KreenAkrore

So I was hoping some of you can put in your opinions and thoughts, I have a paper for a ASL class for college I wanted to, gather opinions and see if it was possible for a Hearing person to be considered Deaf with capital D.

I'm looking more toward someone who is proud of having a Deaf family or Deaf friends, a CODA. Who is extremely involved in the Deaf community.

Any response would be appreciated.

Deafness

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Frisky Feline

I do not see any big D for hearing members here. =? I know one who was hearing with big D and left last year. I have been here for a long time. unless anyone can tell me if i am not mistaken.

KreenAkrore

I'm not actually looking to find someone that fits the criteria, just asking around to see if something like this is possible

Frisky Feline

right like i said, what you were asking around to see if something like this is possible but not here. I would be glad if members with D attitude is here then i d be thrilled. By the way, Im Deaf.

Anij

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I think in certain situations CODAs & SODAs can be Deaf socially & culturally.

That being said, they'd always state that they're hearing. You'd never see a "D" CODA/SODA sign they're "deaf", they'd always say they're hearing with a Deaf family.

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KreenAkrore

Yeah that's what I mean.

Appreciate the feedback.

Of course they would always say they are Hearing, but you can kind of look aside from that and see them as Deaf because of the social and cultural background.

drphil

Since I became bilateral DEAF-December 20, 2006- I view as a condition not a cultural configuration intertwined with "hearing people oppression".
Very easy to confirm-just go swimming and disconnect my Cochlear Implant-very quiet!

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CrazyPaul

NO NO NO, hearing people who are CODA, ASL interpreters or fluent in ASL are not considered deaf or Deaf at all, no matter what.

Frisky Feline

Speaking of attitude, opinions and commons that are same as Deaf people. There are plenty of people with D. Sure, I know several hearing people who are very involved with Deaf people.

like my friend who happens to be interpreter. She's a CODA. At first i met her and i thought she was Deaf due to her attitude and behavior and her ASL skill. SHe had to inform me right away " hey, just let you know i am hearing" for a minute or two. I was like " ohhhhhhhhh you are hearing, thank you for letting me know!" lol so we settle down on where we stood, and i often forget that she is hearing. SO she is a Deaf hearing. got it? Her opinions are purretty much similiar as I do and my Deaf friends. SO that is what OP talking about. Yes Hearing people can be Deaf hearing.

CrazyPaul

WHAT? Deaf hearing? I have never heard of it in my lifetime until now. That's so weird!

Frisky Feline

Its my words. Just give you an example. Hearing people with D is the same thing.

Bottesini

It would be more accurate just to ask if hearing people can get involved in the Deaf community.

Of course they can, but I don't really consider them as Deaf either.

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drphil

If one considers Deafness a cultural configuration rather than a condition than it makes "sense" that hearing people using ASL et al are culturally Deaf.

Apparently it is unresolved if "hearing culturally Deaf" are "oppressors of the deaf"?

Could be that " deaf Militants" upset?

More discussions in Sociology-culture

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whatdidyousay!

I call myself HOH when wearing my HA and tell people I am just about deaf when not wearing a HA. I can't talk on my Clarity phone unless I wear my HA too. And the phone has the loudest volume one you can buy.

CrazyPaul

Me: "Are you hearing with D?"

Hearing person: "What?"

Me: "Do you hang around with deaf people alot?"

Hearing person: "Yes"

Me: "Oh, you are hearing with D."

Hearing person: "WTF?"

Frisky Feline

LOL whatever you wish you want to call it. I make up for it All i know is that hearing people with Deaf attitude is good enough for me.

Mimsy

I agree and think it's like some friends who have cornrowed their hair, talk ebonics and immerse themselves in Black culture when they are White. They aren't Black no matter how deep in Black culture they are.


(But maybe I just don't have the correct understanding of Deaf with a capital D, I thought I did.)

CrazyPaul

IMO, Deaf means deaf individuals. Just like the names of deaf schools and organizations.
EX: New Jersey School for the Deaf
National Assocation of the Deaf

More people now say "I am Deaf." Which means "I am deaf with pride".

Same thing with some black people who like to call themselves Black (= black with pride).

I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

Kalista

I really HATE, they label me as Hearing Impaired !! grrrrr

I prefer, Deaf instead of deaf or Hearing Impaired...

drphil

Shouldn't one's actual physical condition: re DEAF- "silence" or partial Hearing be labelled as such?

Aside: I became bilateral DEAF December 20, 2006 and duly state as a fact: DEAF

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Mimsy

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong:

deaf=you can't hear
Deaf=you can't hear and are part of the Deaf Culture

There are lots of deaf that are not Deaf.

Did I get it?

Irish

That's what I've always thought as well.

drphil

There is another group of DEAF persons- use Cochlear Implants and don't "belong to the Deaf community/culture".

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Bottesini

No , those people are just deaf.

You are the only one in the situation you describe.

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drphil

Whether DEAF persons using a Cochlear Implant and not "subscribing" to "cultural ideology"- using ASL et al re deaf condition are a majority/minority-unknown.

Was the "fear" of Harlan Lane et al re that Cochlear Implants are "the instruments of genocide to the Deaf community"-accurate??
Also, wasn't the fear that persons using a Cochlear Implant would NOT learn ASL et al-overblown or in fact accurate?
Isn't there some "suggestions of the above" here in AllDeaf.com?

Not unduly concerned at the present time.

As noted before studying " deaf culture"a unit of Sociology-never boring!

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CrazyPaul

Yes, you got it. When people say "I am Deaf", they mean that they are deaf and proud to be a part of Deaf Culture. That's what I meant when I said "deaf with pride".

Old people with hearing loss don't say that because they are not a part of Deaf Culture. "I can't hear you because I am deaf so let me get my hearing aid."

Frisky Feline

Deaf is a part of Deaf culture that I can relate with, have in common, similiar experiences, comfortable with the kind of Deaf people without feeling awkward, without feeling of struggling, ASL, very communicative, feel normal and more.

Bebonang

To make you more clearly understandable of what is deaf and Deaf.

deaf is that a person can not hear sounds at all. It is a medical term for it.

Deaf is when deaf people are associated with ASL or sign language along with Deaf Culture. It is not pride but they are happy to be in the Deaf communities able to communicate in sign language.

Without sign language or ASL, you remain as oral deaf. Not the capital D. See the difference.

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deafdyke

Beo, not quite. I think there's another catagory, where the kid may not even have gone to deaf school/program and may not be fluent in ASL, but is still very much "almost Deaf".....like they don't view their deafness negatively, the way some people do.....

Bottesini

Still doesn't make them Deaf. Bebonang gave a good description.

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