Deaf culture - do's and don'ts, etc. Let's make a list! - Page 11

Chase · 01-26-2008, 02:13 PM

These posts don't always affect me, but all are interesting glimpses into our complex deaf culture.

One item miffing me no end is people sending talking-head and music videos. Some are even HOH friends. Most are clueless to total deafness. When I tell them the video made no sense, please write out what you want me to get from it, they either ignore the request or say something like, "Oops, forgot."

Some will say, even though it's not captioned, it's entertaining without them, and you'll enjoy one of the hand signs.

NO. There's usually very little to enjoy when you have no idea what sound is involved. To me it's 3-5 minutes of aimless hand-fluttering. How am I supposed to guess which one is a sign?

Ha ha ha, I have been retaliating. To some repeaters I send an uncaptioned video of a joke in sign language. The more dead-pan the teller, the better. I say it's hilarious and even if you don't know sign, you'll get the message.

They never do, but I'm hoping they'll get my message.

jillio · 01-26-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

Dixie, that would make my jaw drop in disbelief IF I hadn't been the victim of a plethora of junk thrown at me and past me because some idiot hearie (never a deafie) was too lazy to walk a few feet or yards to tap me. Some people!

My recent brush with the unthinking was at church. A lady bubbled up to me after Mass. After several tries to calm her, saying I was trying to read her lips, I got that she thought it would be a wonderful thing if I could sign the songs and homily for everyone during Mass, like on TV.

I just stared a moment, trying to review if I'd missed something. Finally, I said I couldn't hear.

She just smiled and wagged a finger at me (the "where" sign, and I remembered thinking "Where is your brain?"). She chided, "Well, others can't hear, either, and you should think of them."

I'm sure she's going around saying how that deaf man only thinks of himself.

Sometimes the best response is to simply say, "You are correct. I am a very thoughtless and selfish perosn." and go on, LOL. Simplifies things a great deal!

Chase · 01-26-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Sometimes the best response is to simply say, "You are correct. I am a very thoughtless and selfish perosn." and go on, LOL. Simplifies things a great deal!

You're right, Jillio. My problem is too much time usually goes by and the person is gone before I have time to respond with the proper sarcasm.

Ha ha ha, even while I'm standing there nodding my head like one of those figurines of a dog in the back window of a Chevy, I'm often still trying to make sense of the few words I recognized on the speaker's lips.

But thanks to this thread, I'm packing better ammunition, ha ha.

jillio · 01-26-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

You're right, Jillio. My problem is too much time usually goes by and the person is gone before I have time to respond with the proper sarcasm.

Ha ha ha, even while I'm standing there nodding my head like one of those figurines of a dog in the back window of a Chevy, I'm often still trying to make sense of the few words I recognized on the speaker's lips.

But thanks to this thread, I'm packing better ammunition, ha ha.

LOL! The degree of studpidity does have the power to stun!

Dixie · 01-26-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by InnocentOdion

Seems as though because people are Deaf it's okay to throw pencils, pens, blunt or sharp knives, pieces of raw chicken, probably including compost, stamp their feet, mess with hearing aids of cochlear implants, SHOUT REALLY LOUDLY, and O--VER---EM-PHA-SI---ZE THE WO----RDS WHEN THEY ARE TA--LKING TO--- YOU---.

This happened again yesterday at work. What did I do? Threw a huge breast fillet back at the guy and got him square in the face, lol

He didnt throw another thing at me the rest of the day.

InnocentOdion · 01-27-2008, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

They know it's not right. They are just too lazy to do right thing.

Unfortunately I have to agree. It boils down to laziness or stupidness. Often both!

InnocentOdion · 01-27-2008, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

This happened again yesterday at work. What did I do? Threw a huge breast fillet back at the guy and got him square in the face, lol

He didnt throw another thing at me the rest of the day.

Nice shot!

jasin · 02-17-2008, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IslandGal

Good thread here!!

Oh I hate it if someone throws a dangerous object at me. Once a friend threw a pen at me and know where the pointed end landed? Right in between of my eyes. I said OW and reached my hand up to where it had hurt. I then saw some blood on my hand and looked at my friend whose eyes were wide open. I then went to look in a mirror, seeing that I looked so horrible with blood running down my nose. I told my friend what if it had landed right into my eye?! Thank goodness, it didn't.

This girl in my math class threw an eraser at me, so i picked it up and threw it back at her. I think she got the point not to throw anything at me again after she had to duck the earser because I threw it at her so hard

jasin · 02-17-2008, 04:51 AM

I got another one. Dont get mad at me or frustrated with me when I dont know a sign for something. Oh, and dont tell me I should know every sign there is. I am not a linguist, scholar, and I dont have a phd in Asl.

jasin · 02-17-2008, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsiwoman

I hate it when someone is talking to me and that person know about my hearing and the person would turn their head so i can`t see their lips.

What about those who put their hands over their mouths so you can't see them talking?

That's very rude, even if done to hearing people.

BlinkPlane · 02-17-2008, 12:14 PM

Would anyone know a place where they would have definition of deaf terms?
And could you make a list of all the do's and don'ts? That would be very helpful.

Pepsi · 02-18-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

What about those who put their hands over their mouths so you can't see them talking?

That's very rude, even if done to hearing people.

I hate it when people do that.

cterry7799 · 04-06-2008, 03:54 PM

I hate it when I am in class, and everytime before a test, suddenly all the hearing people want to know if I can send them a copy of my "notes" (the transcripts for the class session that my typewell captionist has taken). Actually what they do is ask my captionist if they can pay him for a copy before they ask me. He of course says he's not allowed to do that, but they can ask me if I want to share a copy. Usually for the first test I oblige, but by the time the second test comes I know who the users are and who are the people that genuinely are interested in studying together or sharing notes. The last test I sent copies of my transcripts to like 4 people. One of them thanked me for sending them and then shared her fill in the blank study sheet that the professor had given us. The others I never heard from at all...not even an email to say thank you. One girl said thanks verbally sometime after. And this boy who never said thank you or even acknowledged receiving them the first time had the audacity to ask if I would send him the notes again. I smiled and nodded and acted as if I had no idea what he was saying. Then he EMAILED me to ask(replied to the first copy of the notes I sent him so obviously he got them). Wow, I can't believe people! I go to class and I take notes by hand like everyone else. I read the teachers lips and I participate in the class discussions. My transcripts are more for a back up for anything that I have missed. They are not the ultimate study guide that enable me to get good grades without ever reading a book or taking notes or participating in the class. Anybody else ever had such problems? How do I politely explain that I don't want to participate in a one way sharing of notes?

jillio · 04-06-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cterry7799

I hate it when I am in class, and everytime before a test, suddenly all the hearing people want to know if I can send them a copy of my "notes" (the transcripts for the class session that my typewell captionist has taken). Actually what they do is ask my captionist if they can pay him for a copy before they ask me. He of course says he's not allowed to do that, but they can ask me if I want to share a copy. Usually for the first test I oblige, but by the time the second test comes I know who the users are and who are the people that genuinely are interested in studying together or sharing notes. The last test I sent copies of my transcripts to like 4 people. One of them thanked me for sending them and then shared her fill in the blank study sheet that the professor had given us. The others I never heard from at all...not even an email to say thank you. One girl said thanks verbally sometime after. And this boy who never said thank you or even acknowledged receiving them the first time had the audacity to ask if I would send him the notes again. I smiled and nodded and acted as if I had no idea what he was saying. Then he EMAILED me to ask(replied to the first copy of the notes I sent him so obviously he got them). Wow, I can't believe people! I go to class and I take notes by hand like everyone else. I read the teachers lips and I participate in the class discussions. My transcripts are more for a back up for anything that I have missed. They are not the ultimate study guide that enable me to get good grades without ever reading a book or taking notes or participating in the class. Anybody else ever had such problems? How do I politely explain that I don't want to participate in a one way sharing of notes?

Just politely tell them that you are forbidden from distributing transcripts by the disability services office, but you'll be happy to share your CI with them if they think it will help.

Raykat · 04-08-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Just politely tell them that you are forbidden from distributing transcripts by the disability services office, but you'll be happy to share your CI with them if they think it will help.

My response would be a more direct "get lost loser"

jillio · 04-08-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Raykat

My response would be a more direct "get lost loser"

That would work, too.

Matilda · 04-08-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

LOL! The degree of stupidity does have the power to stun!

Yes! it does, too ... I'm usually left like a stunned mullet!

jillio · 04-08-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozzie

Yes! it does, too ... I'm usually left like a stunned mullet!

Mouth open, big eyes, and a blank stare?

Dixie · 04-10-2008, 08:03 PM

Or how about those people wo think you've got it easy because you have your own 'personal notetaker'.

uhhhhh not quite mate.........

August · 04-12-2008, 06:53 PM

i see that my extremely accurate and helpful list of do's and don't's has been removed.

WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS!?

Pepsi · 04-25-2008, 04:06 PM

I wish hearies would stop playing speech therapist.This is what happen and in a way it's sort of my fault.I was trying to talk about Oscar De La Hoya, the problem is I can't say Oscar De La Hoya. Well this one guy in front of a bunch of people made a big deal out of it. So he kept trying to teach me to say it right,I was so

and

He would not let up.(I was surpise he didn't bring out the peanut butter, that was something I had to do in speech class) Well anyway, that is for the list of do's and don't. Stop playing speech therapist.

***VamPyroX*** · 04-25-2008, 04:20 PM

Don't go around saying "Deaf Power!" Doing so makes you no different than those KKK members going around saying "White Power!"

Chase · 04-25-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Lover

I wish hearies would stop playing speech therapist.This is what happen and in a way it's sort of my fault.I was trying to talk about Oscar De La Hoya, the problem is I can't say Oscar De La Hoya. Well this one guy in front of a bunch of people made a big deal out of it. So he kept trying to teach me to say it right,I was so

and

He would not let up.(I was surpise he didn't bring out the peanut butter, that was something I had to do in speech class) Well anyway, that is for the list of do's and don't. Stop playing speech therapist.

Good "don't," Pepsi Lover. I've only been totally deaf seven years, but I have lots of trouble with new names. Oregon is full of 'em. I can see by funny looks I've mispronounced a name, and you're right--some self-styled speech therapists takes on the task to teach the dummy. "It's easy! It's the Umpqua Bank in Multnomah Falls. Say it." If I try, it's big laughs for the hearies, and just like you said it goes on and on.

One such character is my girlfriend's in-law once removed, so we set him up. I murdered "Clackamas," another town name. When he wanted to teach me, I said first learn this sign and flashed "Perfect asshole, me." I made him try it again and again until he could sign it perfectly. It took a long time until the punch line. Sometimes revenge is so sweet.

Matilda · 04-25-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

One such character is my girlfriend's in-law once removed, so we set him up. I murdered "Clackamas," another town name. When he wanted to teach me, I said first learn this sign and flashed "Perfect asshole, me." I made him try it again and again until he could sign it perfectly. It took a long time until the punch line. Sometimes revenge is so sweet.

... good one, Chase, got him! ...

Dixie · 04-25-2008, 09:13 PM

This may be a repeat BUT I hate when you've missed a bit of important information and you ask to have it repeated and when they do they roll their eyes like - "If you listened you would have gotten it."

Another thing is when someone takes it upon themselves to be your babysitter because your deaf. I finally told a co-worker point blank - "I dont need a f------ babysitter and I d--- sure don't need it coming from you. Let me make one thing clear right now - I am DEAF not dumb."

Miss-Delectable · 04-26-2008, 09:42 AM

Is that legal using peanut butter as a mean of teaching one's speech?

Bet that would have been disallowed today due to allergic kids.

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Pepsi The One and Only Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 3,406	I wish hearies would stop playing speech therapist.This is what happen and in a way it's sort of my fault.I was trying to talk about Oscar De La Hoya, the problem is I can't say Oscar De La Hoya. Well this one guy in front of a bunch of people made a big deal out of it. So he kept trying to teach me to say it right,I was so and He would not let up.(I was surpise he didn't bring out the peanut butter, that was something I had to do in speech class) Well anyway, that is for the list of do's and don't. Stop playing speech therapist. __________________

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Dixie Hooray its November! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,199	This may be a repeat BUT I hate when you've missed a bit of important information and you ask to have it repeated and when they do they roll their eyes like - "If you listened you would have gotten it." Another thing is when someone takes it upon themselves to be your babysitter because your deaf. I finally told a co-worker point blank - "I dont need a f------ babysitter and I d--- sure don't need it coming from you. Let me make one thing clear right now - I am DEAF not dumb." __________________ Visit my Deaf Blog Signature banner created by me, please do not steal!

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Miss-Delectable Capt Tony Nelson, Jeannie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: No.1 Shopping Capital in Australia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 3	Is that legal using peanut butter as a mean of teaching one's speech? Bet that would have been disallowed today due to allergic kids. __________________

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Chase Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,316	These posts don't always affect me, but all are interesting glimpses into our complex deaf culture. One item miffing me no end is people sending talking-head and music videos. Some are even HOH friends. Most are clueless to total deafness. When I tell them the video made no sense, please write out what you want me to get from it, they either ignore the request or say something like, "Oops, forgot." Some will say, even though it's not captioned, it's entertaining without them, and you'll enjoy one of the hand signs. NO. There's usually very little to enjoy when you have no idea what sound is involved. To me it's 3-5 minutes of aimless hand-fluttering. How am I supposed to guess which one is a sign? Ha ha ha, I have been retaliating. To some repeaters I send an uncaptioned video of a joke in sign language. The more dead-pan the teller, the better. I say it's hilarious and even if you don't know sign, you'll get the message. They never do, but I'm hoping they'll get my message.

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02-17-2008, 04:51 AM	#309 (permalink)
jasin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 779	I got another one. Dont get mad at me or frustrated with me when I dont know a sign for something. Oh, and dont tell me I should know every sign there is. I am not a linguist, scholar, and I dont have a phd in Asl.

02-17-2008, 12:14 PM	#311 (permalink)
BlinkPlane Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1	Would anyone know a place where they would have definition of deaf terms? And could you make a list of all the do's and don'ts? That would be very helpful.

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cterry7799 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CSUN Posts: 17	I hate it when I am in class, and everytime before a test, suddenly all the hearing people want to know if I can send them a copy of my "notes" (the transcripts for the class session that my typewell captionist has taken). Actually what they do is ask my captionist if they can pay him for a copy before they ask me. He of course says he's not allowed to do that, but they can ask me if I want to share a copy. Usually for the first test I oblige, but by the time the second test comes I know who the users are and who are the people that genuinely are interested in studying together or sharing notes. The last test I sent copies of my transcripts to like 4 people. One of them thanked me for sending them and then shared her fill in the blank study sheet that the professor had given us. The others I never heard from at all...not even an email to say thank you. One girl said thanks verbally sometime after. And this boy who never said thank you or even acknowledged receiving them the first time had the audacity to ask if I would send him the notes again. I smiled and nodded and acted as if I had no idea what he was saying. Then he EMAILED me to ask(replied to the first copy of the notes I sent him so obviously he got them). Wow, I can't believe people! I go to class and I take notes by hand like everyone else. I read the teachers lips and I participate in the class discussions. My transcripts are more for a back up for anything that I have missed. They are not the ultimate study guide that enable me to get good grades without ever reading a book or taking notes or participating in the class. Anybody else ever had such problems? How do I politely explain that I don't want to participate in a one way sharing of notes?

04-12-2008, 06:53 PM	#320 (permalink)
August Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 930	i see that my extremely accurate and helpful list of do's and don't's has been removed. WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS!?