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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:33 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I have just one problem and that is the exploitation for monetary gain.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:39 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Umm, actually, the way your posts sound like to me that you have no respect for Deaf culture. Thought you would like to know some feedback about your attitude. Just saying.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:42 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I have just one problem and that is the exploitation for monetary gain.
Let's hope that the monetary gain in this case will be minimal, if at all.

In other words, the book will be a flop.
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I saw some videos of hers and I was not pissed off at all. I don't understand what some of you complain about. It's really nothing.
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I don't think she's trying to be deceptive about it but perhaps ignorance is playing a role. But no matter she has every right to publish a book and if she makes a profit so be it. If not, well, people will smile. At least the people know what to expect in her book compared to a couple of deaf people who helped advertised a published a book (full of blank pages) by a deaf person and most of the people who bought were deaf themselves who had no idea what exactly inside the book except they went by what the book cover said and took the Deaf author's word (and his scammers' word, too). Many were mad for the deceptive and false advertising. That was somewhat recent, too.
" full of blank pages by a deaf person? " what title of book is that?

and you mentioned false advertising which was recent? what is the link
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I saw some videos of hers and I was not pissed off at all. I don't understand what some of you complain about. It's really nothing.
Her videos did say, "Be Please.", "Bag of noses.", "Your small breasts, you hot?", "Buy where? Want-want-want clouds above horizon," and etc.

I seriously hope nobody will come to me and to sign mistranslated sentences to me.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 04:17 PM   #97 (permalink)
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" full of blank pages by a deaf person? " what title of book is that?

and you mentioned false advertising which was recent? what is the link
I think he referred to James Kittell who sold something about "What Audiologists Know About Deaf Culture (or Deaf Community?)". But, he only sold blank books with a few sentences, so it was really rip off.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 04:23 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Sounds like he was basically trying to say Audiologists don't know much about Deaf Culture or the Deaf Community (which isn't altogether untrue). But that isn't an excuse for selling blank books. That's just as bad as this book of incorrect signs.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 04:29 PM   #99 (permalink)
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Oh boy. Indeed She is horrible at dirty signs. Her signs were completely wrong concepts and facial expression poorly. She has been clearly displayed of her true ignorance with the deaf community on her behalf.
no no, she IGNORED Deaf community, not on her behalf, she flatly didnt get a shit. no behalfs at all.

I guess what you probably meant she ignored the fact she should have gone on behalf, but even THAT, I DON'T want!, I NEVER ever ****ing want a hearing do anything with Deaf peoples' values and cutlures on 'behalf', Hearies have NO BUSINESS afterall they have cause way too much damage, and why should we trust them? I don't!!

Interpreters, -professional ones only, QUALIFIED that is, AND I also believe we should have a board of representative So Deaf people can decide to black list, ban or reprimand, or even deregister an interpreter is they misbehave, get rid of interpreters' asociation..."professional development' my ass!!
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no no, she IGNORED Deaf community, not on her behalf, she flatly didnt get a shit. no behalfs at all.

I guess what you probably meant she ignored the fact she should have gone on behalf, but even THAT, I DON'T want!, I NEVER ever ****ing want a hearing do anything with Deaf peoples' values and cutlures on 'behalf', Hearies have NO BUSINESS afterall they have cause way too much damage, and why should we trust them? I don't!!

Interpreters, -professional ones only, QUALIFIED that is, AND I also believe we should have a board of representative So Deaf people can decide to black list, ban or reprimand, or even deregister an interpreter is they misbehave, get rid of interpreters' asociation..."professional development' my ass!!
Lol maybe i wrote a toooo long sentence. Ok in a short sentence, she is idiot.
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Actually, those Deaf people brought it upon themselves to protest. She just got free advertising/publicity about her book. No game. It just happened.
Kind of like Rush Limbaugh, yes?
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Thank you for the feedback, sorry you feel that way.
Funny, because there are Deaf people who do agree with the protest and those who don't agree with the protest think it is stupid. Just because one has an opinion that might be contrary to what other people feel has nothing to do with disrespecting "Deaf culture" for having an alternative opinion. Otherwise to say that is a cop out just because people won't agree with ya.
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Kind of like Rush Limbaugh, yes?
What?
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" full of blank pages by a deaf person? " what title of book is that?

and you mentioned false advertising which was recent? what is the link
No words from koko. I figure out that koko are making up about the blank book and false advertising. Thats OK.
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I think he referred to James Kittell who sold something about "What Audiologists Know About Deaf Culture (or Deaf Community?)". But, he only sold blank books with a few sentences, so it was really rip off.
Yeah, that's the guy. It was all over the "deaf" internet about that stupid book once people found out about it. A lot of deaf people got angry when they got their book in the mail only to find out it was full of blank pages.
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No words from koko. I figure out that koko are making up about the blank book and false advertising. Thats OK.
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Thank you indeed, i have heard about it. i rather koko to reply but he didnt. I suppose he's making things up about false advertising what he just posted it here.
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Yep. It was so easy, even you could find it.
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Yeah, and there are lots more out there, too.
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Yep. It was so easy, even you could find it.
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Yeah. A lot of Deaf people didn't appreciate being fooled with false adverts and pour money into a totally useless book to them. You can find more of them in Google.
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He missed the part where you went back to school for computer studies.
No studies needed when using Google search if you're already familiar with it.
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Yeah, that's the guy. It was all over the "deaf" internet about that stupid book once people found out about it. A lot of deaf people got angry when they got their book in the mail only to find out it was full of blank pages.
Yes, I can imagine that. At the least, he did make an apology, but I still commend his work for ASLE. His DVDs really helped me a lot, but I only practice a bit... due to personal plans, college stuff, and etc.
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no no, she IGNORED Deaf community, not on her behalf, she flatly didnt get a shit. no behalfs at all.

I guess what you probably meant she ignored the fact she should have gone on behalf, but even THAT, I DON'T want!, I NEVER ever ****ing want a hearing do anything with Deaf peoples' values and cutlures on 'behalf', Hearies have NO BUSINESS afterall they have cause way too much damage, and why should we trust them? I don't!!

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Here is a whole laundry list of problems.

Starting with there is a shortage of qualified interpreters, especially male interpreters. I've seen a lot of people start out gung ho to learn sign language as an easy way to earn big money. When they find out ASL isn't that easy to master they drop out.

Next is the problem that many terps feel that because they passed the board exams they are in fact the experts on ASL and many think they know more about "correct" ASL than Deaf children of Deaf adults. I'm not deaf and it irritates me to be told, "You are signing the old correct way. This is the 'NEW' correct way."

Next is the problem of money. Hearies without jobs look at $20 an hour as an offer from heaven. Many employers with tight budgets don't want to fork over the money for a fully qualified interpreter when they can talk a minimally skilled person to do it for one sixth the pay of the fully qualified interpreter.

The bolded part.

Deaf people, in my view, have lost way to much control over ASL, Official dictionaries, and the standards interpreters should abide by.

DEFINITELY What is and is not ASL should be decided on by a panel of culturally Deaf people selected by culturally Deaf people.

Certainly all lexicographers should be Deaf. (They may be, I don't know.)
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Yes, I can imagine that. At the least, he did make an apology, but I still commend his work for ASLE. His DVDs really helped me a lot, but I only practice a bit... due to personal plans, college stuff, and etc.
Ever hear of the expression "a fly by night guy"?
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Here is a whole laundry list of problems.

Starting with there is a shortage of qualified interpreters, especially male interpreters. I've seen a lot of people start out gung ho to learn sign language as an easy way to earn big money. When they find out ASL isn't that easy to master they drop out.

Next is the problem that many terps feel that because they passed the board exams they are in fact the experts on ASL and many think they know more about "correct" ASL than Deaf children of Deaf adults. I'm not deaf and it irritates me to be told, "You are signing the old correct way. This is the 'NEW' correct way."

Next is the problem of money. Hearies without jobs look at $20 an hour as an offer from heaven. Many employers with tight budgets don't want to fork over the money for a fully qualified interpreter when they can talk a minimally skilled person to do it for one sixth the pay of the fully qualified interpreter.

The bolded part.

Deaf people, in my view, have lost way to much control over ASL, Official dictionaries, and the standards interpreters should abide by.

DEFINITELY What is and is not ASL should be decided on by a panel of culturally Deaf people selected by culturally Deaf people.

Certainly all lexicographers should be Deaf. (They may be, I don't know.)
im aware of that...
but we can still figure out ways...i got ideas...but to be broadcasted here anyway I dont trust audist lurkers...
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but we can still figure out ways...i got ideas...but to be broadcasted here anyway I dont trust audist lurkers...
I remember in my sophomore year, in band, my section leader at the time was my enemy. He always acted like he knew everything about the deaf culture. So one time we had our sectional, and we were taking a break. He decided to give me a sign name. He signed Deaf, with a K. because my name is Kirsten. And a lot of my friends laughed at that idea and I felt hurt because I mean yes I am deaf but i can do more than that. My sign name is signed as working with a K, my old teacher who was deaf gave me that sign name because i'm always a hard worker and that name stuck with me ever since.

It's disappointing how many hearing people think they can make up any signs and then brag saying "oh thats not the right sign, THIS is the right sign." I have had hearing people done that to me before. I feel like we, as deaf people, can be better teachers to the hearing about this. I mean theres always an easy way and the hard way. Sometimes we have to do the hard way. It's disappointing. And with this "dirty signs" thing going on, thats even more depressing. I mean, where's the common sense? I think this young woman needs to go back into school and do another course on deaf culture and ASL. If her college sees this i'm sure this will be an embarrassment for them. Including her family. But i highly doubt it.
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