deaf people should get ALONG with hearing people

rjr2006 · 05-20-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroGuy03

One more thing...

If you deaf people want to get some respect from hearing people... You deaf people have to work on your apperances seriously... I noticed that made huge difference... For example, few years ago, I only wore blue jean with baggy t-shirt with baggy jacket. It was for my own comfortable level... No one pay me respects but only deaf people because they just accept each other for who they are... I decided to change the way I dress... I bought clothes from ExpressMen, GAP, Banana Republic, D&G, Abercrombie & Fitch, American Eagle, Nordstroms and Macys... I got alot of respects from hearing people. Also some of you deaf people need to stop saying "DEAF POWER!" that turned so many hearing people off. Try to be level with hearing people just get them to respect you deaf people. Also work hard to prove them wrong and prove yourself that you can do it! It is alot of work but worth it.

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I agree with Metroguy, because I was raised in the hearing world. I noticed that a deaf kid did not say "thank you " to the bus driver, and deaf people NEED TO change their attitudes towards hearing people. I feel totally mortified because deaf people have bad attitudes and because of that, hearing world does not want to be with us.
A question for you: DO YOU WANT TO BE AROUND WITH RUDE PEOPLE OF ANY KIND? I don't want to be around them especially those who are demanding, grumpy, or even culturally separated!

We, deaf people need to change our ways, and change them NOW!

SxyPorkie · 05-20-2007, 09:28 PM

I guess you are hearing.... You have no respect for us deafies... why should you come in here.... you have no right to insult us...... so be it... You have NO right to judge us deafies.. SHADDUP...

PuyoPiyo · 05-20-2007, 09:41 PM

Well maybe deaf people didn't reply to other hearing people in the public very much because they can't communicate with them or if they signs, then hearing people will stare at them like they are from Mars.

shel90 · 05-20-2007, 09:53 PM

Wow..

It is us Deaf people that r always at fault for everything or what?

It goes both ways..some deaf people have bad attitudes..same goes for some hearing people. Why lump us into one person? Not all of us are perfect and we make mistakes. Iam sure u have made mistakes. If not then how would u grow and learn?

R2D2 · 05-20-2007, 10:09 PM

I don't think it's as easy as all that. Some deaf people find it very hard to communicate with hearing people and as such, they will avoid as much contact as they can if they don't know them. Plus, some hearing people can be very rude and impatient with deaf people if they do not understand what is being said straightaway. Those sighs, rolled eyes etc can be soul destroying for a deaf person.

I experienced that when I suddenly lost my residual hearing. I avoided hearing people that I didn't know because I knew I would struggle with the conversation. I'm sure I must have seemed rude, because I wouldn't look at them in the eye, really. It was only when I got a CI that I regained my previous confidence to deal with hearing people I was not familiar with.

rjr2006 · 05-20-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SxyPorkie

I guess you are hearing.... You have no respect for us deafies... why should you come in here.... you have no right to insult us...... so be it... You have NO right to judge us deafies.. SHADDUP...

I'm very sorry you feel that way. I am the last of 7 adopted children from India. I am a quadriplegic and profoundly deaf from birth! I can hear nothing. I am 21 years old and have struggled through school in regular classes. I learned that the only way to get along in life is to reach out and treat all people politely and respectfully even when they are mean back to me. I hope that you will come to see that treating people with respect is the only way to live together in this world. Be well, and try to be happy with yourself and all people. If all else fails, just smile

Please know that we can teach the hearing world how to see us and accept us, the hearing world has much to learn and we can teach them by our example!

sr171soars · 05-20-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rjr2006

I'm very sorry you feel that way. I am the last of 7 adopted children from India. I am a quadriplegic and profoundly deaf from birth! I can hear nothing. I am 21 years old and have struggled through school in regular classes. I learned that the only way to get along in life is to reach out and treat all people politely and respectfully even when they are mean back to me. I hope that you will come to see that treating people with respect is the only way to live together in this world. Be well, and try to be happy with yourself and all people. If all else fails, just smile

Please know that we can teach the hearing world how to see us and accept us, the hearing world has much to learn and we can teach them by our example!

Great attitude!

relayoperator · 05-20-2007, 10:53 PM

Every individual Deaf or Hearing should be entitled to their own opinion of eachother. You cannot simply tell someone they SHOULD get along with someone of the opposite culture. Hearing and Deaf culture is completely different - and there are often misconceptions on both sides of eachother.

Deaf people may believe that Hearing people discriminate against them or mock them. This is not true; if anything there is a lack of understanding on both parts and the communication barrier in most cases is a huge issue. It's not always intentional. Mostly it's Hearing people's ignorance.

Stating that Deaf and Hearing don't have to get a long is also untrue.

If a Deaf person refuses to understand a Hearing person then why should the Hearing person try and understand the Deaf person? Then why should a Deaf person demand the respect of a Hearing person?

Same goes for a Hearing person refusing to understand a Deaf person - then why should they demand the respect of a Deaf person?

Either way, refusing to understand eachother whether you are Deaf or Hearing is ignorance, pure ignorance.

I applaud those who have a good attitude about life instead of going on believing everyone is against them just because they are slightly different from others in the world and they go on with a negative attitude making others that are different from them feel unwelcomed.

I applaud those who are Deaf who accept the Hearing.

I am studying to be an ASL, BSL, and LSF Interpreter.- I would dislike interpreting for someone who treated me like a stranger or not as friends just because I was Hearing.

***Alex*** · 05-20-2007, 10:56 PM

I don't know if it's me but I find most hearing people to be more friendly than deaf people.

P.S. Don't attack me for saying that.

Silentwolfdog · 05-20-2007, 10:57 PM

Actually interpreters taught me that it's is not deaf's way to say thank you. Not surprising, I think it's because they did it in gesture rather than saying it out loud. That's why interpreters sometimes add it at end of the conversation (I don't know if you guys are aware of that or not, but yeah they do add it).

It's not about appearance, it's the way you behave that counts the most. I wore clothes today that actually looked bad. And I went to one of grocery store and was waiting in one of lane. Other lane opened, the couple behind me could have gone in first, but they allowed me to go first instead. I thanked them in sign language sort of to let them know that I am deaf. After I bought what I need, I waved to them before I left. Just to make sure in case they don't understand what I was saying before, I do appreciate what they have done. They smiled and waved back at me. That is a polite way to do thing. I am generally a polite person, which is why many hearing people respected me. Deaf people have a different way of showing it. It's not a bad thing, it's just their culture. If you went to Japan, you will find people there show respect in totally different way. They would have thought hearing people in US is arrogant and rude because we don't do it the same way as japanese do. It's same with deaf culture. It's just that hearing culture is not aware of it, that's all. We can (and I believe) show deaf people what hearing people usually do.

However, learn to say thanks is something I believe that should be add to deaf culture, but I am not going to force if it is not their way.

deafskeptic · 05-20-2007, 11:03 PM

While I agree that it's a two way street, I can and do get rude if the hearing ignores my request to speak slowly or to look at me. That doesn't happen very often though.

As for the clothes like A&E, some of us are too large to fit into those clothes but I always try to dress nice and most of my clothes are the casual nice kind.

rjr2006 · 05-20-2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I don't know if it's me but I find most hearing people to be more friendly than deaf people.

P.S. Don't attack me for saying that.

I agree with you.

Boult · 05-20-2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I don't know if it's me but I find most hearing people to be more friendly than deaf people.

P.S. Don't attack me for saying that.

Same here...

Boult · 05-20-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SxyPorkie

I guess you are hearing.... You have no respect for us deafies... why should you come in here.... you have no right to insult us...... so be it... You have NO right to judge us deafies.. SHADDUP...

cant you read what it say above his avatar?

Silentwolfdog · 05-20-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I don't know if it's me but I find most hearing people to be more friendly than deaf people.

P.S. Don't attack me for saying that.

I got to admit I think I also agree. But I don't know if it's because I remember people who are kind more than people who's not. And of course there are more hearing people out there than deaf people.

rjr2006 · 05-20-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Silentwolfdog

I got to admit I think I also agree. But I don't know if it's because I remember people who are kind more than people who's not. And of course there are more hearing people out there than deaf people.

exactly!

***VamPyroX*** · 05-20-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I don't know if it's me but I find most hearing people to be more friendly than deaf people.

P.S. Don't attack me for saying that.

I hate to agree, but I've noticed that it's true.

While hearing people may not be very understanding of deaf-related issues, they do show enough respect than a lot of deaf people I know.

If something doesn't go in the way of a deaf person, that deaf person is likely to get pissy or yell back about it.

I've seen deaf people treat hearing people horribly by talking in sign language and refusing to even use pen-&-paper for communication if an interpreter isn't available.

Interpretrator · 05-21-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rjr2006

I'm very sorry you feel that way. I am the last of 7 adopted children from India. I am a quadriplegic and profoundly deaf from birth! I can hear nothing. I am 21 years old and have struggled through school in regular classes. I learned that the only way to get along in life is to reach out and treat all people politely and respectfully even when they are mean back to me. I hope that you will come to see that treating people with respect is the only way to live together in this world. Be well, and try to be happy with yourself and all people. If all else fails, just smile

Please know that we can teach the hearing world how to see us and accept us, the hearing world has much to learn and we can teach them by our example!

That is a beautiful post. I'm very inspired by reading it. If everyone (deaf, hearing, black, white, green, WHATEVER) shared your attitude I would have so much more hope for the world. I very much believe that we need to stand up for ourselves while still respecting and understanding others; some people believe the two are mutually exclusive but I don't.

Capmeister · 05-21-2007, 08:12 AM

I've not really noticed a difference in the way hearing or deaf treat one another, or each other. There are rude people everywhere, in every culture. I've met rude deaf people, I've met nice deaf people. I've met rude hearing people, nice hearing people.

I really think most people are the same. I just think in general more people are rude/impolite these days--more than they used to be, anyway.

dreama · 05-21-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Capmeister

I've not really noticed a difference in the way hearing or deaf treat one another, or each other. There are rude people everywhere, in every culture. I've met rude deaf people, I've met nice deaf people. I've met rude hearing people, nice hearing people.

I really think most people are the same. I just think in general more people are rude/impolite these days--more than they used to be, anyway.

Your right there! I went to town the other day. Someone was holding the door to me and Jilli which I thought was nice of them until they just simply let go while we were half way through and it hit Jilli in the flank. That was a very nasty thing to do.

SxyPorkie · 05-21-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Boult

cant you read what it say above his avatar?

Sorry... cannot see his avatar.. too dark...

Foxrac · 05-21-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SxyPorkie

I guess you are hearing.... You have no respect for us deafies... why should you come in here.... you have no right to insult us...... so be it... You have NO right to judge us deafies.. SHADDUP...

He's deaf and graduated in same year as mine.

Please be nice to him, also he's not try to be rude to you.

Also, I'm sorry that you feel like that.

jillio · 05-21-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Well maybe deaf people didn't reply to other hearing people in the public very much because they can't communicate with them or if they signs, then hearing people will stare at them like they are from Mars.

EXACTLY!

Foxrac · 05-21-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rjr2006

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I agree with Metroguy, because I was raised in the hearing world. I noticed that a deaf kid did not say "thank you " to the bus driver, and deaf people NEED TO change their attitudes towards hearing people. I feel totally mortified because deaf people have bad attitudes and because of that, hearing world does not want to be with us.
A question for you: DO YOU WANT TO BE AROUND WITH RUDE PEOPLE OF ANY KIND? I don't want to be around them especially those who are demanding, grumpy, or even culturally separated!

We, deaf people need to change our ways, and change them NOW!

Well, it's depends on people, deaf and hearing people are just same.

I have alot of respect with hearing people at my work, also most of them are great.

For me, I wear baggy jean with t-shirt, just mixed with skateboard and hip hop.

05-20-2007, 09:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
SxyPorkie SxyPorkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,095	I guess you are hearing.... You have no respect for us deafies... why should you come in here.... you have no right to insult us...... so be it... You have NO right to judge us deafies.. SHADDUP... __________________ Life Goes On!!

05-20-2007, 09:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
PuyoPiyo My Property!! >:( Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fourth Plain Village WA Posts: 5,140	Well maybe deaf people didn't reply to other hearing people in the public very much because they can't communicate with them or if they signs, then hearing people will stare at them like they are from Mars. __________________

05-20-2007, 09:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
shel90 Sun Whorshipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A Desert Rat that has found herself in Maryland Posts: 16,119 Blog Entries: 1	Wow.. It is us Deaf people that r always at fault for everything or what? It goes both ways..some deaf people have bad attitudes..same goes for some hearing people. Why lump us into one person? Not all of us are perfect and we make mistakes. Iam sure u have made mistakes. If not then how would u grow and learn? __________________ ~Shel~ "A child educated only at school is an uneducated child." -George Santayana

05-20-2007, 10:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
relayoperator sign is my second languag Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 52	Every individual Deaf or Hearing should be entitled to their own opinion of eachother. You cannot simply tell someone they SHOULD get along with someone of the opposite culture. Hearing and Deaf culture is completely different - and there are often misconceptions on both sides of eachother. Deaf people may believe that Hearing people discriminate against them or mock them. This is not true; if anything there is a lack of understanding on both parts and the communication barrier in most cases is a huge issue. It's not always intentional. Mostly it's Hearing people's ignorance. Stating that Deaf and Hearing don't have to get a long is also untrue. If a Deaf person refuses to understand a Hearing person then why should the Hearing person try and understand the Deaf person? Then why should a Deaf person demand the respect of a Hearing person? Same goes for a Hearing person refusing to understand a Deaf person - then why should they demand the respect of a Deaf person? Either way, refusing to understand eachother whether you are Deaf or Hearing is ignorance, pure ignorance. I applaud those who have a good attitude about life instead of going on believing everyone is against them just because they are slightly different from others in the world and they go on with a negative attitude making others that are different from them feel unwelcomed. I applaud those who are Deaf who accept the Hearing. I am studying to be an ASL, BSL, and LSF Interpreter.- I would dislike interpreting for someone who treated me like a stranger or not as friends just because I was Hearing. __________________ there is always room for change...

05-20-2007, 10:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
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05-20-2007, 10:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
R2D2 Retired from All Deaf! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,606	I don't think it's as easy as all that. Some deaf people find it very hard to communicate with hearing people and as such, they will avoid as much contact as they can if they don't know them. Plus, some hearing people can be very rude and impatient with deaf people if they do not understand what is being said straightaway. Those sighs, rolled eyes etc can be soul destroying for a deaf person. I experienced that when I suddenly lost my residual hearing. I avoided hearing people that I didn't know because I knew I would struggle with the conversation. I'm sure I must have seemed rude, because I wouldn't look at them in the eye, really. It was only when I got a CI that I regained my previous confidence to deal with hearing people I was not familiar with.

05-20-2007, 10:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
Silentwolfdog a toku fangirl Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 702	Actually interpreters taught me that it's is not deaf's way to say thank you. Not surprising, I think it's because they did it in gesture rather than saying it out loud. That's why interpreters sometimes add it at end of the conversation (I don't know if you guys are aware of that or not, but yeah they do add it). It's not about appearance, it's the way you behave that counts the most. I wore clothes today that actually looked bad. And I went to one of grocery store and was waiting in one of lane. Other lane opened, the couple behind me could have gone in first, but they allowed me to go first instead. I thanked them in sign language sort of to let them know that I am deaf. After I bought what I need, I waved to them before I left. Just to make sure in case they don't understand what I was saying before, I do appreciate what they have done. They smiled and waved back at me. That is a polite way to do thing. I am generally a polite person, which is why many hearing people respected me. Deaf people have a different way of showing it. It's not a bad thing, it's just their culture. If you went to Japan, you will find people there show respect in totally different way. They would have thought hearing people in US is arrogant and rude because we don't do it the same way as japanese do. It's same with deaf culture. It's just that hearing culture is not aware of it, that's all. We can (and I believe) show deaf people what hearing people usually do. However, learn to say thanks is something I believe that should be add to deaf culture, but I am not going to force if it is not their way. __________________ If you are using red or blue font, there's a good chance that I am not reading your posts due to it being blended into background! I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. ~Sarah William Check my art at http://silentwolfdog.deviantart.com

05-20-2007, 11:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
deafskeptic AAACCK! I got BORGED! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,450	While I agree that it's a two way street, I can and do get rude if the hearing ignores my request to speak slowly or to look at me. That doesn't happen very often though. As for the clothes like A&E, some of us are too large to fit into those clothes but I always try to dress nice and most of my clothes are the casual nice kind. __________________ Left ear implanted with Med-El on April 24 2007. Activated on May 9th.

05-21-2007, 08:12 AM	#19 (permalink)
Capmeister Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 300	I've not really noticed a difference in the way hearing or deaf treat one another, or each other. There are rude people everywhere, in every culture. I've met rude deaf people, I've met nice deaf people. I've met rude hearing people, nice hearing people. I really think most people are the same. I just think in general more people are rude/impolite these days--more than they used to be, anyway.

05-21-2007, 02:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
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