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Unread 06-10-2012, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New Jersey Passed Seatbelt Law for Pets!

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you have to pay $1000 fine and stay in jail 6 months ! how do people feel about this? I am not sure if I like being told how to take care of my dog. Marty ride in the back set and stay there the whole time.
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I think NJ is competing with CA for the Nanny state award!
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Interesting. how do you restrain a cat? Cats throw a fit during the ride. I had to have my cat with me in a passenger position to calm her down. She threw a fit in her kennel, and tried to chew on the metal door. She was literally hyperventilating. She was drooling all over. Are there any exceptions under the law? Is it possible to show a vet's note to a cop that my cat cannot be in a kennel for emotional problems?
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My Sable rides on the front passenger floor, I wonder if working dogs are except?
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I don't drive, but if I did I think I would feel better with my dog in a seat belt safety harness. But I think it should be up to the owner. I love animals very much and I am becoming a veterinarian because I want to use my life to care for them, but this new law sounds to me like a way for the state to make more money. They want to give $1000 tickets to as many people as possible. They don't care about the animals.
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Unread 06-10-2012, 07:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That is all fines do is give the state income, you are right they do not care about the animals, children, lives saved, oil spilled all they care about is the fine. When they fine a person all that happens (if they can pay it) that person becomes more angry with the system and gee the state people wonder why.
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I don't drive, but if I did I think I would feel better with my dog in a seat belt safety harness. But I think it should be up to the owner. I love animals very much and I am becoming a veterinarian because I want to use my life to care for them, but this new law sounds to me like a way for the state to make more money. They want to give $1000 tickets to as many people as possible. They don't care about the animals.
It is not just a matter of if they care about animals. Anything, living or an object, that is not restrained becomes a danger to anyone in the vehicle in the event of a crash. That person, animal, or object that is unrestrained keeps moving when the vehicle stops suddenly because of the crash and can hit the people and injure them.
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My Sable rides on the front passenger floor, I wonder if working dogs are except?
I was thinking that too about working dogs. I know my hearing dog would had hate to had wore a seat belt. Finlay likes to watch where I was going . I swear if he could had talk Finlay would let me known if I was going the wrong way! He would sit with his head resting on back of my seat and when he saw I was going the right way he would go lay down. He was a back seat driver!
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I don't drive, but if I did I think I would feel better with my dog in a seat belt safety harness. But I think it should be up to the owner. I love animals very much and I am becoming a veterinarian because I want to use my life to care for them, but this new law sounds to me like a way for the state to make more money. They want to give $1000 tickets to as many people as possible. They don't care about the animals.
Yeah this really a like paying tax on our pets, it as fast way for the state to made money. Next we'll have to put seat belts on our coffee cups so they will not tip over and spill hot coffee on us.
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It is not just a matter of if they care about animals. Anything, living or an object, that is not restrained becomes a danger to anyone in the vehicle in the event of a crash. That person, animal, or object that is unrestrained keeps moving when the vehicle stops suddenly because of the crash and can hit the people and injure them.
That is true but making a person pay a $1000 is a crime itself!
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Interesting. how do you restrain a cat? Cats throw a fit during the ride. I had to have my cat with me in a passenger position to calm her down. She threw a fit in her kennel, and tried to chew on the metal door. She was literally hyperventilating. She was drooling all over. Are there any exceptions under the law? Is it possible to show a vet's note to a cop that my cat cannot be in a kennel for emotional problems?
Our cat threw a hissy fit when I was taking him to the Vet...perhaps you can get a mild tranquiller from the Vet for ur Cat?....before his/her riding in the car, and crate the cat.

As for a seat belt on my 10 lb doggie...don't think that would work. So those living in NJ just might have to crate their cat/dog while riding in the car....MY doggie loves to ride in the car, even begs to go with me everywhere....hope that Law will not take effect in Florida.
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Our cat threw a hissy fit when I was taking him to the Vet...perhaps you can get a mild tranquiller from the Vet for ur Cat?....before his/her riding in the car, and crate the cat.

As for a seat belt on my 10 lb doggie...don't think that would work. So those living in NJ just might have to crate their cat/dog while riding in the car....MY doggie loves to ride in the car, even begs to go with me everywhere....hope that Law will not take effect in Florida.
You can buy a harness that hooked on the seat belt buckle . The dog can still move around . I still it would be real painful to have a dog sit up like a person on a long drive.


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I do not likes the looks of this seat belt for dogs. if you had to stop fast the dog could get hurt real bad.
You will have to really be careful putting a seat belt on your pets , you could end doing more harm than good.
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Hey honey - where is my rubber bungee cord? I gotta strap the dog down!!
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Hey honey - where is my rubber bungee cord? I gotta strap the dog down!!
Just tie the doggie to the bumper, honey....don't wanna a $1,000 ticket...
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I don't like the idea of putting tranquilizer in my cat. I don't want to damage her immune system further. She has allergic issues. My cat doesn't need tranquilizer. I always find the way to ask a driver who can drive me to a vet's office while my cat feels comfortable with me sitting on my lap during the ride.


I have a feeling that the lawmakers have been looking for an excuse to create the bad law, so they can rip off taxpayers.
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Our cat threw a hissy fit when I was taking him to the Vet...perhaps you can get a mild tranquiller from the Vet for ur Cat?....before his/her riding in the car, and crate the cat.

As for a seat belt on my 10 lb doggie...don't think that would work. So those living in NJ just might have to crate their cat/dog while riding in the car....MY doggie loves to ride in the car, even begs to go with me everywhere....hope that Law will not take effect in Florida.
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I found his seat belt for cats , I think is it bad idea putting a cat in a seat belt.
You'll have to bring a cat carrier too and get the cat in it while in the car and made sure no one open a door until the cat is in the carrier.
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Just tie the doggie to the bumper, honey....don't wanna a $1,000 ticket...
Or you can do what Mitt Romney did , tie the dog crate to the top of the car.
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I wouldn't worry too much about this. We have seatbelt and cellphone laws. How often do they get fined? and I can easily foresee that sooner or later, this law will be revised or repealed.
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It is not just a matter of if they care about animals. Anything, living or an object, that is not restrained becomes a danger to anyone in the vehicle in the event of a crash. That person, animal, or object that is unrestrained keeps moving when the vehicle stops suddenly because of the crash and can hit the people and injure them.
I thought this over very carefully since I do have a special love of animals, and I wondered: I never heard of an accident where an unrestrained animal became a flying object that interfered with a drive. I live in a big city with news about almost everything that happens, yet I never heard of this. I tried to find statistics, but couldn't. Is this really a problem?
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Next we'll have to put seat belts on our coffee cups so they will not tip over and spill hot coffee on us.
In England the driver can not be holding a cup and drinking while driving, I mean drinking a coke or coffee not alcohol. You can get a ticket if they catch you taking a sip. And you can't smoke a cigarette while driving.

Next they'll be fined for talking to their passenger because it takes their mind off the road.
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I thought this over very carefully since I do have a special love of animals, and I wondered: I never heard of an accident where an unrestrained animal became a flying object that interfered with a drive. I live in a big city with news about almost everything that happens, yet I never heard of this. I tried to find statistics, but couldn't. Is this really a problem?
well there's no statistics but it is true that anything not restrained or secured is a flying object in case of accident - a person, purse, dog, coins, anything.

accident statistic gathered by DOT is this - http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx
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I think NJ is competing with CA for the Nanny state award!
I think it will be NY vs. NJ.
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well, that's interesting.
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well, that's interesting.
what's more interesting is you coming back here. long time no hear!
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what's more interesting is you coming back here. long time no hear!
haha, hello there! yeah, i come by once in a blue moon these days..
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I was thinking that too about working dogs. I know my hearing dog would had hate to had wore a seat belt. Finlay likes to watch where I was going . I swear if he could had talk Finlay would let me known if I was going the wrong way! He would sit with his head resting on back of my seat and when he saw I was going the right way he would go lay down. He was a back seat driver!
Talk! That goes back to another thread where they were writing about teaching animals how to sign. With all the laws in place maybe you can get Finlay certified as a guide dog when you driving also. ‘The Finlay K9GPS unit by ronco. Will he fit on the dash?
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I wouldn't worry too much about this. We have seatbelt and cellphone laws. How often do they get fined? and I can easily foresee that sooner or later, this law will be revised or repealed.
Around Cheyenne Wy, fines for cell phones and seat belts are a big source of income. This is a state that just past a law 2 years ago that you could not have open beer in a car.
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My Lab did try to jump out of the car while it was moving, once. He was sitting in the back seat. I was in the front passenger seat, with my window down. He jumped over my shoulder, out the window. I grabbed his leash and pulled him back in. Let me tell you, a male Lab is not a light weight!

My cats didn't like to ride in the car. One time, one was loose in the car and got under my accelerator pedal! A very dangerous situation. From then on, no matter how much they fussed, they had to be in a kitty crate in the car.

When we had to be in a hurricane evacuation, we were in the car for almost 48 hours. I discovered that the cat stayed calm and in place if he rode in his covered litter box. Not ideal but if it made him happy under a temporary stressful situation, then it was OK.

Years ago, when we had a Pekinese dog, she rode on the front passenger seat of the car with Hubby driving, going to the vet. At a stop light, Hubby was rear ended by a careless driver. Little Ping went sliding off the seat and down into the area under the dashboard. I think the reason that she didn't hit the dash or windshield is because Hubby's car at that time was a Dodge Dart with a raised rear end. That means, the car sloped down and forward.

So, yes, dogs will go flying in an impact, even a minor one.

I have read news articles about traffic accidents where the dogs disappear from the scene. They get thrown out, and in fear, they just start running away. Sometimes they survive the accident but get hit by cars going by.
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Around Cheyenne Wy, fines for cell phones and seat belts are a big source of income. This is a state that just past a law 2 years ago that you could not have open beer in a car.
As to the bolded in quote. This has been the case in Illinois since at least the 1950's. Not just beer but any open alcohol in the passenger compartment (not trunk).
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and yet it is only a $25 dollar fine (for first offense) for not having a child safely buckled up correctly. NJ has shit priorities...
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