The Highlander

We watched thru directv and Switched at Birth Ep .2's CC do not show up at all. WTF. Stupid ABC networking.

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Chevy57

LOL iSwifter instead of Swifter. I m stupid myself.

StSapphire

Out of curiosity, is it the stuff that the show presumably wants you to be pissed off about? (Such as "rich parents wanting to 'save' the poor family from themselves" or "hearing people being stupid about d/Deaf"?) Or flaws with the show itself, like bad ASL or unrealistic reactions of the characters?

yizuman

Both.

Yiz

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StSapphire

Ah. In that case, I'm pretty sure that's kinda the point of the show, lol. You're identifying with the less... abrasive... characters, which is obviously the goal of the show. Identify with the "underdog" characters (it's more than just a bit patronizing, but that's Disney for you) and show how they "overcame adversity" and showed their "inner strength" and blah blah blah

Bottesini

I was wondering for days now if deafgirl12 is a plant of the show here to make us identify and cheerlead for the show..

Which is why I stopped participating in this thread.

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StSapphire

Hah, wouldn't be the first time. Though, it's a bit of a compliment to the site that they found us worthwhile of even trying something like that.

ksbsnowowl

So the fact that the show is displaying a common and pervasive learning curve for hearing people when first exposed to deaf culture for the first time, is a bad thing? Yizuman is angry that the show is realistic?

I know this idea is completely out of left field, but might it just be possible that they are showing the hearing family as completely clueless, so they can, over time in a natural progression, show them growing and learning? (And along with the family, the clueless hearing viewer also learns about deaf culture, and vicariously works through the "culture clash," so when they actually encounter deaf individuals, they have a realistic frame of reference that actually sticks in their mind?)

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GrendelQ

Good point, and she supports the Canucks too, another reason to shun her .

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Bottesini

Is that just generic Canadians, or a team? I am really lost here, but still laughing hysterically.

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StSapphire

Nope, I was pointing out that the offensive behaviors were actually in character for them, rather than being offensive due to ignorance on the part of the show writers. I'm almost certain that what you said is the entire point of it.

ksbsnowowl

Sorry, I didn't specify who I was responding to well. I was actually responding to Yiruzman's response to your posting, but merely quoted your comment, as it was the "topic" at hand. I agree, the offensive behaviors are completely in character and realistic. I'm amazed some people are taking umbrage with realistic portrayals of initial "immersion" into deaf culture.

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yizuman

It's just it's reminding me the BS that I had to go through and see that compare to my generation of dealing with BS is still prevalent to today's generation. Some things never change.

Especially when the Mom declined to go along with the rich couple to sue (you know what) because the Mom felt that money doesn't solve everything and the arrogance from the rich couple flipping out that the Mom actually turned down money thinking EVERYBODY WANTS MONEY and they think the Mom is strange for not wanting it.

Thing is, not everyone wants to be rich, it would be arrogant to assume that everyone wants money. Some may have a sour taste for people for having too much money.

I also have a couple of theories as to other possible reasons why the Mom turned them down.

Yiz

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StSapphire

As long as you realize that this is actually realistic (well, close enough) and not actually bad TV, and that the reaction you're having is the one they want you to have, lol.

I'd be curious to hear opinions on the mom's statement to the Deaf daughter, when she said that not only was it up to the daughter to educate the hearing family, but that she "had" to do so. I understand the sentiment, but I think it would have played better if the mother had instead said that in rebuttal to the hearing parents, telling them that if they want to get to know the Deaf daughter and their family, that they have to be the ones to learn and educate themselves.

As for the Deaf mother turning down the money, my guess is that it's simple pride - she views the money basically as a handout from the rich parents and doesn't want to take "their" money, likely because she already feels as though she's "sold out" by taking their free housing and the like.

GrendelQ

That would would be a reference to just the team that took a terrible crushing upon the ice last night.

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sallylou

WTF? The episode at the ABC family is not captioned? Am I missing something here?

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JoeyDeafNinja

Actually it is captioned at Hulu.com

GrendelQ

It is captioned -- both on ABC Family and on Hulu. The Hulu CC was missing some dialogue, which they said they would fix immediately and re-upload, and I think they did.

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swimmergirl

i am a hard of hearing competitive swimmer...could you maybe put in how IT IS NOT HARD FOR PEOPLE TO REPEAT SOMETHING. it totally gets on my nerves. and the stereotypes should be cleared up too. (14 yrs btw).

yizuman

Attachment is pic for next week's episode.....

Guess who??????

Yiz

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The Highlander

Well, duh!

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JClarke

Saw the second epsiode last night - it was ok, but keen to watch the next one.

Yiz, uhhhh, Helen Keller?

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BecLak

Hulu doesn't work outside of USA either. Shame really. Disappointed. Can't get good movies with Sign Language or Deaf actors except on YouTube. YouTube's CCs often don't work correctly or there are none at all.

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ABCFamily

You all have excellent feedback! I love how much discussion is surfacing from this show! I personally think it’s very realistic and can’t wait to see what is going to unfold in next week’s episode. Marlee Matlin will be making an appearance, as you all know, and we also find out who Bay’s real birth father is! I find myself getting emotionally involved with each character because it’s so real! Anybody else feel the same? To hold you over for next week, here are some sneak peeks and make sure to follow the Twitter handle and Facebook page to keep up to date on all the latest breaking news!

DeafGirl12

Are you guys talking about me on here?? just curious, cause the one was mentioned on my name on there..

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Bottesini

Me. I just wondered if you were a real person, or someone who works for ABC. Because you joined as the show started and it is almost all you talk about.

Maybe you are just really interested in the show. I like dogs a lot. But I talk about other things too.

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DeafGirl12

lol! No, I'm just like you guys were as we likes the tv shows mostly, I'm a huge tv addicts. Just one person who joined is ABCFamily there.

I likes the dogs too! and so is the other things too!

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BecLak

I viewed the first 2 episodes on YouTube last night. Some of the captions were backwards?!! I am pretty good at reading upside-down and backwards, however, serious work needs to be done on it. Also, the whole show should be captioned throughout.

It was interesting as TV dramas go and I will continue to view it, however, I noticed that it is geared to educate the hearing about deafness, but to tell you the truth, it is still very primarily 'hearing'. It is a good 'meet halfway' effort though. IMO, It would be good to have a broadcasting network that broadcasts a tv series purely from the Deaf perspective.

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TWA

I just watched it. The captions on Hulu were a little buggy for the first minute but fine after that.

I liked this episode even more than the first. Lots of good tension. Writing is getting a little better and so is the acting, but still a little bit of overdetermined and unnecessary stuff. That's expected in the early episodes of any TV show. For example, if you watch some of the first Seinfeld episodes, you'll cringe...

My favorite character is Bay. Besides being the best actress on the show, she is also the most complex. Much of the storyline revolves around Daphne's deafness, but it's really Bay's complexity that will drive this show. Definitely looking forward to her character development, and I'm looking forward to seeing more interaction/tension between the two girls in general.

Right now, the only thing that makes Daphne an interesting character is her deafness, and that is going to quickly wear off with the audience, so I hope the writers are able to do something to give her more texture and nuance soon. But she sure is cute. Damn!

I want to smack the rich parents. Grrrr!

Good job, ABC. My offer still stands: I'll write for you! I work for cheap, too! lol.

TWA

Okay, first off, consider the audience for this show: 99% HEARING. It MUST accommodate that audience, whether we want it to or not. Why on earth would ABC produce a show from a deaf point of view that would exclude virtually it's entire audience? Nobody would watch it. It would be canned right away and we wouldn't get anywhere.

Second, what do you mean it is "still very primarily 'hearing'"? I think this show has been very good about preserving the Deaf perspective and at the same time crossing over and bridging the gap between hearing and deaf. How can you say it's primarily hearing when it's bringing up all the issues we deaf people face when dealing with the hearing, and it is sympathetic to the DEAF view--not the hearing?

Do you have any idea how many hearing people are learning how to interact with a deaf person and are being exposed to positive ideas about deafness from watching this show? I saw at least 4 stereotypes about deaf people broken down in tonight's episode. It is really the first of its kind.

You want a "purely Deaf perspective"? Go to Deaftv.com (where you will, ironically, find Switched at Birth on the front page)