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Unread 10-10-2006, 10:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How do Deaf people drive?

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This might sound silly, but how Does a Deaf person drive differently from a hearing person? How do Deaf people know if an ambulance or fire truck is coming from behind? How do Deaf people sign while driving? How about at night? I'm hearing, obviously, and I'm curious. Also, are there any devices Deaf people use to help them? I think some people use large rearview mirrors, but I don't know of anything else.
I'm a design student, trying to come up with some ideas for a project. I'd appreciate your thoughts.
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Unread 10-10-2006, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This might sound silly, but how Does a Deaf person drive differently from a hearing person? How do Deaf people know if an ambulance or fire truck is coming from behind? How do Deaf people sign while driving? How about at night? I'm hearing, obviously, and I'm curious. Also, are there any devices Deaf people use to help them? I think some people use large rearview mirrors, but I don't know of anything else.
I'm a design student, trying to come up with some ideas for a project. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

I took Driving Education when I was 16 years old. I learnt what every other peer learnt.

I simply rely on my rearview mirror a lot.

Last week, a cop was behing me on a motorcyle with his siren on. I thought he was asking ME to pull over. I pulled over but realized that he wanted the driver in a huge white SUV with California license plates in the lane next to me. So that was who he pulled over.

I will never be perfect with knowing if cop or ambulance is behind me but I have vibes that hearing people dont. It may take me 1 or 2 minutes longer but Im always there in the end.

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-Deaf people usually have more visual alert while driving than hearing people.
-According to one of insurance companies: Deaf people drive safer than hearing people.
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If the sound is a requirement, then why there is traffic lights, car having lights ambulance, firetrucks, and cops have tons of lights? So, why must sound be the only thing to qualify for driving? Even at factory, the forklift must have flashing lights... So whats these point for, if the sound is the only thing is required??? I am sorry to be blunt, this is really an insult to the injury!

In fact, I still don't understand why these closed minded hearing people freaked out about deafness, but don't mind blindness??? This does not even make any sense to me at all!
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I think it's safe to say that, being deaf, we use our remaining faculties to a greater degree than hearing people. And, as a general rule, deaf drivers are not singled out for higher than normal insurance premiums. Furthermore, a Judge Sherman Finesilver of Colorado once said, "Hearing nor the lack of it IS NOT a basis for safe driving".
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perfect example!!! Yankees got all of these "All star" players, all of these players are the top notch, got everything Yankees needed to win... Did they win world series this year? Howcome one lousy team with nothing but a starter yanked the Yankees out of the play-offs!

This proves that it does NOT pay to discriminate for the "Perfect" ones!

Why do we need "EVERYTHING" just to be perfect?
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Have you heard any ambulance or firetruck or police accident caused by a deaf driver?

I'm sure that it's very rare but may have happened one or 2 somewhere in many years.

I haven't heard of one in last 30 years. I drove for over 25 years by now and never had one myself either.

Often I do have a vibe whenever there is siren going by, if not everytime. To drive it takes eyes, not ears is all.

Yes, those posts before mine are good points, too.

Otherwise, we deafies enchance our "vibes" or 6th sense replacing our hearing so it helps sometime.

Surprised? Not much to us deafies, really - lol.

But I can understand your curiousity being a hearie, however. Wish your research well.
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What is the difference between a deaf person driving, or a hearing person driving in a car with the music cranked up so loud that he cannot hear anything outside the car? I remember telling one of my friends to pull over because an ambulance was behind us, but he had his music on so loud.
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It's seems stupid question.

Of course, deaf people can drive, and skill is just average as hearing people but cannot hear from horn, siren and other sound related on car, including listen to radio about traffic and weather, unless able to get hear in car with hearing aids or CI.
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perfect example!!! Yankees got all of these "All star" players, all of these players are the top notch, got everything Yankees needed to win... Did they win world series this year? Howcome one lousy team with nothing but a starter yanked the Yankees out of the play-offs!

This proves that it does NOT pay to discriminate for the "Perfect" ones!

Why do we need "EVERYTHING" just to be perfect?
I agree... You are Yankee?
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This might sound silly, but how Does a Deaf person drive differently from a hearing person? How do Deaf people know if an ambulance or fire truck is coming from behind? How do Deaf people sign while driving? How about at night? I'm hearing, obviously, and I'm curious. Also, are there any devices Deaf people use to help them? I think some people use large rearview mirrors, but I don't know of anything else.
I'm a design student, trying to come up with some ideas for a project. I'd appreciate your thoughts.
Deaf people uses their eyes to hear and see nor hear through their ears with hearing aids or any other device., if an ambulance is coming down the road from behind, I cannot hear it unless it is very close by, I have to pay attention what's around me, Deaf people are required to have 3 mirrors while driving a vehicle, two outside mirrors and one inside mirror. We take the same driver education course, We also have the same temporary driving permit and we also take the same final driving exam as hearing people.

I don't sign while I drive, I have to keep my eyes on the roads to avoid having the vehicle lose control or accidents. What about those hearing who talk on cellular phones? I've seen lost of control of their vehicles while they're on the phone and driving at the same time.
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then go move to south.

There's other word for yankee, that people who from northeast, midwest and northwest.
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Normal people have 5 sense: visual, audio, feel, taste and smell.

However, for deaf who have no audio experience or less, the part of brain that left 5% increase more took over all rest of sense for boost.

Wow! I can see far better! *looking at porn*
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Well, I love Anaheim Angeles! :-D

Hey, I know it now is Los Angeles Angeles

I grew up living in Black and Gold country and that is in Nor'Eastern!

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then go move to south.

There's other word for yankee, that people who from northeast, midwest and northwest.
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what about car horns?

Do Deaf people ever find themselves doing something in the car at a red light (like texting or looking at people in the back seat) and not realize the light has just turned green? I know that when this happens to me I'm startled by the car horn behind me. Is it tough driving without hearing car horns?
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alll right ......... if you really wanted to know how a deaf person drives a vehicle?.......... think back for a minute......... there was a brand new car called LEXUS that car is sound proof ......... how do HEARING people hear what's going on outside of that particular car?...... it's the same idea .... deaf people have a tendancy to rely on visual ........
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Do Deaf people ever find themselves doing something in the car at a red light (like texting or looking at people in the back seat) and not realize the light has just turned green? I know that when this happens to me I'm startled by the car horn behind me. Is it tough driving without hearing car horns?
At the red light, I usual look in my indoor mirror to see what my two sons are doing back there, I don't even own a sk2 or pager for all that matters, Sometimes I don't realized that the light turned green until I see it, but hearing people do the same as well when they're not paying attention either. I am glad I don't hear the vehicles horns, because it would disturb my driving.

When people honking their horns, I've seen other drivers would flip a bird at them and then there goes a road rage. That's why I am glad I cannot hear anyone honking at me.
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Hi-

This might sound silly, but how Does a Deaf person drive differently from a hearing person? How do Deaf people know if an ambulance or fire truck is coming from behind? How do Deaf people sign while driving? How about at night? I'm hearing, obviously, and I'm curious. Also, are there any devices Deaf people use to help them? I think some people use large rear-view mirrors, but I don't know of anything else.
I'm a design student, trying to come up with some ideas for a project. I'd appreciate your thoughts.
I'd like to jump in and share my perspectives.

1) How does a Deaf person drive differently from a hearing person?

We don't drive much differently as compared to those hearing peers but however we do use our eyes more by using the basic common regulations of checking the rear-view mirrors and side door mirrors, and all that kind of stuffs which is required by being on the road.

2) How do Deaf people know if an ambulance or fire truck is coming from behind?

There are times I admit I did not even realize that the emergency vehicles were behind me but that is what the rear-view mirror is for to put to use by checking it every 30 seconds or so. They (the ambulance/firetrucks/police vehicles) usually would give a space (or a timing) before you're pulled over and they usually are mostly pleased with it. However I do realize that in a case, it can get serious. So it is basically our responsibility to check the rear view mirrors and the surrounding that is around us before one of those vehicles pops out of nowhere.

3)How do Deaf people sign while driving?

I'd have to ask, How do Hearing People jabber off while they drive? How can they really focus on the road when they are deeply engaged in a conversation on a cell phone as well? That same concept applies to the deaf drivers. For me, I usually try to keep the conversation to the minimum with a passenger who signs in order to have my eyes on the road. Our eyes are constantly moving around and multitasking, so I guess you could say that when you get the hang of it, You pretty much become familiar with it's functions.

4) How about at night?
At night time when we drive, We use the dome light that is inside the vehicle to engage into a conversation but however, I don't normally have it on when I am in an area that has deep edged curves because it helps me focus on the road and has a better handle of using the steering wheel.

On the other hand, Driving at night time has it's own advantage because when an emergency vehicle has it's siren lights on - It is much easier to be noticeable whereas it is still somewhat noticeable in the daytime.


There was a similar question to this in another thread which is - Being deaf and driving and this is what I had to say in that thread -

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Just to be aware, If you were asked to say "Can deaf people drive?" - That would be taken in a different light only considered to be offensive because we do can drive. We don't let our deafness stop us from doing the daily routine just as much as others do too.
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Jolie_77 - that was really helpful. Thanks. Do you know of any devices inside the car that light up when a car horn honks or an ambulance is coming from behind? I'm working on a project now that seems to be headed in this direction.
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What is the difference between a deaf person driving, or a hearing person driving in a car with the music cranked up so loud that he cannot hear anything outside the car?
Exactly!!! good one there Kuifje75
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I use my eyes a lot to compensate for lack of hearing what's going on around the vehicles.

I observe the behaviors of the vehicles around mine. For example, I see vehicles pulling to the right or stopping on a green light could be an indicator of either a police, or fire, or ambulance with full siren and lights on nearby.

If people honk at me, screw them.

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There's a difference??? I'm not thinking about the Deaf improving the quality of driving with special devices, but what about using devices to improve the quality of access to information on the road???

Bjcomix, interesting thought about devices that alert of certain noises on the street. I would want to know where the noises come from, though, and what they are. I think it is very important to contact for help if you're out of gas or stuck in nowhere. I have an emergency number I can SMS with my cellphone. How to communicate with police or other people in tense situations?

My inlaws used their experience on the road as a standard to judge my driving with; they rely on their hearing a lot and cannot fathom the idea of not being able to rely on hearing. There are probably existing hardships for them. While I can understand that, they also have to understand that I have adapted to drive with other senses. People have to allow for that instead of using rigid, prejudiced standards. I have driven since I was 15.8 years old.

I have driven in very dangerous conditions (snow, wind and zero visibility in the mountains) earlier this Feb where my inlaws wouldn't have dared to go. I made the 6 hour trip alone there and back in one piece. Inlaws never questioned my driving ability after that again.

Kuifje, I hope I didn't scare you too much with my driving when you were here
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Jolie_77 - that was really helpful. Thanks. Do you know of any devices inside the car that light up when a car horn honks or an ambulance is coming from behind? I'm working on a project now that seems to be headed in this direction.
thanks!
To answer your question; To my knowledge, I have not seen a device that has a "light-up" or a warning light to let the deaf drivers be aware of when an emergency vehicle comes from the behind or whenever a car has it's horn on. There probably has been one that had already been patented but it doesn't hurt to check it out. I wish you the luck on your project and hopefully it will be a helpful device for the safety on the road. It could also be an advantage to the hearing drivers as well for whenever they are too "lax" on the road by not realizing they are engaging in a conversation on a cell phone or with a fellow passenger. Any insights would be made worthwhile in the long run.
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I always rely on keeping my eyes on the road and watch how the other cars act.

For example, If I see cars pulling over to the right or stopping I'll assume that either a firetruck or an ambluance is behind me. I'll slow down or stop and check my rear view window and my right side to check for it.

Honking isn't always useful as some hearing can't tell the direction where the sound is coming from.

I've had a hearing person back up into me despite me honking the horn. She said thought the horn was down the road instead of behind her.
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Kuifje, I hope I didn't scare you too much with my driving when you were here
LOL nah you didn't scare me... but... with a motorboat, NOW, that's a different story! LOL
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LOL nah you didn't scare me... but... with a motorboat, NOW, that's a different story! LOL
HA HA HA I must admit, you are a GOOD swimmer as well! hihi sorry, couldn't resist that either...
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I use my eyes a lot to compensate for lack of hearing what's going on around the vehicles.

I observe the behaviors of the vehicles around mine. For example, I see vehicles pulling to the right or stopping on a green light could be an indicator of either a police, or fire, or ambulance with full siren and lights on nearby.

If people honk at me, screw them.

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Same goes for me too!

There were times that I have honked at people for not moving when the light turned green but then 1 minute later, an ambulance or fire truck goes racing thru the intersection. That hit me hard cuz what if I was the first driver in line? Would I have gone as soon as the light turned green and gotten hit by the emergency vehicle? That is a question that I dont want to be answered so it was a lesson to be learned. After a few of those incidents, I got myself into the habit of looking from left to right to make sure there are no emergency vehicles nor runaway speeders barraling down the street before hitting the gas to cross the intersection. I think it is also a good habit for everyone including hearing people because 2 of my friends were killed by a drunk driver running through the intersection even though the light was red on that person's side of the road.

Driving is a huge responsibility for both deaf and hearing people..use whatever senses we have to keep ourselves safe. I have been driving for almost 20 years and have only been in 1 fender bender and it was someone else hitting me from the rear.
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Im hoh and when I drive, I rarely use my ears but use my eyes to look around me at all times. When ambulance and firetrucks are coming, occasionally I can hear them but can't locate where its from. If the cars in front of me or on other side of street move over to the side then I know emergency cars are coming so I move over too.
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The idea that people use hearing to help them drive is unthinkable to me. I can hear sirens only when they're like 10 feet behind me so I watch other cars.
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