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**Jiro** · 06-24-2009, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

Jiro,

I'm in the process of gathering evidence. Be patient my friend.

oh ok cool. meanwhile - I'm wondering why am I not in bed yet at this ungodly hour but I had a long nap earlier due to cough medicine

Hear Again · 06-24-2009, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

oh ok cool. meanwhile - I'm wondering why am I not in bed yet at this ungodly hour but I had a long nap earlier due to cough medicine

Sorry you aren't feeling well. I'm up because I lost track of time. The last I checked, it was 10:30 and I was getting ready to go to bed, but then I went to read my e-mail and ended up here.

Lack of sleep is not good for my moods, but I think I'll be okay. I can always take a nap this afternoon. I don't have anything planned for today.

kokonut · 06-24-2009, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

Just because a projection is made doesn't mean it will happen kokonut.

Do you believe everything you read?

Um, hence the word "projection." Both the CBO and the White House both made projections. Things can and do change but if the mindset of president who thinks the answer to help solve a debt problem by adding more debts then surely that'll be the trend for the next 3.6 years.

He continues to spend money we don't have.
He continues to add new programs costing taxpayers additional billions of dollars more and not to mention billions more just to maintain those new or expanded programs. Money we don't have.

Please be aware that maxing out on credit cards isn't the solution to a debt problem. Everybody knows that, except Obama, of course.

Hear Again · 06-24-2009, 04:32 AM

kokonut,

If you are making a projection, it is not fact.

Therefore, you cannot claim with any validity that Obama will exceed GW Bush in terms of spending.

Hear Again · 06-24-2009, 04:34 AM

kokonut,

People were maxing their credit cards well before Obama became President. Obama has nothing to do with it.

jillio · 06-24-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

I have criticized Bush and all other presidents for allowing the debt to increase. When Bush took office, the national debt was $5.73 trillion. When he left, it was $10.7 trillion. That's a difference of $4.97 trillion dollars over 8 years. I believe in fiscal responsibility. Do you? Apparently Obama does not believe in it since he's already 1/3 the way to a total of $4.97 trillion dollars in matching Bush's increase in debt. The audacity here is that Obama managed to do that in his first few months as president. Obama will create the largest national debt ever in all of U.S. history. Just watch.

Why do you keep talking about all those big old numbers that all us poor ignorant people don't understand? Are you just trying to confuse us with all them big old numbers?

jillio · 06-24-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

No. Again, I stated that many people *are* clueless on what a trillion dollar looks like. It's a fact. Some people just do not realize how large a number, trillion, is like when it comes to money.

Learn not to be soooo defensive next time.

Don't need to know what it looks like to grasp the concept of the amount. Only someone without fluid intelligence and critical thinking skills needs to have such a concrete example.

Next time, don't be so insulting toward people's ability to comprehend.

jillio · 06-24-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

a few does. the many doesn't.

What a shame that I didn't have you and Kokonut around to help me complete 2 advanced degrees. You could have explained all those abstract concepts to me so much easier.

Hear Again · 06-24-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

What a shame that I didn't have you and Kokonut around to help me complete 2 advanced degrees. You could have explained all those abstract concepts to me so much easier.

Jillio,

I'm sure that post didn't make you happy, but I had to chuckle at your comment. It is rather insulting though.

jillio · 06-24-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

oh ok cool. meanwhile - I'm wondering why am I not in bed yet at this ungodly hour but I had a long nap earlier due to cough medicine

Well, now. That explains a lot.

**Jiro** · 06-24-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

What a shame that I didn't have you and Kokonut around to help me complete 2 advanced degrees. You could have explained all those abstract concepts to me so much easier.

did that 2 advanced degrees include economic degree?

**shel90** · 06-24-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

did that 2 advanced degrees include economic degree?

Jiro...I can comprehend what a trillion looks like....all it takes a little bit of imagination.

jillio · 06-24-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

did that 2 advanced degrees include economic degree?

Where exactly is your advanced degree....or even your undergraduate degree in economics? Non-existent. Don't go there, Jiro. You are on the underdog's side.

**Jiro** · 06-24-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Where exactly is your advanced degree....or even your undergraduate degree in economics? Non-existent. Don't go there, Jiro. You are on the underdog's side.

I'm asking you if your 2 advanced degrees include economics

jillio · 06-24-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

Jillio,

I'm sure that post didn't make you happy, but I had to chuckle at your comment. It is rather insulting though.

It is extremely insulting, not just to me, but to everyone else on this forum.

jillio · 06-24-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I'm asking you if your 2 advanced degrees include economics

Is your associate's degree in economics?

And, yes...had you ever earned an advanced degree you would understand that economic theories are used in the study of psychology all the time.

**Jiro** · 06-24-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Is your associate's degree in economics?

And, yes...had you ever earned an advanced degree you would understand that economic theories are used in the study of psychology all the time.

there are advanced degree and bachelor degree for economics.. and there's a reason for that.

All majors including my bachelor degree and minor degree do cover economic theories.

So Jillio - does your 2 advanced degrees include economics?

**Jiro** · 06-24-2009, 10:28 AM

yes? no?

Hear Again · 06-24-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It is extremely insulting, not just to me, but to everyone else on this forum.

I agree.

jillio · 06-24-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

there are advanced degree and bachelor degree for economics.. and there's a reason for that.

All majors including my bachelor degree and minor degree do cover economic theories.

So Jillio - does your 2 advanced degrees include economics?

Why do you keep asking a question I've already answered? Do you not understand what I said, or do you think if you ask it enough you'll get a different answer?

Do you have a degree in economics? The answer quite obviously is "No." So, since you don't have a degree in economics, how exactly is it that you seem to believe that you have a greater grasp of economic concepts than anyone else? What makes you think that others need a degree in economics to understand the same concepts you seem to think you understand without one?

Pick an economic theory and explain it to us. How about Diadic Reciprocity?

**Jiro** · 06-24-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Why do you keep asking a question I've already answered? Do you not understand what I said, or do you think if you ask it enough you'll get a different answer?

Do you have a degree in economics? The answer quite obviously is "No." So, since you don't have a degree in economics, how exactly is it that you seem to believe that you have a greater grasp of economic concepts than anyone else? What makes you think that others need a degree in economics to understand the same concepts you seem to think you understand without one?

Pick an economic theory and explain it to us. How about Diadic Reciprocity?

Have I claimed to know economics? I'm questioning your qualification since you seem to boasted your 2 advanced degrees in... uh... just about everything. So you finally answered and it's a "no". Well there you go.

btw - it's Dyadic

jillio · 06-24-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Have I claimed to know economics? I'm questioning your qualification since you seem to boasted your 2 advanced degrees in... uh... just about everything. So you finally answered and it's a "no". Well there you go.

btw - it's Dyadic

I've never claimed to have advanced degrees in everything. In fact, I have been quite specific in my field and my degrees.

And, yes, Jiro, you have on numerous occasions claimed to know economics.

Okay, you spelled it, now explain it.

**Jiro** · 06-24-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I've never claimed to have advanced degrees in everything. In fact, I have been quite specific in my field and my degrees.

And, yes, Jiro, you have on numerous occasions claimed to know economics.

Okay, you spelled it, now explain it.

I did? please show me where. I only have a basic understanding of economics but I have never claimed to be an expert on it. If I did, I would be chilling along with fat cats instead of working for university

And exactly why should I explain Dyadic Reciprocity to you? That term applies for you because you work with low income people, I don't. I know the economic terms pertinent to my field. Wanna explain what's SWOT Analysis?

kokonut · 06-24-2009, 11:48 AM

*eating popcorn*

munch..munch....(need more butter)

jillio · 06-24-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I did? please show me where. I only have a basic understanding of economics but I have never claimed to be an expert on it. If I did, I would be chilling along with fat cats instead of working for university

And exactly why should I explain Dyadic Reciprocity to you? That term applies for you because you work with low income people, I don't. I know the economic terms pertinent to my field. Wanna explain what's SWOT Analysis?

Uhhh....Dyadic Reciprocity has absolutely nothing to do with low income people. And I work with people of all income levels, thank you. You have no idea who my client base is or what their income levels are.

Actually, SWOT analysis is a concept borrowed from the counseling profession based on a strengths and needs analysis. The most popular one in use today is the Strong Interest Inventory. It was borrowed and applied to business ventures to determine the best way to apply the abilities, the strengths, and the opportunities within business ventures.

Hear Again · 06-24-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Uhhh....Dyadic Reciprocity has absolutely nothing to do with low income people. And I work with people of all income levels, thank you. You have no idea who my client base is or what their income levels are.

Actually, SWOT analysis is a concept borrowed from the counseling profession based on a strengths and needs analysis. The most popular one in use today is the Strong Interest Inventory. It was borrowed and applied to business ventures to determine the best way to apply the abilities, the strengths, and the opportunities within business ventures.

Jiro was

Hear Again · 06-24-2009, 12:15 PM

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*eating popcorn*

munch..munch....(need more butter)

**Jiro** · 06-24-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Uhhh....Dyadic Reciprocity has absolutely nothing to do with low income people. And I work with people of all income levels, thank you. You have no idea who my client base is or what their income levels are.

yes it does. It covers it, doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by jillio

Actually, SWOT analysis is a concept borrowed from the counseling profession based on a strengths and needs analysis. The most popular one in use today is the Strong Interest Inventory. It was borrowed and applied to business ventures to determine the best way to apply the abilities, the strengths, and the opportunities within business ventures.

business and stock market is the old game of psychology. It is not uncommon of companies to hire the consultant with psychology degree to reorganize their policy or workforce.

for ie - Googlefantalism - an explanation to why its retention rate is relatively shaky.

**sequoias** · 06-24-2009, 12:24 PM

Keep up the good work arguing with Jillio, that'll keep Alldeaf busy.

kokonut · 06-24-2009, 12:32 PM

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Keep up the good work arguing with Jillio, that'll keep Alldeaf busy.

Two egos battling it out!

(munch...munch....now I'm thristy!)

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