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Old 05-25-2008, 05:05 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I m glad that you are alright. I suggest that you need to decide what you want for yourself then deal with bf then a guy, a friend. That s sweet of your friend who has been trying to help you but if he is getting annoying and don't slow down when you ask him to. Make him understand that you appreciate his support but you need your time for youself sometimes.

The ER situtation, you were so hurt and he didnt take you there. That was wrong. Next time if it happens again, ask a friend or neighbor for help.
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Old 05-25-2008, 09:11 PM   #32 (permalink)
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you're right, doctor pepper.. I guess I'll have a talk with him tomorrow. to be honest, I'm a little scared to - I've just broke my rib. he can be um, pushy. especially physical-ways.

I wish I had thought of a neighborby. I jst moved here and live alone with my furkids so I don't really know anyone here.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:51 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:24 AM   #34 (permalink)
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If you went to the ER, what did you say to the dr when he asked you how you hurt your rib? By law, DR needs to ask that.

As far as abuse. I was there and I got out so I have a hard time understanding what keeps you with your bf. My abuse came from my husband. It was every 6 months and it got worse each time. The final time, I thought he was going to kill me. The police got involved because I had my neighbor call 911. For the first time I feared for my life. This was the 3rd time police involved so I had records and got my divorce in 6 mths which is very rare here in michigan where there are kids involved.

Anyway, when that fighting happened in front of my son, that's when I knew in my heart of hearts that this needs to stop.

Now, you may not like what I have to say but I am going to say it and it might take you a couple of visits to this post to fully understand.

You being abused, that IS your fault in that you allow yourself to be in the presence of an asshole who DOES NOT have your best interests in mind. The asshole will NEVER have your best interests in mind. The guy helping you? Well in your previous post you said you had to say no to him. No to what?

You can shut me out but I will say one more thing. I am so not a 'holy roller' or 'bible thumper' nor am I without my own problems/challenges. BUT I found God after the divorce, house fire, and bankruptcy. I am not sure what is going to happen in my future. But if I honor God and do the best I can, I know that he will take care of the rest. I ask myself anytime I am unsure of what to do what God would want for me. God loves me. He will never stop. He will never abuse me. He will not WANT me to be abused. He is my father and he will let me be abused if that is what I want. But that is never what God wants. God will help you if you let him. In this case, I wouldn't even think about the future and what will happen. I would simply leave - - you'd be surprised like I was - - God will handle the rest even if you don't believe in him. Higher power is another way to look at it - - your higher power will take care of the rest, just leave. You are so lucky that you can just leave - - no kids, no marriage. It's so simple. You are setting yourself up for a real hard life if you stay. Seriously, when you are old and you look back on your life - - what are you gonna see? You please an Asshole over YOU???? You only live once and you can not go back and do a replay of your life. You need to leave and you need to let your friend that is helping you know that God comes first. God needs to help you, not that guy.

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Old 06-05-2008, 05:00 PM   #35 (permalink)
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If you went to the ER, what did you say to the dr when he asked you how you hurt your rib? By law, DR needs to ask that.

As far as abuse. I was there and I got out so I have a hard time understanding what keeps you with your bf. My abuse came from my husband. It was every 6 months and it got worse each time. The final time, I thought he was going to kill me. The police got involved because I had my neighbor call 911. For the first time I feared for my life. This was the 3rd time police involved so I had records and got my divorce in 6 mths which is very rare here in michigan where there are kids involved.

Anyway, when that fighting happened in front of my son, that's when I knew in my heart of hearts that this needs to stop.

Now, you may not like what I have to say but I am going to say it and it might take you a couple of visits to this post to fully understand.

You being abused, that IS your fault in that you allow yourself to be in the presence of an asshole who DOES NOT have your best interests in mind. The asshole will NEVER have your best interests in mind. The guy helping you? Well in your previous post you said you had to say no to him. No to what?

Whoa wait a minute. I dislike the way you vent off to a victim of Domestic Violence. It is not her fault because she is unaware of her bf's violent tendencies. How dare you tell her that it is her own fault? She is so confused about her bf and other guy, for god's sakes. Once she is healed and will learn her lesson by not repeating history herself. She will need to be more careful for her own safety sake.

You can shut me out but I will say one more thing. I am so not a 'holy roller' or 'bible thumper' nor am I without my own problems/challenges. BUT I found God after the divorce, house fire, and bankruptcy. I am not sure what is going to happen in my future. But if I honor God and do the best I can, I know that he will take care of the rest. I ask myself anytime I am unsure of what to do what God would want for me. God loves me. He will never stop. He will never abuse me. He will not WANT me to be abused. He is my father and he will let me be abused if that is what I want. But that is never what God wants. God will help you if you let him. In this case, I wouldn't even think about the future and what will happen. I would simply leave - - you'd be surprised like I was - - God will handle the rest even if you don't believe in him. Higher power is another way to look at it - - your higher power will take care of the rest, just leave. You are so lucky that you can just leave - - no kids, no marriage. It's so simple. You are setting yourself up for a real hard life if you stay. Seriously, when you are old and you look back on your life - - what are you gonna see? You please an Asshole over YOU???? You only live once and you can not go back and do a replay of your life. You need to leave and you need to let your friend that is helping you know that God comes first. God needs to help you, not that guy.

It sounds like you are a bible thumper with cussing word. Nice to know. No wonder I can't stand hyprocrities who are pretending to be religious people, but still swear.

Ok, I am done venting. Please don't hate me.
Ok, I dislike the way you use your kind of language toward this victim of Domestic Violence. Hasta la vista!
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:15 PM   #36 (permalink)
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It sounds like you are a bible thumper with cussing word. Nice to know. No wonder I can't stand hyprocrities who are pretending to be religious people, but still swear.
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since when does saying "asshole" disqualify someone from being religious?
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Old 06-06-2008, 08:59 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Well, all's I can say is an Asshole is an Asshole, no 2 ways about it. No way to sugar coat an Asshole. Anyway, I am not much of a religous person as you may think I am. Just because I love God doesn't make me any more religous than an agnostic. I simply have a higher power who I can count on never to beat the shit out of me. People - - humans, are so not like that. They can turn on you at any moment.


Whoa wait a minute. I dislike the way you vent off to a victim of Domestic Violence. It is not her fault because she is unaware of her bf's violent tendencies. How dare you tell her that it is her own fault? She is so confused about her bf and other guy, for god's sakes. Once she is healed and will learn her lesson by not repeating history herself. She will need to be more careful for her own safety sake.

What do you mean she is unaware of her bf's violent tendency's? She had her ribs broken/fractured back in February. It's nobody's fault but their own when they CONTINUE to subject themselves to the presence of their abuser. I kinda understand staying for the sake of marriage or the sake of the kids, but a boyfriend? And she has repeated HISTORY. The lesson she needs to learn is no body deserves to have themselves shoved no matter what.

Anyone is rip me for this post. In fact, I expect it. What matters most to me is to see no one get their ASS beat. It would suck if someone slapped me to the point of breaking my $2500 hearing aid, for example. Would I forgive such a person???? How??? And for your freaking information, I am a victim of domestic violence. I remember when my ASSHOLE exhusband pushed me into a glass door while being 7 months pregnant!!! My Michigan police took care of the matter - - pressed charges, fined him, and put him on probation and even did the Protection Order. I didn't have to do anything but write a victim's statement. If the law says it is wrong, then, my dear, it is WRONG!
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:34 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Whoa wait a minute. I dislike the way you vent off to a victim of Domestic Violence. It is not her fault because she is unaware of her bf's violent tendencies. How dare you tell her that it is her own fault? She is so confused about her bf and other guy, for god's sakes. Once she is healed and will learn her lesson by not repeating history herself. She will need to be more careful for her own safety sake.

What do you mean she is unaware of her bf's violent tendency's? She had her ribs broken/fractured back in February. It's nobody's fault but their own when they CONTINUE to subject themselves to the presence of their abuser. I kinda understand staying for the sake of marriage or the sake of the kids, but a boyfriend? And she has repeated HISTORY. The lesson she needs to learn is no body deserves to have themselves shoved no matter what.
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It does not matter. Anyone beats up anyone else at anywhere. It could be a cousin, teacher, boyfriend, pastor, stranger, homeless person, married man, lesbian, or gay. It could be ANYONE.

Do you still think it is victim's fault to let it happen? I am sorry that I totally disgaree with your statement.

Some of victims have no places to go, remain to be stuck with abusers. I emphasis on the word of SOME. Some other victims of DV are brave enough to leave their abusers, but it is not easy for them. They work hard to make their efforts of leaving their abusers. Some are successful. Unfortunately, some are not that successful (ex. dead, end up in hospital, etc). Look at Chris Lambert and Tallie situation, for example. Was Tallie's fault to cover up for Chris's violent tendencies? No because she was not aware of being a victim of DV until too late. If Freckles is smart enough to repeat history after she went to hospital, then she is going to leave her abusive bf.

Please do not preach Freckles about God. All she needs from us is provide her positive support and guide. She may be new to DV experience. It gives her time to think about it.

FYI, I am a victim of DV as well.
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since when does saying "asshole" disqualify someone from being religious?
LOL. Nah. I still have an asshole!
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:58 PM   #40 (permalink)
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It's not the victim's fault that it happened. But I believe that it is the victim's fault if it happens repeatedly. I am so sorry but that is my belief. To live in fear is to give in and give up. And I keep stressing this - - it's her BOYFRIEND! ugh. As far as preaching, I don't mean to. But I would be an Asshole if I didn't tell her that God'll never beat her.
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:50 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I am gonna have to agree with everybody post here with their advice to you. I think you need to becareful of that male friend of yours. I do agree also what jiro123 said about the "change part" it not easy for a man to change. Maybe best you should try to re-evaluates your friendship with him and becareful. You might never know how dangerous he can be even if he is nice or a friend. Just becareful and play it safe.
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Old 06-09-2008, 01:31 PM   #42 (permalink)
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wow.. okay, I will have to re-read the whole thing again later, I'm feeling very groggy and doggone tired. but that's better being without morphines.

thanks everyone, later for now.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:07 PM   #43 (permalink)
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okay,...I reread. first of all, hello and welcome newidme. (NEW ID ME?) - just don't go ahead of me yet. alright, now, there is some misunderstanding here - the accident last february was vechile smasher (car accident). totalled. fortunately I wasn't.

and this was the first (and last) time my ex threw me over the table. I haven't seen him since I left for hospital second time. I can understand what you meant, newidme ..that (many/some) women could have prevented more violence...but the problem is, he knows where I live and has the spare key. all I can hope that he won't come back knowing I'm defendless right now. as for what did I said... look, I'll PM you to answer your questions if you don't mind. I very much appreciate your concern, thank you.

oddball, thank you too. it's okay, I would feel offended if I didn't understood her (newidme's) intentions but I guess everyone just has a different way of wording sentiments. still I know, I didn't like hearing that way either. I really felt it was my fault not listening to my instinct immediately.. but, truth can be painful sometimes. you know, those stupid what ifs, suchlike if I wasn't alone with him or being too straighforward, I wouldn't have gotten hurt. thanks for the hug in other thread. glad you could understand, I so dearly needed that.

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I am so glad to hear the clarification. Thank you so much for understanding my intentions which is to be sure no body gets hurt. I am happy the accident didn't total you!!


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You should arrange to get the locks changed for the doors. So he can't uses that spare key to get in your home.

Glad you are doing alright now.
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You should arrange to get the locks changed for the doors. So he can't uses that spare key to get in your home.

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Ah Amen to that, I agree, I remembered I changed my locks on the door so my ex can come in the house.
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okay,...I reread. first of all, hello and welcome newidme. (NEW ID ME?) - just don't go ahead of me yet. alright, now, there is some misunderstanding here - the accident last february was vechile smasher (car accident). totalled. fortunately I wasn't.

and this was the first (and last) time my ex threw me over the table. I haven't seen him since I left for hospital second time. I can understand what you meant, newidme ..that (many/some) women could have prevented more violence...but the problem is, he knows where I live and has the spare key. all I can hope that he won't come back knowing I'm defendless right now. as for what did I said... look, I'll PM you to answer your questions if you don't mind. I very much appreciate your concern, thank you.

oddball, thank you too. it's okay, I would feel offended if I didn't understood her (newidme's) intentions but I guess everyone just has a different way of wording sentiments. still I know, I didn't like hearing that way either. I really felt it was my fault not listening to my instinct immediately.. but, truth can be painful sometimes. you know, those stupid what ifs, suchlike if I wasn't alone with him or being too straighforward, I wouldn't have gotten hurt. thanks for the hug in other thread. glad you could understand, I so dearly needed that.

thank you all again, vary of questions, perspectives and support do greatly help.
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Old 06-11-2008, 08:19 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I wouldn't either. but my second accident in april I stayed at hospital for a week, he was only one who could take care of my pets so I gave him my keys. I was hestiated to, and I had t. all I care was my animals to get their food and water.

when I came back home I found he had duplicated the keys without my constent. what could I do? he was my boyfriend back then, he knws my animals more than anyone in this city. now I can't change the locks, landlord said no. and I'm moving out in august so for now I am playing his games. just don't wanna another fight, no energy and am feeling really weak. risky I know, but safer maybe.
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