dog shy around people

FreedummyRing · 06-10-2006, 12:49 PM

if a dog growl at a dog trainer and has its tail down...
but not aggressive and won't bite.

the dog trainer said it is scare and nervous.

but this dog like to jump on people, when greeting.

I really don't understand dogs at all.

Cane Corso · 06-10-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FreedummyRing

if a dog growl at a dog trainer and has its tail down...
but not aggressive and won't bite.

the dog trainer said it is scare and nervous.

but this dog like to jump on people, when greeting.

I really don't understand dogs at all.

No, this behavior is called fear aggression. Is that dog yours? It should not jump on people at all. I would start with NILF and focus on socalizing him with people more. I would start with "NO petting" from other strangers or kids. I would walk the dog daily on the leash beside me (not front of me).

Signs for dogs to feel nervous and insceure
1) non stop head moving (keeping look on the right and left all the time)
2) put the tail under and walk like a coward
3) Barking
4) If it gets more scared, it will growl or snarl
5) Stare very cold at the person or anyone who tries to pet on the top of his head. (Warning to anyone who notices this behavior, do not pet the DOG's head) I guarantee you that your hand will get bitten by that dog.

FreedummyRing · 06-10-2006, 01:49 PM

No this is not my dog, it is one of my family members' dog.

We took this dog to the park a few days ago, and it was his first time.
The dog trainer said we should practice loose leash.
He kept trying to attack ducks and squirrels. Bawking and Growling.
The children made him nervous. He is a terrier, we thought maybe
that is natural.

Cane Corso · 06-10-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FreedummyRing

No this is not my dog, it is one of my family members' dog.

We took this dog to the park a few days ago, and it was his first time.
The dog trainer said we should practice loose leash.
He kept trying to attack ducks and squirrels. Bawking and Growling.
The children made him nervous. He is a terrier, we thought maybe
that is natural.

No that behavior is not normal and it is not because he is a terrier. I would walk the dog for many hours until it makes him tired. What kind of collar do you use when he is out of walk? Do you know if they use flat, choke, dominant, or prong? One of your family members who walk him needs to correct his behavior on the walk.

If not sure how to correct him, I can make a small videotape and show you how to correct his behavior.

Levonian · 06-10-2006, 03:46 PM

From what I understand, jumping on people is a display of aggression, not friendliness. And most canine aggression is a result of fear. So the two behaviors (the aggression towards the trainer and the jumping) are consistent with each other, even though they appear to be contradictory.

FreedummyRing · 06-10-2006, 04:11 PM

well we want him to be a good watch dog

Is it possible to have a good civilized watch dog?

Cane Corso · 06-10-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FreedummyRing

well we want him to be a good watch dog

Is it possible to have a good civilized watch dog?

Dogs with fear aggressions will never going to be a good watch dog. They will not protect anyone but themselves only. They response to aggressive because they are SCARED of something and people. Do you think it is fun for a kid to get bitten by a dog because he is scared of the kid?

One of my dogs has been trained in personal protection, obedience, and tracking. He is very good with all people, kids, and dogs; however, he only gets aggressive when someone is acting in a threating manner. He was trained for that and he knows when he needs to protect his family members.

Actually you can pet my dog, he will not bite you. He does not have any nervousness in him. He is a confident dog. It does make a big difference between my dog, Cody to your family's terrier.

Your terrier is scared and he is NOT confident. He will not protect you or your family.

Cane Corso · 06-10-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Levonian

From what I understand, jumping on people is a display of aggression, not friendliness. And most canine aggression is a result of fear. So the two behaviors (the aggression towards the trainer and the jumping) are consistent with each other, even though they appear to be contradictory.

You are correct, glad to know that you know something about dog aggressions. I wish there are more people like you are quite knowledge about it.

Roadrunner · 06-10-2006, 07:32 PM

Also, when a dog has their tail between their back legs--it can be a sign that a trainer or handler is too aggressive or even abusing the dog to a point whereas the dog knows no other feelings but to be afraid/timid.

Lil_country_gal · 06-10-2006, 08:23 PM

Wait so if a dog is hopping around and playing and jumps on you that's agression?

FreedummyRing · 06-10-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Also, when a dog has their tail between their back legs--it can be a sign that a trainer or handler is too aggressive or even abusing the dog to a point whereas the dog knows no other feelings but to be afraid/timid.

I think because that dog get too many hand spanky.

pek1 · 06-11-2006, 12:00 AM

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Levonian · 06-11-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil_country_gal

Wait so if a dog is hopping around and playing and jumps on you that's agression?

Yes. I don’t really know very much about the subject—I took a class in behavior modification at the local PetSmart, and I’ve watched Cesar Millan’s show a few times. My wife has his book; maybe I can get some more information from it. But the way I understand it is this: your dog thinks you’re another dog, and thinks everybody else are also other dogs. Wild dogs travel in large packs with a strict hierarchy. One dog is the boss, and all the other dogs follow his lead. When your dog jumps on you or somebody else, he’s challenging you for the leader position.

Lil_country_gal · 06-11-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Levonian

Yes. I don’t really know very much about the subject—I took a class in behavior modification at the local PetSmart, and I’ve watched Cesar Millan’s show a few times. My wife has his book; maybe I can get some more information from it. But the way I understand it is this: your dog thinks you’re another dog, and thinks everybody else are also other dogs. Wild dogs travel in large packs with a strict hierarchy. One dog is the boss, and all the other dogs follow his lead. When your dog jumps on you or somebody else, he’s challenging you for the leader position.

hmmm we just figured when our dogs jumped it's becasue she likes getting picked up so if u ask she will jump sometimes she just jumps up when she's not feeling well to get held never thought that could be agression

Cane Corso · 06-11-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil_country_gal

Wait so if a dog is hopping around and playing and jumps on you that's agression?

Actually Dominant aggression, but yes.

Cane Corso · 06-11-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Levonian

Yes. I don’t really know very much about the subject—I took a class in behavior modification at the local PetSmart, and I’ve watched Cesar Millan’s show a few times. My wife has his book; maybe I can get some more information from it. But the way I understand it is this: your dog thinks you’re another dog, and thinks everybody else are also other dogs. Wild dogs travel in large packs with a strict hierarchy. One dog is the boss, and all the other dogs follow his lead. When your dog jumps on you or somebody else, he’s challenging you for the leader position.

Yes that is correct.

Cane Corso · 06-11-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil_country_gal

hmmm we just figured when our dogs jumped it's becasue she likes getting picked up so if u ask she will jump sometimes she just jumps up when she's not feeling well to get held never thought that could be agression

No, this is a good example of human errors to think that your dog wants to be pick up. What she is doing to you, she is trying to dominate you. She knows she will get what she wants and you will obey her. Obvious you are below in the pack rank than she is and she runs the house. If you watch a group of puppies doing that to the mother dog, she will puts her mouth on the puppy's neck and shake to stop the challenagable behavior.

Signs that your dog is dominant

1) Refuse to obey any commands, even call his name when you want him to
come.
2) Refuse to move out of your way when needed
3)Nudges your hand, mouths your arm, or insists on being petted or played, this means he Orders you to obey
4)Defend food, toys, persons, or other objects from you
5) Growls or bares teeth under any circumstances
6) Snaps at you
7) Jump at people to get attention
8) Beg at the dinner table

GalaxyAngel · 06-11-2006, 07:42 PM

Here's link
http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/ou...or_tip_sheets/

Hopefully helps you understand..

Opal · 06-11-2006, 08:58 PM

Is tail docking still exist in America and Canada??

It is banned in some states of Australia.

Levonian · 06-11-2006, 09:04 PM

Tragically, yes. People who dock dog’s tails should be shot on sight.

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FreedummyRing Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 378	No this is not my dog, it is one of my family members' dog. We took this dog to the park a few days ago, and it was his first time. The dog trainer said we should practice loose leash. He kept trying to attack ducks and squirrels. Bawking and Growling. The children made him nervous. He is a terrier, we thought maybe that is natural.

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Levonian Rattus Norvegicus Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Research facility. Posts: 3,798	From what I understand, jumping on people is a display of aggression, not friendliness. And most canine aggression is a result of fear. So the two behaviors (the aggression towards the trainer and the jumping) are consistent with each other, even though they appear to be contradictory.

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FreedummyRing Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 378	well we want him to be a good watch dog Is it possible to have a good civilized watch dog?

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Roadrunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,090	Also, when a dog has their tail between their back legs--it can be a sign that a trainer or handler is too aggressive or even abusing the dog to a point whereas the dog knows no other feelings but to be afraid/timid.

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Levonian Rattus Norvegicus Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Research facility. Posts: 3,798	Tragically, yes. People who dock dog’s tails should be shot on sight.

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