, a fire, or someone is breaking in the house. I would rather if you try and touch my shoulder and tap on me or turn on the light.

07-22-2008, 04:23 PM	#350 (permalink)
orione1even Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 137	I just wanted to say, as a hearing person who is new to deaf and hoh culture, thank you for this very thoughtful and informative thread!