Never ever declaw a cat... - Page 8

Defee · 11-04-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VanG

BTW- Doctor Cow has 2 cats. One of them is declaw and is doing good so far. Does that make Doctor Cow bad doctor? She didn't declaw the cat at all. She took cat from other family to take good care of it.

Awww, Gus, the pug is sooo cute!
My son has a pug they have recently adopted!
Their old dog, Jessie had died so they adopted this
pug...I think they named him, Oscar!..I saw a pic
of him and he is soooo cute! I will meet him on
Nov 14th when i fly to Oklahoma for a visit..hehe...

PuyoPiyo · 11-04-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Declawing a cat is animal cruelty and should be banned.

Declawed cats tend to walk abnormally back on their heels rather than on their entire pads because of the chronic pain at the end of their severed fingers and toes. They often develop chronic arthritis and as the front toe pads shrink, chronic bone infections are common. So many cats find it painful to use the litter box, develop a conditioned aversion to using the box, and become un-housebroken. This is why many declawed cats are put up for adoption or are euthanized. They may also bite more, and become defensive when handled because their paws are hurting and infected.

Declawing (Onychectomy) of Cats

If you are worried about your furniture - DON'T get a cat.

Fuzzy

I am very passed on this thread, but I LOVE your last quote!

Yeah I would NEVER declaw my cat, even though she is very bitch and would attack anyone who pissed her off with her claws, ruining some of my furnitures with her claws, etc. Many of my friends have been suggesting me to declaw my cat, and I told them "No because I think it is very disrespectfully to cat's nature". I believe the claws is very important for cat's pleasure, to strenching their body (HEALTHY!), to catch the mouse or any small animals for their foods (HEALTHY!), to pull things while the cat feel so much organism (HEALTHY!), to itching their own body (HEALTHY!)there is many things so important for cat to have the claws.

Claws is cat's guide to their own comfortable!

I believe people who declawing the cat are treating the cat like their stuffed toy animals who can't defend themselves, can't itching themselves, can't strench themselves, can't predatoring other animals, etc etc!!

Liebling:-))) · 11-04-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Then we agree that claws won't always save a cat's life.

It´s same with human and animal as well... The fingertips and claws WON´T always save human´s and animal´s life.

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It's not "forbidden"; it just isn't logical.

Yes it´s pretty logical to compare because human and animal have bones.

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Do we compare neutering animals without their permission with sterilizing humans without their permission? Do we compare selling animals with selling humans?

Your post make no sense to me...

For your information, I don´t sell human and animal to anyone for money but give human up for an adoption for reasons and give animal to new home for reasons is my belief.

The vet don´t have any sex protection for animals. Should I allow animals to breed more babies and then let babies to kill by someone else?

Please use your common sense.

Kaitin · 11-04-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Yes, I do not wish to make the war but express my own feeling what I thought about declaw and disagree with declaw issues but I show my respect on the pet owners instead of insult/judge them. I tried to make positive posts with information which is good education for everyone. I see nothing wrong to agree to disagree in polite way like what we did at some debated threads.

Yes: "nothing wrong to agree to disagree in polite way" and "positive posts with information which is good education for everyone". Maybe in the whole history fighting on the internet changed ONE person's mind. No, probably not.

OMG! I think the thread killed this kitten!

VanG · 11-04-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

My opinion is declawing is inhumane, an animal abuse, and barbarian practice and pple who declaw their pets are abusing the animal. Period.

Fuzzy

We all know what your opinion is about but you really don't need to use those harsh word to insult us all like that. This is uncall! You know what. What going around will go back to you. So be that what you want to be by using harsh language against us. Gee

VanG · 11-04-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Defee

Awww, Gus, the pug is sooo cute!
My son has a pug they have recently adopted!
Their old dog, Jessie had died so they adopted this
pug...I think they named him, Oscar!..I saw a pic
of him and he is soooo cute! I will meet him on
Nov 14th when i fly to Oklahoma for a visit..hehe...

Enjoy your time with your son and new pug. Let me tell you- Don't stick your fact close for that nose to sneeze at you. YIKE. But enjoy the time.

Back to topic.

(Sigh)

PuyoPiyo · 11-04-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaitin

Yes: "nothing wrong to agree to disagree in polite way" and "positive posts with information which is good education for everyone". Maybe in the whole history fighting on the internet changed ONE person's mind. No, probably not.

OMG! I think the thread killed this kitten!

Haha! You just post the picture of a cat that look like exactly like my cat, but just more older!

I am very happy to own my cat that still have the claws. The claws are very important for her, if she have no claws, she will never know what she want and never know what she want from the life. Hunting the mouse, attack people with her claws, strenching her body with the claws, all of those are her favorite. I have been noticing most cat with claws are far more smarter than the declawed cats because cats with claws always know what to do and know their own nature, wasn't I right?

VanG · 11-04-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Haha! You just post the picture of a cat that look like exactly like my cat, but just more older!

I am very happy to own my cat that still have the claws. The claws are very important for her, if she have no claws, she will never know what she want and never know what she want from the life. Hunting the mouse, attack people with her claws, strenching her body with the claws, all of those are her favorite. I have been noticing most cat with claws are far more smarter than the declawed cats because cats with claws always know what to do and know their own nature, wasn't I right?

You are right base on cat's nature-but for declaw cat IMO- and what I had been observed is that all cat have different personality and their character are different. One time, I never forget the cat with declaw came in with heavy heartworm. We were puzzled because the cat is indoor cat. We learned that the owner lived in country and the cat ate a lot of mouse that carried a lot of parasite in it. So we gave pretty a lot of shot that kill heartworm. Today, I know that cat is still alive and hunting around in the house to pick mice. Yike!

PuyoPiyo · 11-04-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VanG

You are right base on cat's nature-but for declaw cat IMO- and what I had been observed is that all cat have different personality and their character are different. One time, I never forget the cat with declaw came in with heavy heartworm. We were puzzled because the cat is indoor cat. We learned that the owner lived in country and the cat ate a lot of mouse that carried a lot of parasite in it. So we gave pretty a lot of shot that kill heartworm. Today, I know that cat is still alive and hunting around in the house to pick mice. Yike!

Yupp the heartworms cause the problems.. My parents gave the shots to my cat long time ago, and my cat is doing fine, living alone with me now

Defee · 11-04-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

No, Reba started it, not me.

Look at her post...

Her post make no sense because EVERYONE knows that none of claws can protect animals from being run over by a car, that´s why I copied her post to question back to her over human fingertips because her post make no sense..

The links, we provided support our POV is not a confusing. Who misinterpret the posts is then confusing which is not right.

Oh, bop my head! sorry, hun! my bad, i thought it was you
started it...sorry.
Ok, i understand, yeah, you are right, claws wont protect cats from
being run over by cars, but will protect them from other animals. They
can run up the trees to get away from mean dogs, lol!
Again, my apologies....

VanG · 11-04-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Yupp the heartworms cause the problems.. My parents gave the shots to my cat long time ago, and my cat is doing fine, living alone with me now

WOW! that cat must have 9 life!!! I am glad you take good care of cat.

PuyoPiyo · 11-04-2007, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VanG

WOW! that cat must have 9 life!!! I am glad you take good care of cat.

Actually it's 12 years

I am happy that you are taking care of your cat very well too

Cats deserve to be living in peacefully world.

Audiofuzzy · 11-04-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VanG

We all know what your opinion is about but you really don't need to use those harsh word to insult us all like that. This is uncall! You know what. What going around will go back to you. So be that what you want to be by using harsh language against us. Gee

Who am I insulting? I just stated my opinion on the subject.
If you feel secure in your knowldge that declawing cats is OK then you shouldn't feel insulted by my opinion.

Obviously, deep down you know the truth and that's why you are upset.

Fuzzy

Audiofuzzy · 11-04-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaitin

Yes: "nothing wrong to agree to disagree in polite way" and "positive posts with information which is good education for everyone". Maybe in the whole history fighting on the internet changed ONE person's mind. No, probably not.

OMG! I think the thread killed this kitten!

Is it the cutest kitty ever, or what !!! pls give it gentle belly rub from me

Fuzzy

VanG · 11-04-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Who am I insulting? I just stated my opinion on the subject.
If you feel secure in your knowldge that declawing cats is OK then you shouldn't feel insulted by my opinion.

Obviously, deep down you know the truth and that's why you are upset.

Fuzzy

Sheesh, you insulting us as animal owner and I copied from #110 and paste what you said
If you feed your pet, take care if your pet, and then kick it - is it not an abuse because after all you feed it and care for it?

Fuzzy

This is uncall and insulting. I know the truth that you are breeding insulting and bashing on us for no reason. You think you are right at all the time. Give us a credit and break!

Reba · 11-04-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VanG

... One time, I never forget the cat with declaw came in with heavy heartworm. We were puzzled because the cat is indoor cat. We learned that the owner lived in country and the cat ate a lot of mouse that carried a lot of parasite in it. So we gave pretty a lot of shot that kill heartworm. Today, I know that cat is still alive and hunting around in the house to pick mice. Yike!

Ah, so a declawed cat can still hunt and feed itself. Interesting.

VanG · 11-04-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Ah, so a declawed cat can still hunt and feed itself. Interesting.

Yep, in the house, cat has teeth to grab and gobble on it. That is why we were surprise to see heartworm in cat with declaw.

Liebling:-))) · 11-04-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Defee

Oh, bop my head! sorry, hun! my bad, i thought it was you
started it...sorry.
Ok, i understand, yeah, you are right, claws wont protect cats from
being run over by cars, but will protect them from other animals. They
can run up the trees to get away from mean dogs, lol!
Again, my apologies....

No problem, your apology is accept.

Yes I awared that animal claws defend against other animals or (I like your post over run up to the trees to away from mean dogs...

), need their claws for hunting the foods when they lost in forest or whatever...

Yes I quoted Cheri explain about Kim, my cat who was being nearly killed by big dog and thanks to her front claws who save her life. I wasn´t realized that my post over my cat was being misinterpreted, that´s how confusing begin....

Audiofuzzy · 11-04-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Then we agree that claws won't always save a cat's life.

SO? and teeth doesn't save a dog"s life always, and legs doesn't always save a deer's life (for instance from being hit by car) and so on..

but claws DOES save cat's life in many other instances, and I am sure a cat who have claws can run better than a cat who don't have them - for this simple reason that claws help push better from the surface. I had two cats and I could see them using claw while running away.

And claws are not only for saving life.

It's not "forbidden"; it just isn't logical.

On the contrary, it is logical- like human's fingers, cats have many uses for their claws, not only to "save life".

Do we compare neutering animals without their permission with sterilizing humans without their permission? Do we compare selling animals with selling humans?

Fallicious comparison. In wild nature controls animal population, domesticated animals like cats and dogs are reproducing uncontrollably and hence the need for responsible ownership which include castration.
Humans are responsible for themselves - they control their reproduction, and they pay for their existence.

Fuzzy

Audiofuzzy · 11-04-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Ah, so a declawed cat can still hunt and feed itself. Interesting.

Oh come on! and armlless human can write and wipe his own butt - interesting.

Fuzzy

Reba · 11-04-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

It´s same with human and animal as well...The fingertips and claws WON´T always save human´s and animal´s life.

Then why all the fuss?

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Yes it´s pretty logical to compare because human and animal have bones.

So animals and humans have bones--what does that have to do with comparing amputations? Cats don't have fingers, and humans don't have paws. Cats don't write books, and humans don't wag tails. There is no logical comparison of animals and people.

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Your post make no sense to me...

Of course not.

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For your information, I don´t sell human and animal to anyone for money but give human up for an adoption for reasons and give animal to new home for reasons is my belief.

The vet don´t have any sex protection for animals. Should I allow animals to breed more babies and then let babies to kill by someone else?

Please use your common sense.

Totally missed the point.

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