can deaf persons hear their thoughts??!?!

jamielee · 09-25-2005, 01:38 AM

Big debate in my house tonight, can deafies hear their thoughts or when they talk to themselves in their minds?? know what I mean????

deafdyke · 09-25-2005, 02:31 AM

Depends....I think in English, but can think in Sign too....a lot of folks think in Sign......

JeepGirl · 09-25-2005, 03:16 AM

I can hear my thoughts all the time.. if you're speaking of daydreaming and thinking.. all the voices talking in my head.. then I can hear my thoughts. I sometimes sign as well.

Lavender · 09-25-2005, 03:17 AM

I don't think they can hear their thoughts becuz they don't wear hearing aids. If they don't read a book or never study in spelling words, they think only signs.

JeepGirl · 09-25-2005, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lavender

I don't think they can hear their thoughts becuz they don't wear hearing aids. If they don't read a book or never study in spelling words, they think only signs.

Really?.. well, I'm profoundly deaf and when I'm not wearing my hearing aids.. I do have voices talking in my head.. but.. I'm not so sure about those who don't wear them at all.. how they think.. I'm curious too.

Lavender · 09-25-2005, 03:38 AM

aah.. ic that's interesting. I never knew u do have voices talking in ur head that's probably smthg had to do with this nerve makes u feel vibrated going up to ur head of ur voice. It's just my guessing. LOL

DreamyHawaii · 09-25-2005, 04:45 AM

I can hear my thoughts is because how to sound vowel " AEIOU " not the sound like " AIEOU " because I can hear it very exactly with my thoughts. and how to sound right spelling word that is how it works with hear with my thoughts.But cannot see inside the mind what it has done with sounds through hear with thoughts and wonders too. That is what I can tell by that too. It's like what I made the quote of issue from the past the progress of civilization has tremendously magnified the power of our senses, muscles, and skills from being deafie. Now that we are adding a new dimension: the direct interface between brains and machines. Although still true, this statement is perhaps too spectacular and it requires cautious clarification. Our true present knowledge regarding the coding of information, mechanisms of perception, and neuronal bases of behavior is so elemental that it is highly improbable that electrical correlates of thoughts or emotions could be picked up, transmitted, and electrically applied to the suitable structure of a different subject in order to be recognized and to trigger related thoughts or emotions.In order of keeps on meditative with experienced from deep thoughts for ears as because of still hearing impaired as a person can hear where it comes from mind's thoughts and wonders too. I would like to sharing with deafia but some of my thoughts are too much confused could not explain clearly. It's not how my communicate doing in proper way with deafia. Something is so different with my thoughts and wonders with deafies on this forum. Somewhat I feel wary of my thougths and wonders that because I am working on my own invention with something that may be able to hear again and not have to be deafie ever again. It is not what I want you to know about it from me until you get shocked to hears from me. That is what I am doing in this my life and I know God has the secret gift for me to show you how I got it from God's gift. But I know you will be mocking of me about this issue until you will be very shocked to see and be able to hear again. I have seen so many ways to work things out for my thoughts and wonders each others. Just wait and see what's happened later in the future. As you see the bible says all the possible ways you will get it from God's gift. In God we trust.Though I can tell by God is awaits for you to be able to hear again while you are still on this life. Don't say impossible! If you say impossible then you will not be able to hear again on this life from God's gift. Just remember " In God We Trust."

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Originally Posted by jamielee

Big debate in my house tonight, can deafies hear their thoughts or when they talk to themselves in their minds?? know what I mean????

jamielee · 09-25-2005, 04:46 AM

ok so more specifically, deaf people without HA... anyother thoughts on this???Because if you have never herd talking of any sort or any sound, how would they know that what they are hearing is speech!? hmmmm, I dunno. I dont know if I am wording this the right way. Would it be ok to say that deaf people think in ASL or SL rather than english? because it is their first language??

jamielee · 09-25-2005, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DreamyHawaii

I can hear my thoughts is because how to sound vowel " AEIOU " not the sound like " AIEOU " because I can hear it very exactly with my thoughts. and how to sound right spelling word that is how it works with hear with my thoughts.But cannot see inside the mind what it has done with sounds through hear with thoughts and wonders too. That is what I can tell by that too. It's like what I made the quote of issue from the past the progress of civilization has tremendously magnified the power of our senses, muscles, and skills from being deafie. Now that we are adding a new dimension: the direct interface between brains and machines. Although still true, this statement is perhaps too spectacular and it requires cautious clarification. Our true present knowledge regarding the coding of information, mechanisms of perception, and neuronal bases of behavior is so elemental that it is highly improbable that electrical correlates of thoughts or emotions could be picked up, transmitted, and electrically applied to the suitable structure of a different subject in order to be recognized and to trigger related thoughts or emotions.In order of keeps on meditative with experienced from deep thoughts for ears as because of still hearing impaired as a person can hear where it comes from mind's thoughts and wonders too. I would like to sharing with deafia but some of my thoughts are too much confused could not explain clearly. It's not how my communicate doing in proper way with deafia. Something is so different with my thoughts and wonders with deafies on this forum. Somewhat I feel wary of my thougths and wonders that because I am working on my own invention with something that may be able to hear again and not have to be deafie ever again. It is not what I want you to know about it from me until you get shocked to hears from me. That is what I am doing in this my life and I know God has the secret gift for me to show you how I got it from God's gift. But I know you will be mocking of me about this issue until you will be very shocked to see and be able to hear again. I have seen so many ways to work things out for my thoughts and wonders each others. Just wait and see what's happened later in the future. As you see the bible says all the possible ways you will get it from God's gift. In God we trust.Though I can tell by God is awaits for you to be able to hear again while you are still on this life. Don't say impossible! If you say impossible then you will not be able to hear again on this life from God's gift. Just remember " In God We Trust."

So if I understand you right, you are trying to make it so you can hear? if so, I think that is very cool! And anything is possible! I think you are a brave person to take on such a challenge and if it is what you want than you should do it!!! Anyone that mocks you is a fool.

Teresh · 09-25-2005, 09:20 AM

I hear my thoughts constantly, but what's bizarre about it is that there's no voice to the thoughts, just words being accurately pronounced. This is probably just a weird thing to me, but thoughts in my head are more like disembodied whispers than a particular person speaking.

When talking to myself, I sometimes sign, sometimes speak.

Angel · 09-25-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelGirl

I can hear my thoughts all the time.. if you're speaking of daydreaming and thinking.. all the voices talking in my head.. then I can hear my thoughts. I sometimes sign as well.

Same here!

Tousi · 09-25-2005, 01:03 PM

What, exactly, do we mean by, "....hearing our thoughts...."? Seems like this question could also be asked of hearing people, too, no?

sequoias · 09-25-2005, 01:26 PM

I can hear my thoughts, I rarely see things in sign language in my mind, odd?
I can lipread and hear people talking to me, with hearing aids on.

JeepGirl · 09-25-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavender

aah.. ic that's interesting. I never knew u do have voices talking in ur head that's probably smthg had to do with this nerve makes u feel vibrated going up to ur head of ur voice. It's just my guessing. LOL

I ain't crazy though.. I'm a big thinker! lol

JeepGirl · 09-25-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

What, exactly, do we mean by, "....hearing our thoughts...."? Seems like this question could also be asked of hearing people, too, no?

Looks to me like do you hear/sign in your head when you're thinking.. that's what i assumed. like when you're sitting down thinking.. how do you think? sign.. or have voices in your thoughts?

jazzy · 09-25-2005, 06:15 PM

Where does thought come from?

How can anyone who has been deaf since birth can hear voice in thought? For me it is more alike feel voice in my thought than hear it.

Lavender · 09-25-2005, 07:01 PM

The one big thinker lol, wut was the cause that made u loss ur hearing?

(still readin'bk2 old posts)

fw001 · 09-25-2005, 07:42 PM

So.. you're profoundly deaf, dont wear hearing aids.. have you ever been able to hear?

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Originally Posted by RebelGirl

Really?.. well, I'm profoundly deaf and when I'm not wearing my hearing aids.. I do have voices talking in my head.. but.. I'm not so sure about those who don't wear them at all.. how they think.. I'm curious too.

RedFox · 09-25-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresh

I hear my thoughts constantly, but what's bizarre about it is that there's no voice to the thoughts, just words being accurately pronounced. This is probably just a weird thing to me, but thoughts in my head are more like disembodied whispers than a particular person speaking.

When talking to myself, I sometimes sign, sometimes speak.

I think like that, but I have no idea how accurately they're being pronounced. Sometimes I sign to myself, sometimes, I think or write or type to myself. When I'm at home, my sister sometimes gets annoyed about me signing to myself, so I use my computer and notebooks all day during summers.
When I dream, I usually know what others are saying without them signing anything or me needing to lipread them. Sometimes, I would sign in my sleep if the people in the dreams signed.

***VamPyroX*** · 09-25-2005, 08:41 PM

Hearing thoughts depends on how they perceive their thoughts. Remember, some deaf people may not know exactly how a word is pronounced. Saying it is almost like thinking it, unless they are spelling it out in their heads instead of saying it in their head. As I'm typing this, I'm talking to myself. I can talk for myself, so when I think of the words in my head... I can feel myself thinking as if I was talking. There will be times when I'm thinking and spelling instead of talking.

fw001 · 09-25-2005, 08:54 PM

That was what my question was pertaining to -- whether or not she had ever heard at any point in her life -- because if not, I dont quite get how you can concieve how sounds are supposed to sound, nevermind punctuation.. ie: how do you know what 'a' sounds like, if you've never heard the sound? People can learn to lipread and even speak without having ever heard sound, through cued speech or other speech therapy methods - but I dont think that would enable them to 'think' in sound.. maybe they 'think' in lipreading? smile.
I dont know.

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Hearing thoughts depends on how they perceive their thoughts. Remember, some deaf people may not know exactly how a word is pronounced. Saying it is almost like thinking it, unless they are spelling it out in their heads instead of saying it in their head. As I'm typing this, I'm talking to myself. I can talk for myself, so when I think of the words in my head... I can feel myself thinking as if I was talking. There will be times when I'm thinking and spelling instead of talking.

JeepGirl · 09-25-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavender

The one big thinker lol, wut was the cause that made u loss ur hearing?

(still readin'bk2 old posts)

Born deaf and its unknown..

JeepGirl · 09-25-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fw001

So.. you're profoundly deaf, dont wear hearing aids.. have you ever been able to hear?

I wear my hearing aid everyday.. When I'm not wearing it like going swimming, before bedtime, waking up in the am.. I do get all that voices rushing in my head constantly.. I guess its all coming from when I had my hearing aid on.. whenever I pick up sounds.. then take it out and everything is silent.. I get all the voices.

With hearing aid.. I can hear only about 70%
without in both ears are about 105 to 110%

fw001 · 09-25-2005, 10:10 PM

I see.

jazzy · 09-26-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelGirl

I wear my hearing aid everyday.. When I'm not wearing it like going swimming, before bedtime, waking up in the am.. I do get all that voices rushing in my head constantly.. I guess its all coming from when I had my hearing aid on.. whenever I pick up sounds.. then take it out and everything is silent.. I get all the voices.

With hearing aid.. I can hear only about 70%
without in both ears are about 105 to 110%

Ur serious, How come they told me HA did not benefits me when I asked new one long time ago. Your truly lucky if it works on you.

GalaxyAngel · 09-26-2005, 10:03 PM

I can hear in my thoughts. (In my head talking w/me) espically
My ears was kept echoes (repeatly) not sure barely understand.. most the time in my head kept talking w/me.. sound alike funny but I'm not crazy..

gnarlydorkette · 09-26-2005, 11:23 PM

I read my thoughts and sometime sign. No voice.
I read my thoughts as if I am watching CC in my mind...

yepper-- to show you how much the impact the CC made in my life (got my first CC box when I was 4 yr old)...

The only close my thoughts would be vocal was when my thoughts are being lipsynced. NO voice... just my imaginary lips moving to each word of my "mental CC"...

Somebody in my HS did ask me how do I think.. I was like, "um, I can think like everybody" and took offence. He rephrased his question: "What do you think-- in voice or ...?" I got it and told him that I think mainly in ASL and written words being "typed out". The interpreter doubted me and wanted to correct me ...

that interp was totally inept with Deaf culture...

Sometime I think in abstract... I will want to say something but I find it very hard time to say it in English or even in ASL.. I KNOW what I am thinking but I have to disassemble it for somebody to understand me... There is not always a tangnent element to my thoughts... it is like a "feeling" of that thought that only I do understand, no body else. Ah I think I have alienated more people after making this remark.

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JeepGirl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In the South Posts: 6,343	I can hear my thoughts all the time.. if you're speaking of daydreaming and thinking.. all the voices talking in my head.. then I can hear my thoughts. I sometimes sign as well. __________________ ""When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us""

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Lavender Season's Greetings Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 594	I don't think they can hear their thoughts becuz they don't wear hearing aids. If they don't read a book or never study in spelling words, they think only signs. __________________

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Lavender Season's Greetings Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 594	aah.. ic that's interesting. I never knew u do have voices talking in ur head that's probably smthg had to do with this nerve makes u feel vibrated going up to ur head of ur voice. It's just my guessing. LOL __________________

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deafdyke So NOT a Princess! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 6,684	Depends....I think in English, but can think in Sign too....a lot of folks think in Sign......

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jamielee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 186	ok so more specifically, deaf people without HA... anyother thoughts on this???Because if you have never herd talking of any sort or any sound, how would they know that what they are hearing is speech!? hmmmm, I dunno. I dont know if I am wording this the right way. Would it be ok to say that deaf people think in ASL or SL rather than english? because it is their first language??

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Teresh Search for Truth Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,078	I hear my thoughts constantly, but what's bizarre about it is that there's no voice to the thoughts, just words being accurately pronounced. This is probably just a weird thing to me, but thoughts in my head are more like disembodied whispers than a particular person speaking. When talking to myself, I sometimes sign, sometimes speak.

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,238	What, exactly, do we mean by, "....hearing our thoughts...."? Seems like this question could also be asked of hearing people, too, no?

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jazzy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,196	Where does thought come from? How can anyone who has been deaf since birth can hear voice in thought? For me it is more alike feel voice in my thought than hear it.

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Lavender Season's Greetings Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 594	The one big thinker lol, wut was the cause that made u loss ur hearing? (still readin'bk2 old posts) __________________

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*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 27,844	Hearing thoughts depends on how they perceive their thoughts. Remember, some deaf people may not know exactly how a word is pronounced. Saying it is almost like thinking it, unless they are spelling it out in their heads instead of saying it in their head. As I'm typing this, I'm talking to myself. I can talk for myself, so when I think of the words in my head... I can feel myself thinking as if I was talking. There will be times when I'm thinking and spelling instead of talking. __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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GalaxyAngel That's me! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Alberta,Canada Posts: 13,541	I can hear in my thoughts. (In my head talking w/me) espically My ears was kept echoes (repeatly) not sure barely understand.. most the time in my head kept talking w/me.. sound alike funny but I'm not crazy.. __________________ Parent's proud our children.

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gnarlydorkette is leaving for good. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny Diego in Califunny Posts: 1,764	I read my thoughts and sometime sign. No voice. I read my thoughts as if I am watching CC in my mind... yepper-- to show you how much the impact the CC made in my life (got my first CC box when I was 4 yr old)... The only close my thoughts would be vocal was when my thoughts are being lipsynced. NO voice... just my imaginary lips moving to each word of my "mental CC"... Somebody in my HS did ask me how do I think.. I was like, "um, I can think like everybody" and took offence. He rephrased his question: "What do you think-- in voice or ...?" I got it and told him that I think mainly in ASL and written words being "typed out". The interpreter doubted me and wanted to correct me ... that interp was totally inept with Deaf culture... Sometime I think in abstract... I will want to say something but I find it very hard time to say it in English or even in ASL.. I KNOW what I am thinking but I have to disassemble it for somebody to understand me... There is not always a tangnent element to my thoughts... it is like a "feeling" of that thought that only I do understand, no body else. Ah I think I have alienated more people after making this remark.

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