I did Not Know Small Dogs Could Be So Fussy! - Page 2

**Bottesini** · 07-25-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

Marty might cry if he is fenced in and wake up people in my building. I hate to take him out late at night as we have a tons of chipmunks in our yard and Marty bark like crazy when he see one running around and he has real loud bark for small dog! I am up at 12 Am or later as the meds he take made him crazy with thirst and he drink a lot of water! And it looks like he will need to be on meds along time!! Marty been on meds since I had him!! Poor doggie!!

Even if he has to take medication, it is obvious that he really loves you. I bet he knows he got a good deal when you adopted him.

whatdidyousay! · 07-25-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Even if he has to take medication, it is obvious that he really loves you. I bet he knows he got a good deal when you adopted him.

The probable with being on meds it make Marty really hungry and thirsty and as you know the more a dog drink and eat the more he need to go out! So I have take him out a lot, and some nights I am just too tried to stay up so late. I am not young anymore! Marty get so thirsty he will try to lick the sweat of my water bottle!

Beach girl · 07-25-2011, 09:47 PM

Aw, poor Marty! I hope eventually he gets better and won't have to be on meds for the rest of his life.

Re: small dogs and the "queen of the hop" behavior: sometimes this happens because people let small dogs get away with stuff they would NEVER let big dogs get away with. Like jumping up on you, begging for food from the table, being overly mouthy in play, and so on. You wouldn't let a German Shephard jump on you because it would be chest-high and you'd get knocked over, but an itty-bitty l'il ol' cutie Pom or Yorkie - oh, they can jump up, because they're still only shin-high when they do!

And that's how people end up with spoiled, bratty little small dogs, because they've trained the dogs that they can do whatever they please, instead of training whatever good behavior the owner claims to prefer.

webexplorer · 07-25-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

Marty might cry if he is fenced in and wake up people in my building. I hate to take him out late at night as we have a tons of chipmunks in our yard and Marty bark like crazy when he see one running around and he has real loud bark for small dog! I am up at 12 Am or later as the meds he take made him crazy with thirst and he drink a lot of water! And it looks like he will need to be on meds along time!! Marty been on meds since I had him!! Poor doggie!!

That's true about crying or barking. I didn't think of that one. I didn't read your post about the medicine, and how long you adopted your dog? What kind of the medicine if you don't mind?

**LDNanna** · 07-25-2011, 11:39 PM

You all have some great ideas and all of your pups sound cute and smart. (not as cute and smart as my own though, ha)

My kids (dogs) are spoiled horribly. They have a dog door and they go in and out at any time they wish. Sadly my back yard looks like a game of tic tac toe. I do clean it every weekend. I cant during the week. The heat wave bakes everything though so it works out well. So easy to clean then.

Beach girl · 07-25-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LDNanna

You all have some great ideas and all of your pups sound cute and smart. (not as cute and smart as my own though, ha)
My kids (dogs) are spoiled horribly. They have a dog door and they go in and out at any time they wish. Sadly my back yard looks like a game of tic tac toe. I do clean it every weekend. I cant during the week. The heat wave bakes everything though so it works out well. So easy to clean then.

It is an interesting fact of dog owners' lives that

a) all dogs are cute and smart

b) no dog is ever as cute and smart as one's own.

**LDNanna** · 07-25-2011, 11:57 PM

It is also a known fact that cute and intelligent dogs mirror their human companions.

Beach girl · 07-26-2011, 12:02 AM

Oh, that is absolutely true. Without question.

dogmom · 07-26-2011, 11:17 AM

Beach Girl, I really agree with you regarding the small dogs getting away with stuff - "oh how cute!" while even a certain perceived look from one of mine is enough to send people across the street <sometimes desired on my part

> OR to get the wrong kind of attention in the form of police/BSL and so on.

Dogs do what is reinforced for THEM; I tell this to people in our classes all the time.
So - even ONE time, someone looks at, talks to, laughs/smiles at, shifts her body away or toward - a dog who is jumping up on you, or the table or whatever - ONE TIME - then that dog has been reinforced for that behavior. It doesn't matter if the person never meant to engage the dog, or doesn't like dogs, or actually wanted the dog to go away - the dog doesn't see it that way. Slot machine effect - if there's a chance what worked for the dog before MAY work again - he'll do it again.
Behaviors can also be self-reinforcing - dog LIKES jumping, just likes it - the act of jumping up might be more positively reinforcing than any punisher the person may try.

Beach girl · 07-26-2011, 11:50 AM

That's when you enroll said dog in agility class.

My theory of dog-training: always provide an outlet for what the dog naturally likes to do. Corollary: do not buy a breed of dog that likes to do something you just can't stand (digging, herding, barking, following a scent, whatever that behavior might be).

dogmom · 07-26-2011, 12:13 PM

this is true, I've really enjoyed the agility I've taken with my guys!
and yes - providing means for dogs to do what is their natural or breed-specific tendency <or a simulation> is certainly very important, too.

I took Treibbal with my youngest Rottie - herding with exercise balls - lotta fun

whatdidyousay! · 07-26-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Beach girl

Aw, poor Marty! I hope eventually he gets better and won't have to be on meds for the rest of his life.

Re: small dogs and the "queen of the hop" behavior: sometimes this happens because people let small dogs get away with stuff they would NEVER let big dogs get away with. Like jumping up on you, begging for food from the table, being overly mouthy in play, and so on. You wouldn't let a German Shephard jump on you because it would be chest-high and you'd get knocked over, but an itty-bitty l'il ol' cutie Pom or Yorkie - oh, they can jump up, because they're still only shin-high when they do!

And that's how people end up with spoiled, bratty little small dogs, because they've trained the dogs that they can do whatever they please, instead of training whatever good behavior the owner claims to prefer.

I will not allowed Marty to jump on people, or be mouthy , I am guilty of feeding him while I am eating and need to stop doing that. I am trying really hard not give Marty the small dog syndrome, I do not want him to be a spoil brat! I will only carry him when he looks really wiped out or when the driveway it really hot!

whatdidyousay! · 07-26-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LDNanna

It is also a known fact that cute and intelligent dogs mirror their human companions.

OOH ,then I much be cute and smart as Marty is! LOL!!

whatdidyousay! · 07-26-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

That's true about crying or barking. I didn't think of that one. I didn't read your post about the medicine, and how long you adopted your dog? What kind of the medicine if you don't mind?

Marty is taking twp meds, aminophylline and prednisone . Marty is on steroids
so he took an agility contest he could be cheating!! The drugs are making so hungry that is driving him crazy!! I adopted Marty April 6 , 11. The shelter did not know when his BD is so I pick the day I adopted
Marty to be his BD . He could be 3 years old already .

whatdidyousay! · 07-26-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LDNanna

You all have some great ideas and all of your pups sound cute and smart. (not as cute and smart as my own though, ha)

My kids (dogs) are spoiled horribly. They have a dog door and they go in and out at any time they wish. Sadly my back yard looks like a game of tic tac toe. I do clean it every weekend. I cant during the week. The heat wave bakes everything though so it works out well. So easy to clean then.

I would not want dog door in my home not with all the chipmunks and rodents we have around here!

whatdidyousay! · 08-29-2011, 12:17 PM

Someone dumped out potting soil that was still in the shape of the pot.
Along come Marty the mighty hunter , he see this dangerous animal on the ground and touch it with his paw then jumped back waiting to be eaten alive!
Marty attacked it again with his paw and I pick up the the 'animal' to show my silly dog it not alive! But he said no way and he goes in for the 'big kill 'and bite
this horrible thing and get a mouthful of potting soil! I was LOL ! I wish I had camera to record it , as it was really funny to see! I told a neighbor and she said I much feel very safe now!

dogmom · 08-29-2011, 12:23 PM

Marty has SAVED you from the menacing potted PLANT!

Beach girl · 08-29-2011, 12:41 PM

Yay, Marty! What a brave little dog!!

(Um, hope you washed out his mouth thoroughly. Who knows if there was plant fertilizer or other things in that soil!)

**Bottesini** · 08-29-2011, 12:44 PM

The neighborhood can sleep well with Marty on the job!

whatdidyousay! · 08-29-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

The neighborhood can sleep well with Marty on the job!

The Killer Tomatoes Plants better watch out now with Marty on the job!

whatdidyousay! · 08-29-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beach girl

Yay, Marty! What a brave little dog!!

(Um, hope you washed out his mouth thoroughly. Who knows if there was plant fertilizer or other things in that soil!)

I got it out of his mouth right away! I did not think he was going to attack it! LOL!

**Oddball** · 08-29-2011, 07:05 PM

Hudson is a fussy dog who likes to poop on the certain spot. Geez.

I think he is an excellent bug spotter!!

whatdidyousay! · 08-29-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oddball

Hudson is a fussy dog who likes to poop on the certain spot. Geez.

I think he is an excellent bug spotter!!

Are there particular insects that dogs should not eat? - Yahoo! Answers

someone posted that you not let your dogs eat any bugs as the bug could eaten a bug killer! I never thought of that!

Beach girl · 08-29-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

Are there particular insects that dogs should not eat? - Yahoo! Answers

someone posted that you not let your dogs eat any bugs as the bug could eaten a bug killer! I never thought of that!

Very true! Also if your neighbors use pesticide or fertilizer on their lawns, do not let Marty walk on that treated grass. He might lick his feet afterwards and get sick from it.

whatdidyousay! · 08-30-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Beach girl

Very true! Also if your neighbors use pesticide or fertilizer on their lawns, do not let Marty walk on that treated grass. He might lick his feet afterwards and get sick from it.

I try to keep Marty off the lawn when it been treated, little flags on left in the lawn to warn people. I found out the last time our lawn was treated the flags where NOT put down!! There is a young couple next door that have a toddler playing in the grass all the time! I keep Marty away from public trash cans as I have no idea if any poison it spayed around the cans to kill rodents!

07-26-2011, 11:17 AM	#39 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,510	Beach Girl, I really agree with you regarding the small dogs getting away with stuff - "oh how cute!" while even a certain perceived look from one of mine is enough to send people across the street <sometimes desired on my part> OR to get the wrong kind of attention in the form of police/BSL and so on. Dogs do what is reinforced for THEM; I tell this to people in our classes all the time. So - even ONE time, someone looks at, talks to, laughs/smiles at, shifts her body away or toward - a dog who is jumping up on you, or the table or whatever - ONE TIME - then that dog has been reinforced for that behavior. It doesn't matter if the person never meant to engage the dog, or doesn't like dogs, or actually wanted the dog to go away - the dog doesn't see it that way. Slot machine effect - if there's a chance what worked for the dog before MAY work again - he'll do it again. Behaviors can also be self-reinforcing - dog LIKES jumping, just likes it - the act of jumping up might be more positively reinforcing than any punisher the person may try.

08-29-2011, 12:17 PM	#46 (permalink)
whatdidyousay! Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 8,857	Marty made his first Big KILL! Someone dumped out potting soil that was still in the shape of the pot. Along come Marty the mighty hunter , he see this dangerous animal on the ground and touch it with his paw then jumped back waiting to be eaten alive! Marty attacked it again with his paw and I pick up the the 'animal' to show my silly dog it not alive! But he said no way and he goes in for the 'big kill 'and bite this horrible thing and get a mouthful of potting soil! I was LOL ! I wish I had camera to record it , as it was really funny to see! I told a neighbor and she said I much feel very safe now! Bottesini and Beach girl like this.

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dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,510	Marty has SAVED you from the menacing potted PLANT! whatdidyousay! likes this.

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07-25-2011, 09:47 PM	#33 (permalink)
Beach girl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: northern Virginia in winter; NC in summer Posts: 3,760	Aw, poor Marty! I hope eventually he gets better and won't have to be on meds for the rest of his life. Re: small dogs and the "queen of the hop" behavior: sometimes this happens because people let small dogs get away with stuff they would NEVER let big dogs get away with. Like jumping up on you, begging for food from the table, being overly mouthy in play, and so on. You wouldn't let a German Shephard jump on you because it would be chest-high and you'd get knocked over, but an itty-bitty l'il ol' cutie Pom or Yorkie - oh, they can jump up, because they're still only shin-high when they do! And that's how people end up with spoiled, bratty little small dogs, because they've trained the dogs that they can do whatever they please, instead of training whatever good behavior the owner claims to prefer.

07-25-2011, 11:39 PM	#35 (permalink)
LDNanna Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,696	You all have some great ideas and all of your pups sound cute and smart. (not as cute and smart as my own though, ha) My kids (dogs) are spoiled horribly. They have a dog door and they go in and out at any time they wish. Sadly my back yard looks like a game of tic tac toe. I do clean it every weekend. I cant during the week. The heat wave bakes everything though so it works out well. So easy to clean then.

07-25-2011, 11:57 PM	#37 (permalink)
LDNanna Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,696	It is also a known fact that cute and intelligent dogs mirror their human companions.

07-26-2011, 12:02 AM	#38 (permalink)
Beach girl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: northern Virginia in winter; NC in summer Posts: 3,760	Oh, that is absolutely true. Without question.

07-26-2011, 11:50 AM	#40 (permalink)
Beach girl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: northern Virginia in winter; NC in summer Posts: 3,760	That's when you enroll said dog in agility class. My theory of dog-training: always provide an outlet for what the dog naturally likes to do. Corollary: do not buy a breed of dog that likes to do something you just can't stand (digging, herding, barking, following a scent, whatever that behavior might be).

07-26-2011, 12:13 PM	#41 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,510	this is true, I've really enjoyed the agility I've taken with my guys! and yes - providing means for dogs to do what is their natural or breed-specific tendency <or a simulation> is certainly very important, too. I took Treibbal with my youngest Rottie - herding with exercise balls - lotta fun

08-29-2011, 12:41 PM	#48 (permalink)
Beach girl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: northern Virginia in winter; NC in summer Posts: 3,760	Yay, Marty! What a brave little dog!! (Um, hope you washed out his mouth thoroughly. Who knows if there was plant fertilizer or other things in that soil!)

08-29-2011, 07:05 PM	#52 (permalink)
Oddball Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Toxic State Posts: 4,574	Hudson is a fussy dog who likes to poop on the certain spot. Geez. I think he is an excellent bug spotter!!