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DeafCaroline

Two consenting adults agreeing to have sex is not immoral and certainly does not make the woman a "ho".

CSign

lol

posts from hell

That's pretty cheap, gimme the number.

Reba

To be honest, it is if they aren't married to each other.

I certainly wouldn't call someone a whore for doing that, though.

warpedpink

Not in this day and age.

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saywhatkid

Depends on where you plan to go after your time on earth...

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Tousi

The world is bigger than you think it is.....

souggy

Wirelessly posted

Yeah. The universe is so big, we are all insignificiant specks.

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Reba

Morality doesn't depend on "day and age."

An action can become accepted in certain societies over a period of time but that doesn't make it a moral action.

From Dictionary.com:

mo·ral·i·ty   [muh-ral-i-tee, maw-] Show IPA
noun, plural -ties for 4–6.
1. conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct.
2. moral quality or character.
3. virtue in sexual matters; chastity.
4. a doctrine or system of morals.
5. moral instruction; a moral lesson, precept, discourse, or utterance.

mor·al   [mawr-uhl, mor-] Show IPA
adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.
2. expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct, as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel.
3. founded on the fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on legalities, enactment, or custom: moral obligations.
4. capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being.
5. conforming to the rules of right conduct ( opposed to immoral): a moral man.

im·mo·ral·i·ty   [im-uh-ral-i-tee, im-aw-] Show IPA
noun, plural -ties.
1. immoral quality, character, or conduct; wickedness; evilness.
2. sexual misconduct.
3. an immoral act.

im·mor·al   [ih-mawr-uhl, ih-mor-] Show IPA
adjective
1. violating moral principles; not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics.
2. licentious or lascivious.

Reba

Specks? Materially, yes.

Insignificant? As individuals, no.

warpedpink

Lordy... I'm talking about America. In our society, generally speaking, it is more and more accepted for women to have premarital sex and the fact that women have sexual needs too is becoming scientifically acknowledged more and more every day.

I will just repost my original argument, which I believe says everything that needs to be said:

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saywhatkid

Well said. What someone else may feel is morally correct does not deter my own version of morality.

I recall early TV shows (Father Knows Best) with married couples having twin beds. That might have been a bit extreme of a moral example, but it certainly was not realistic. However, not every person appreciates the more amorous TV couples of today, either.

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souggy

Wirelessly posted

Don't distort.

Just like how most humans are blissfully unaware of the ants they are stepping on, the Milky Way is also unconcious of our existence as well.

Whether or not if individuals are unique or special has no bearing and is merely a self-centric view.

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saywhatkid

That is fine for YOU. Don't tell me I need to respond to my genitals when they are asking for attention.

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Reba

I am, too, since it's part of the world.

That may be true but that doesn't make it moral.

I'm not denying that, and no one had to wait for science to catch up with that fact. However, that doesn't make every "consensual adult" sexual behavior a moral behavior.

Certainly no one here should be called names or picked on by other members. We all have our closeted skeletons and baggage to bear, whatever the kind.

souggy

The original poster is not even promiscuous. Anyone can grab a random person at a bar. She didn't. She talked to this person for MONTHS before trusting him.

Many women don't just sleep with random strangers anyway.

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Reba

The Milky Way isn't a conscious being, so it's not even conscious of itself. You can't compare humans with objects.

It would be self-centric if it was only about self but considering other people to be important is not focusing on self.

saywhatkid

And that is fine for HER. Trying to change the meaning as I interpret a word is my only issue here.

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souggy

That is the biggest load of self-contradiction from you on this forum so far.

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Reba

I guess this is the end of civil discussion.

Sunshine

So only Christian values determine what moral ethical right?

DeafCaroline

Moral: rightness or wrongness, badness or goodness. How does the act of sex suddenly become moral when one signs a piece of paper bounding themselves by contract to another person?

I must be very very very very very very very immoral - using that logic.

DeafCaroline

According to your Bible and "God", it's immoral.

Mintee

wow i don't know what to say.. but if you're looking for a serious, committed relationship- don't have sex with person until you get to know their true colors. if i were you i would be wary of meeting guys online.. it's very easy to pretend to be something you're not on the internet

i hope you didn't contact him again.. forget about this guy! he obviously never took you serious..he was only after one thing.

ps. i hope you didn't give him money

warpedpink

Not ME, specifically but women in general. If you didn't throw any insults, then nothing I said was intended for you. I am just defending the OP from malicious insults.

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warpedpink

Which is basically what I said in a nutshell.

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TWA

God, enough with the religious presumptions. Got news for you folks: you don't know shit about what really happens when we die. You can believe all you want, but the damn hard truth is that we only know for sure what really happens when it is our time to go.

Focus on yourself. Quit acting like you know something.

Mintee

to the OP: what country is this guy from?

saywhatkid

I think the only comment I directed at the OP was to get a checkup "down there." The rest was replies to the other posters.

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