Why Deaf films failed?[VID] - Page 2

Deafilmedia · 07-04-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DeafSCUBA98

so you like to put down deaf people's dreams?

you can't do that.. you should support their dreams.. and help eachother than put down their dreams..

Deaf people can still do it no matter what.

Do you know where I get these negative attitude from?????

Guess who?

Deaf people at Gallaudet.... they told me that deaf people won't
succeed in making film. Even your friend doesn't think I can make a
successful film. So I am repeating everything they said.

Dixie · 07-04-2007, 12:20 AM

Dont you have a job yet??

Deafilmedia · 07-04-2007, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

Dont you have a job yet??

No... I really like being on SSI

besemiasno · 07-04-2007, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

No... I really like being on SSI

That's just SO wrong!

BearBeauty · 07-04-2007, 11:15 PM

what do you expect? she's a drama queen....

Get a job.. SSI won't be there forever, Deafilmedia.

webexplorer · 07-04-2007, 11:50 PM

I think that people do not care about deaf roles in the movies. We are traditional to watch TV hearing shows everyday.

I studied in video making with deaf students at NTID. It wasn't an easy job. If we are in a big deaf world now, and then it would be good.

Working as a blue collar, it might be okay if you work at a news station or at a college auditorium for the performance shows.

It is not about money issue. It is all about people's power. It has to be a smart deaf person who knows how to run the business and to be in control as long as they cannot tell the deaf person what to do. That's why you need to act a boss.

If you still love to make the films, then just go head and try it to see if it works for you. Don't spend your money for three years of business until you are ready to buy something. That's the business rule. Most small companies did not follow the advisors about running in the business for three years so they ignored and failed it.

Now, my advice is for everyone who are on SSI/SSDI should be prepared to find a job before the year of 2050 because Social Security might run out of money. The SS might be only for profound handicapped people like blind, wheelchair, physical problems, health problems, etc. Deaf might not be included on the list because they can walk, able to write notes, sign language, and able to talk. They don't care about deaf low's salary or never get promoted - that probably will be a sad life.

Dixie · 07-05-2007, 12:58 PM

yup and by 2050 - I'll be retirement age and will be working well into the grave - likely spending my golden years as a greenthumb worker or Wal-Fart greeter.

Deafilmedia · 07-05-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BearBeauty

what do you expect? she's a drama queen....

Get a job.. SSI won't be there forever, Deafilmedia.

That is why I quit the film school, TOO MUCH WORK!!!!

Deafilmedia · 07-05-2007, 09:19 PM

I think that people do not care about deaf roles in the movies. We are traditional to watch TV hearing shows everyday.

Yeah because hearing people LOVE sound... That is why in movie theatres, the sound is so LOUD!!!! If they don't hear sound, they will panic. Sound is the most important thing. Even Silent movies play music. RADIO in the 1930, people at that time didn't have tv, so RADIO and music were the most important Technology in those days... they had soap opera on the RADIO, the actors talking.... And plus we got RADIO in CARS, hearing people will get bored while driving, they hate quietness. My Nephew was 2 years old, he tried to take off closed caption, he hated them... I keep telling him to stop turning it off... now he is 11, he still don't understand why I need those annoying closed caption. He gets real upset. I had to fight with him. I spanked him so hard, he cried and went to his room and SLAM the door!!! In the theatre, if the cell phone ring, Movie goers will get angry at someone for disturbing their sound. That is why you don't talk during the movie. So if deaf people is going to sign language in a silent film with substitled, hearing people will get impatient. You are taking away their sense...

I studied in video making with deaf students at NTID. It wasn't an easy job. If we are in a big deaf world now, and then it would be good.

TRUE.

Working as a blue collar, it might be okay if you work at a news station or at a college auditorium for the performance shows.

Yeah I was an intern at B.E.T. and producers told me I am not allow
to mess with the camera or be around cameramen at the studio. That is why I got so depressed.

It is not about money issue. It is all about people's power. It has to be a smart deaf person who knows how to run the business and to be in control as long as they cannot tell the deaf person what to do. That's why you need to act a boss.

Not only hearing people... but to all people.
If someone finds out about your weakness, they will CRUSH you.
If you're gay, CRUSH!!!
If you're black, CRUSH!!!
If you only have a high school degree, CRUSH!!!
If you became Miss America, and if you screwed up (Vanessa William), CRUSH!!!
Right now someone is trying to find a way to pull Obama down....
his opponents are trying to find his weakness so he won't be President.
This is a DOG EAT DOG world.

No, you don't have to be too smart to run a business.
I tell you a secret....
What do a politician do? Think about it for a second?
A politician has to convince everyone that they can run the country.
Look at Bill Clinton... how he became President...
He said YES to everyone. And he is so nice to everyone.
Same thing with Deaf person, they gotta convince everyone that
they can run the store. Don't argue with your customers. Always give in and make them happy, do whatever you have to to make them happy and they will come back.
Cause when I was trying to sell stuff at Deaf Expo, same deaf people keep coming back to my table.... cause I am so friendly, I am so warmhearting. I understand people, I understand these customers... I talked to them,,, and they gave me their concern...
You can't be like, "Oh I don't have time to talk to you, I'm busy." No, can't do that... you gotta smile.

If you still love to make the films, then just go head and try it to see if it works for you. Don't spend your money for three years of business until you are ready to buy something. That's the business rule. Most small companies did not follow the advisors about running in the business for three years so they ignored and failed it.

Okay, I'll try to do films. True...

Now, my advice is for everyone who are on SSI/SSDI should be prepared to find a job before the year of 2050 because Social Security might run out of money. The SS might be only for profound handicapped people like blind, wheelchair, physical problems, health problems, etc. Deaf might not be included on the list because they can walk, able to write notes, sign language, and able to talk. They don't care about deaf low's salary or never get promoted - that probably will be a sad life.

That is a lie.... SSI will be always be there... cause there are other countries that will look after us Disabled people. They might fund...
Arabic prince might give USA a billion dollar check.

webexplorer · 07-05-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

That is a lie.... SSI will be always be there... cause there are other countries that will look after us Disabled people. They might fund...
Arabic prince might give USA a billion dollar check.

You're probably right. Uh, it seems that you are my mother. Scratching my head. I am going to ask my mother if she is actually you or not. Gulp!

Deafilmedia · 07-05-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

You're probably right. Uh, it seems that you are my mother. Scratching my head. I am going to ask my mother if she is actually you or not. Gulp!

LOL!!!

Tousi · 07-05-2007, 10:14 PM

Deafilmedia, haven't you heard of niche markets? I am not going to say much more because you give up too easily, you even said so yourself and I even suspect that you are not talented/knowledgeable enough in this fast-changing industry; much less having the DRIVE/perseverence, etc that it takes as well as other things like money, contacts, luck, overcoming the deaf world's crab theory and more to begin to succeed.

I know it's not my place to say this but, at your age, don't you think that is a message in itself? Time to turn a new leaf and start something else where you can support yourself.

Silentwolfdog · 07-06-2007, 01:51 AM

"Do or do not, there is no try."

Would you rather live your life wondering "what if"? Just go ahead and do as much as you can. Everyone have their reason for being on Earth, whether they know it or not.

If you don't have passion and will to suffer for what you love...then well...what do you think will happen?

Deafilmedia · 07-06-2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Deafilmedia, haven't you heard of niche markets? I am not going to say much more because you give up too easily, you even said so yourself and I even suspect that you are not talented/knowledgeable enough in this fast-changing industry; much less having the DRIVE/perseverence, etc that it takes as well as other things like money, contacts, luck, overcoming the deaf world's crab theory and more to begin to succeed.

I know it's not my place to say this but, at your age, don't you think that is a message in itself? Time to turn a new leaf and start something else where you can support yourself.

I could own a business... but I need MONEY to do that.

Deafilmedia · 07-06-2007, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silentwolfdog

"Do or do not, there is no try."

Would you rather live your life wondering "what if"? Just go ahead and do as much as you can. Everyone have their reason for being on Earth, whether they know it or not.

If you don't have passion and will to suffer for what you love...then well...what do you think will happen?

I never wonder what if...

I did went out and try a lot of things...
I went to Deaf Expo... nice experience.
I went to help deaf people making their film in California in February, bad experience.
I went to film school, okay experience.
I went to Hawaii, Alaska, and all.....
I am making a documentary about Memphis... will show my film to
the public, after I finished with it...
I went to Deaf Film Festival, dumb experience

There are a lot of things I like to do... and I will do.

DeafSCUBA98 · 07-06-2007, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

I could own a business... but I need MONEY to do that.

everyone needs money to own a business.. there's always loans out there.. even loans for those who don't have money to start it.. but must have a good business plan and show the bank u'll success..

there's millions of business loans.. some are tax-free in some states for small-business like here in minnesota they have tax-free zones for new business owners.

Deafilmedia · 07-06-2007, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafSCUBA98

everyone needs money to own a business.. there's always loans out there.. even loans for those who don't have money to start it.. but must have a good business plan and show the bank u'll success..

there's millions of business loans.. some are tax-free in some states for small-business like here in minnesota they have tax-free zones for new business owners.

I know... ack...

Tousi · 07-06-2007, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deafilmedia

I could own a business... but I need MONEY to do that.

And you also said: "I know... ack..."

Owning a business is a serious undertaking and it can be life-fulfilling BUT you do not have control of yourself....do that first and then, maybe......

Dixie · 07-06-2007, 08:48 PM

Deafilmedia-
Get off your lazy ass get and goddamn job and quit your whining! Simply doing that can solve ALOT of your problems.

You said film school was too much work - I honestly think you just want everything handed to you.

If you REALLY want something, you'll get off your rump and do whatever it takes to achieve that goal.

There is a saying in retriever training - actually several that relate to this situation.
1.) It ain't magic - its determination.
2.) BABY STEPS Baby Steps baby steps.
3.) Train like you hunt and hunt like you train.

Pick a saying and make it your mantra.

webexplorer · 07-06-2007, 10:07 PM

Just forget the film-maker for now.

How about getting a job at a small frame shop? I worked at a small frame job, and it was a kind of fun being an "owner" awhile my boss was away for his long vacations. I worked for four years, and bought some of his equipment before he is retired. Now, I run my own business. It is all right. My suggest you to apply the job to work with an older owner. You know what I mean. Please don't mess with your boss in his/her business.

My boss raised hell to me in the middle of his divorce. I was patient with him thru his divorce for six months. It was stressed out. After his divorce, everything went smooth. Whew! I needed to pay my bills for my trip to Russia. My father was supposed to give me a birthday gift for the trip, and it wasn't. I paid my bills and got over with it. All he care was spent his money on beers. I'm not a drinker.

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07-05-2007, 12:58 PM	#37 (permalink)
Dixie Hooray its November! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,199	yup and by 2050 - I'll be retirement age and will be working well into the grave - likely spending my golden years as a greenthumb worker or Wal-Fart greeter. __________________ Visit my Deaf Blog Signature banner created by me, please do not steal!

07-06-2007, 01:51 AM	#43 (permalink)
Silentwolfdog a toku fangirl Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 702	"Do or do not, there is no try." Would you rather live your life wondering "what if"? Just go ahead and do as much as you can. Everyone have their reason for being on Earth, whether they know it or not. If you don't have passion and will to suffer for what you love...then well...what do you think will happen? __________________ If you are using red or blue font, there's a good chance that I am not reading your posts due to it being blended into background! I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. ~Sarah William Check my art at http://silentwolfdog.deviantart.com

07-06-2007, 08:48 PM	#49 (permalink)
Dixie Hooray its November! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,199	Deafilmedia- Get off your lazy ass get and goddamn job and quit your whining! Simply doing that can solve ALOT of your problems. You said film school was too much work - I honestly think you just want everything handed to you. If you REALLY want something, you'll get off your rump and do whatever it takes to achieve that goal. There is a saying in retriever training - actually several that relate to this situation. 1.) It ain't magic - its determination. 2.) BABY STEPS Baby Steps baby steps. 3.) Train like you hunt and hunt like you train. Pick a saying and make it your mantra. __________________ Visit my Deaf Blog Signature banner created by me, please do not steal!

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07-04-2007, 11:15 PM	#35 (permalink)
BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	what do you expect? she's a drama queen.... Get a job.. SSI won't be there forever, Deafilmedia.

07-04-2007, 11:50 PM	#36 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 3,458	I think that people do not care about deaf roles in the movies. We are traditional to watch TV hearing shows everyday. I studied in video making with deaf students at NTID. It wasn't an easy job. If we are in a big deaf world now, and then it would be good. Working as a blue collar, it might be okay if you work at a news station or at a college auditorium for the performance shows. It is not about money issue. It is all about people's power. It has to be a smart deaf person who knows how to run the business and to be in control as long as they cannot tell the deaf person what to do. That's why you need to act a boss. If you still love to make the films, then just go head and try it to see if it works for you. Don't spend your money for three years of business until you are ready to buy something. That's the business rule. Most small companies did not follow the advisors about running in the business for three years so they ignored and failed it. Now, my advice is for everyone who are on SSI/SSDI should be prepared to find a job before the year of 2050 because Social Security might run out of money. The SS might be only for profound handicapped people like blind, wheelchair, physical problems, health problems, etc. Deaf might not be included on the list because they can walk, able to write notes, sign language, and able to talk. They don't care about deaf low's salary or never get promoted - that probably will be a sad life.

07-05-2007, 09:19 PM	#39 (permalink)
Deafilmedia Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,579	I think that people do not care about deaf roles in the movies. We are traditional to watch TV hearing shows everyday. Yeah because hearing people LOVE sound... That is why in movie theatres, the sound is so LOUD!!!! If they don't hear sound, they will panic. Sound is the most important thing. Even Silent movies play music. RADIO in the 1930, people at that time didn't have tv, so RADIO and music were the most important Technology in those days... they had soap opera on the RADIO, the actors talking.... And plus we got RADIO in CARS, hearing people will get bored while driving, they hate quietness. My Nephew was 2 years old, he tried to take off closed caption, he hated them... I keep telling him to stop turning it off... now he is 11, he still don't understand why I need those annoying closed caption. He gets real upset. I had to fight with him. I spanked him so hard, he cried and went to his room and SLAM the door!!! In the theatre, if the cell phone ring, Movie goers will get angry at someone for disturbing their sound. That is why you don't talk during the movie. So if deaf people is going to sign language in a silent film with substitled, hearing people will get impatient. You are taking away their sense... I studied in video making with deaf students at NTID. It wasn't an easy job. If we are in a big deaf world now, and then it would be good. TRUE. Working as a blue collar, it might be okay if you work at a news station or at a college auditorium for the performance shows. Yeah I was an intern at B.E.T. and producers told me I am not allow to mess with the camera or be around cameramen at the studio. That is why I got so depressed. It is not about money issue. It is all about people's power. It has to be a smart deaf person who knows how to run the business and to be in control as long as they cannot tell the deaf person what to do. That's why you need to act a boss. Not only hearing people... but to all people. If someone finds out about your weakness, they will CRUSH you. If you're gay, CRUSH!!! If you're black, CRUSH!!! If you only have a high school degree, CRUSH!!! If you became Miss America, and if you screwed up (Vanessa William), CRUSH!!! Right now someone is trying to find a way to pull Obama down.... his opponents are trying to find his weakness so he won't be President. This is a DOG EAT DOG world. No, you don't have to be too smart to run a business. I tell you a secret.... What do a politician do? Think about it for a second? A politician has to convince everyone that they can run the country. Look at Bill Clinton... how he became President... He said YES to everyone. And he is so nice to everyone. Same thing with Deaf person, they gotta convince everyone that they can run the store. Don't argue with your customers. Always give in and make them happy, do whatever you have to to make them happy and they will come back. Cause when I was trying to sell stuff at Deaf Expo, same deaf people keep coming back to my table.... cause I am so friendly, I am so warmhearting. I understand people, I understand these customers... I talked to them,,, and they gave me their concern... You can't be like, "Oh I don't have time to talk to you, I'm busy." No, can't do that... you gotta smile. If you still love to make the films, then just go head and try it to see if it works for you. Don't spend your money for three years of business until you are ready to buy something. That's the business rule. Most small companies did not follow the advisors about running in the business for three years so they ignored and failed it. Okay, I'll try to do films. True... Now, my advice is for everyone who are on SSI/SSDI should be prepared to find a job before the year of 2050 because Social Security might run out of money. The SS might be only for profound handicapped people like blind, wheelchair, physical problems, health problems, etc. Deaf might not be included on the list because they can walk, able to write notes, sign language, and able to talk. They don't care about deaf low's salary or never get promoted - that probably will be a sad life. That is a lie.... SSI will be always be there... cause there are other countries that will look after us Disabled people. They might fund... Arabic prince might give USA a billion dollar check.

07-05-2007, 10:14 PM	#42 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,238	Deafilmedia, haven't you heard of niche markets? I am not going to say much more because you give up too easily, you even said so yourself and I even suspect that you are not talented/knowledgeable enough in this fast-changing industry; much less having the DRIVE/perseverence, etc that it takes as well as other things like money, contacts, luck, overcoming the deaf world's crab theory and more to begin to succeed. I know it's not my place to say this but, at your age, don't you think that is a message in itself? Time to turn a new leaf and start something else where you can support yourself.

07-06-2007, 10:07 PM	#50 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 3,458	Just forget the film-maker for now. How about getting a job at a small frame shop? I worked at a small frame job, and it was a kind of fun being an "owner" awhile my boss was away for his long vacations. I worked for four years, and bought some of his equipment before he is retired. Now, I run my own business. It is all right. My suggest you to apply the job to work with an older owner. You know what I mean. Please don't mess with your boss in his/her business. My boss raised hell to me in the middle of his divorce. I was patient with him thru his divorce for six months. It was stressed out. After his divorce, everything went smooth. Whew! I needed to pay my bills for my trip to Russia. My father was supposed to give me a birthday gift for the trip, and it wasn't. I paid my bills and got over with it. All he care was spent his money on beers. I'm not a drinker.