seizure

**Smithtr** · 03-14-2009, 02:58 PM

I am seziure Iam very scared. I have seziure because I have illness really concern about to seizure...

That is true story. I am sad feeling heart to my life. my family scared reason why my parents son SmithTr.

That is point I am very i am very concern about to scared. I am very serious..

Oceanbreeze · 03-14-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by smithtr

I am seziure Iam very scared. I have seziure because I have illness really concern about to seizure...

That is true story. I am sad feeling heart to my life. my family scared reason why my parents son SmithTr.

That is point I am very i am very concern about to scared. I am very serious..

You need to talk to your doctors about your meds.

**Smithtr** · 03-14-2009, 03:40 PM

yes i think so good doctor neugolist to observe to my medication. I think so really concern about to seziure. i'd want screw up because I have to talk to important doctor inspector my seizure. That is why important to help you.... I cannot give up because I am responsibility important to talk doctor..

sara1981 · 03-16-2009, 07:47 PM

you can talk doctor about medicine

im been history sezuire when i was 12 years old but i using medicine everyday in AM/PM order by doctors.

makes sure if you have:
Strokes
Sezuires

seizures very serious and also strokes too!

**Smithtr** · 03-20-2009, 10:51 PM

i surprised I am scared. I was worrried I worried i will to psychiast let know make sure correct medication.. I have really serious that is not funny.. That is very dangerous on seziure. I understand I guess symptom is how can you know explain to me more question to medication. I think so prevent to seziure That isn't good without to medication that is not good.. I hope be go to hospital I have high pulse 159 wow that is I am surprised. I was school, student witness to Smithtr I know let sure make sure health.. Hope be change my life..

jasin · 03-26-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by smithtr

I am seziure Iam very scared. I have seziure because I have illness really concern about to seizure...

That is true story. I am sad feeling heart to my life. my family scared reason why my parents son SmithTr.

That is point I am very i am very concern about to scared. I am very serious..

I have seizures too. Try asking your doctor about Clonazepam. You can take that prn (as needed) and its very strong stuff. The stuff is almost as strong as ativan, as far as stoping a seizure goes, which is what they typically give you in the er when you are having a seizure or they need to prevent you from having another.

**Smithtr** · 03-29-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

I have seizures too. Try asking your doctor about Clonazepam. You can take that prn (as needed) and its very strong stuff. The stuff is almost as strong as ativan, as far as stoping a seizure goes, which is what they typically give you in the er when you are having a seizure or they need to prevent you from having another.

It is good idea, you are think so important to prevent to seziure because i hope be better safe.... I am happy sound great... I hope be ready make sure feeling safe. I don't want to sick because I have illness really sad....

That is watch out to medication.. I before ativan is help you calm down.. I hope be you relax..

**Bottesini** · 03-29-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by smithtr

It is good idea, you are think so important to prevent to seziure because i hope be better safe.... I am happy sound great... I hope be ready make sure feeling safe. I don't want to sick because I have illness really sad....

That is watch out to medication.. I before ativan is help you calm down.. I hope be you relax..

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Ativan (Lorazepam) is in the class of medications known as benzodiazepams (Valium is in the same class) . THey work by changing the electrolyte channels in brain cells to depress brain activity . At low doses they do in fact decrease "anxiety" feelings. However at slightly higher doses they will change enough of the channels to "stop a seizure". Many drugs that were developed as anti seizure drugs are currently now used to help psychiatric conditions (Depakote, neurontin, Topamax, etc.) Since they were developed to "get into the brain" to stop seizures , it is not sucha a stretch of the imagination to think that they also "get into the brain" to help psychiatric conditions such as depression, anxiety, bipolar, etc. Hope this response is helpful

How does ativan stop a seizure? - Yahoo! Answers

Ativan in higher doses helps with seizures too. It is not only to calm you down.

dogmom · 03-30-2009, 08:36 AM

hope u feel better today, smithtr!

hohDougRN · 03-30-2009, 01:24 PM

Jason, Klonopin (clonazepam) isn't that strong of medication. If a patient is having an acute seizure activity in the hospital or ER, Valium or Ativan is what is most likely to be given. Valium probably 90% of the time. Clonazepam cannot even be administered IV. The relationship it has to seizure activity is same as anyone taking benzodiazepines long term. If taken long term and you stop taking them suddenly, you may experience seizure activity if susceptable to them. There are much more appropriate maintenance medications to take when sufferring seizure disorders.

jasin · 03-30-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smithtr

It is good idea, you are think so important to prevent to seziure because i hope be better safe.... I am happy sound great... I hope be ready make sure feeling safe. I don't want to sick because I have illness really sad....

That is watch out to medication.. I before ativan is help you calm down.. I hope be you relax..

Clonazepam is not Ativan! Please do not confuse these drugs as being the same drug. I was just merely analogizing and nothing more.

jasin · 03-30-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hohDougRN

[COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="4"]Jason, Klonopin (clonazepam) isn't that strong of medication.

Clonazepam is a very "highly potent anti-convulsant". The drug does, after all, inhibit synaptic transmission across the central nervous system.

sources:

1. Cowen PJ; Green AR, Nutt DJ (March 1981). "Ethyl beta-carboline carboxylate lowers seizure threshold and antagonizes flurazepam-induced sedation in rats". Nature 290 (5801): 54–5. doi:10.1038/290054a0. PMID 6259533.

2. Lehoullier PF, Ticku MK (March 1987). "Benzodiazepine and beta-carboline modulation of GABA-stimulated 36Cl-influx in cultured spinal cord neurons". Eur. J. Pharmacol. 135 (2): 235–8. doi:10.1016/0014-2999(87)90617-0. PMID 3034628.

jasin · 03-30-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hohDougRN

Clonazepam cannot even be administered IV.

Medications are given intravenously, as in the case of some anti-convulsants, because it is a faster method of getting a drug into the blood stream not because the drug being administered is more potent then another.

jasin · 03-30-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

How does ativan stop a seizure? - Yahoo! Answers

Ativan in higher doses helps with seizures too. It is not only to calm you down.

You are correct! Its not just a muscle relaxant. Besides, its main use is as an anticonvulsant.

hohDougRN · 03-30-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Clonazepam is a very "highly potent anti-convulsant". The drug does, after all, inhibit synaptic transmission across the central nervous system.

sources:

1. Cowen PJ; Green AR, Nutt DJ (March 1981). "Ethyl beta-carboline carboxylate lowers seizure threshold and antagonizes flurazepam-induced sedation in rats". Nature 290 (5801): 54–5. doi:10.1038/290054a0. PMID 6259533.

2. Lehoullier PF, Ticku MK (March 1987). "Benzodiazepine and beta-carboline modulation of GABA-stimulated 36Cl-influx in cultured spinal cord neurons". Eur. J. Pharmacol. 135 (2): 235–8. doi:10.1016/0014-2999(87)90617-0. PMID 3034628.

Are you trying to educate me or prove a point with something? Please don't presume that there is anything about ANY drug that I cannot rehearse a lecture without any "sources"

jasin · 04-02-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hohDougRN

Are you trying to educate me or prove a point with something? Please don't presume that there is anything about ANY drug that I cannot rehearse a lecture without any "sources"

Just pointing out that your statement about Clonazepam is wrong.

Oceanbreeze · 04-02-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Just pointing out that your statement about Clonazepam is wrong.

Actually, no he wasn't.

Ativan and Klonopin are both benzodiazepine tranquilizers. They are also both used for a myriad of reasons; seizure control being one of them. Ativan is more widely used for acute seizure; whereas klonopin is more widely used as maintenance, I believe.

At any rate, neither med is necessarily superior to the other. They both are good for what they are prescribed for. But, besides that, NONE of us really should be recommending medications as NONE of us are doctors.

**Daredevel7** · 04-02-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze

But, besides that, NONE of us really should be recommending medications as NONE of us are doctors.

uuh.. yea....

I hope smithtr is taking advice from actual doctors.

Oceanbreeze · 04-02-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

uuh.. yea....

I hope smithtr is taking advice from actual doctors.

Me too.

**Smithtr** · 04-02-2009, 05:37 PM

i will go to doctor april 6th and interpeter help me neuoglist.. I was very happy person caregive must with us all the time.. I am happy wonderful i was very happy smile.. I was very happy...

jasin · 04-02-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze

Actually, no he wasn't.

Ativan and Klonopin are both benzodiazepine tranquilizers. They are also both used for a myriad of reasons; seizure control being one of them. Ativan is more widely used for acute seizure; whereas klonopin is more widely used as maintenance, I believe.

At any rate, neither med is necessarily superior to the other.

Ahh, but you are talking about something entirely different. You are not addressing the strength of the drug, which is what I was doing as he clearly stated clonazepam "isn't that strong".

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Jason, Klonopin (clonazepam) isn't that strong of medication.

Therefore, my statement(s) about clonazepam being a "highly potent" drug, which is a fact, is still valid and he is still clearly wrong.

jasin · 04-02-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smithtr

i will go to doctor april 6th and interpeter help me neuoglist.. I was very happy person caregive must with us all the time.. I am happy wonderful i was very happy smile.. I was very happy...

That is great

I hope and pray for the best in your situation.

jasin · 04-02-2009, 08:23 PM

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But, besides that, NONE of us really should be recommending medications as NONE of us are doctors.

I made no recommendation.

Oceanbreeze · 04-02-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Ahh, but you are talking about something entirely different. You are not addressing the strength of the drug, which is what I was doing as he clearly stated clonazepam "isn't that strong". Therefore, my statement(s) about clonazepam being a "highly potent" drug, which is a fact, is still valid and he is still clearly wrong.

No, he wasn't. Potency has nothing to do with it. It has to do with the use of the med. Ativan is used for acute seizures. If you come to the ER seizing, the doctor isn't going to mess around trying to get clonazepam into you when all he has to do is run an IV and give you ativan.

I'm not going to debate this with you, though. To tell you the truth, I think you're being a bit egostistical trying to argue with someone with the medical training to know what he is talking about.

Just my two cents. Now, I'm out.

jasin · 04-03-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze

No, he wasn't. Potency has nothing to do with it. It has to do with the use of the med.

He did bring up stuff about the strength of the drug stating that it,

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isn't that strong of medication.

As for potency. The word "Potency" can be used to refer to the strength of something.

From the medline plus medical dictionary:

Main Entry: po·ten·cy
Pronunciation: primarystresspomacrt-schwan-semacron
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
: the quality or state of being potent: as a : chemical or medicinal strength or efficacy <a drug's potency> b : the ability to copulate -- usually used of the male c : initial inherent capacity for development of a particular kind <cells with a potency for eye formation>

MedlinePlus: Medical Dictionary

From the merriam-webster dictionary:

Main Entry:
po·ten·cy Listen to the pronunciation of potency
Pronunciation:
\ˈpō-tən(t)-sē\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural po·ten·cies
Date:
15th century

1 a: force , power b: the quality or state of being potent c: the ability or capacity to achieve or bring about a particular result

2: potentiality 1

potency - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

jasin · 04-03-2009, 01:00 AM

Oceanbreeze, I am not debating you. I am just merely pointing out that what you are saying is not true.

Hear Again · 04-03-2009, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by smithtr

i will go to doctor april 6th and interpeter help me neuoglist.. I was very happy person caregive must with us all the time.. I am happy wonderful i was very happy smile.. I was very happy...

I'm glad you're feeling better, Travis.

Good luck at the neurologist on April 6th!

Hear Again · 04-03-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Clonazepam is a very "highly potent anti-convulsant".

I take Clonazepam (for my bipolar) and from what my psychiatrist told me, this med is potent, but isn't one of the strongest benzos available. If I remember correctly, it's either the third or fourth most potent out of all of the bezos that are prescribed.

Hear Again · 04-03-2009, 02:37 AM

As far as Clonazepam and Ativan are concerned, Ativan is a fast-acting med. It works much faster than Clonazepam.

However, Clonazepam has a longer half-life meaning that it stays in the bloodstream for 8-12 hours.

jasin · 04-03-2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

I take Clonazepam (for my bipolar) and from what my psychiatrist told me, this med is potent, but isn't one of the strongest benzos available. If I remember correctly, it's either the third or fourth most potent out of all of the bezos that are prescribed.

yep, it is a potent drug.

03-14-2009, 02:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,655	seizure I am seziure Iam very scared. I have seziure because I have illness really concern about to seizure... That is true story. I am sad feeling heart to my life. my family scared reason why my parents son SmithTr. That is point I am very i am very concern about to scared. I am very serious..

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sara1981 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Little Rock,Ar Posts: 7,049	you can talk doctor about medicine im been history sezuire when i was 12 years old but i using medicine everyday in AM/PM order by doctors. makes sure if you have: Strokes Sezuires seizures very serious and also strokes too! __________________

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hohDougRN Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: utah Posts: 3,257	Jason, Klonopin (clonazepam) isn't that strong of medication. If a patient is having an acute seizure activity in the hospital or ER, Valium or Ativan is what is most likely to be given. Valium probably 90% of the time. Clonazepam cannot even be administered IV. The relationship it has to seizure activity is same as anyone taking benzodiazepines long term. If taken long term and you stop taking them suddenly, you may experience seizure activity if susceptable to them. There are much more appropriate maintenance medications to take when sufferring seizure disorders. __________________ *Doug*

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03-14-2009, 03:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,655	yes i think so good doctor neugolist to observe to my medication. I think so really concern about to seziure. i'd want screw up because I have to talk to important doctor inspector my seizure. That is why important to help you.... I cannot give up because I am responsibility important to talk doctor..

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Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,655	i surprised I am scared. I was worrried I worried i will to psychiast let know make sure correct medication.. I have really serious that is not funny.. That is very dangerous on seziure. I understand I guess symptom is how can you know explain to me more question to medication. I think so prevent to seziure That isn't good without to medication that is not good.. I hope be go to hospital I have high pulse 159 wow that is I am surprised. I was school, student witness to Smithtr I know let sure make sure health.. Hope be change my life..

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dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,471	hope u feel better today, smithtr!

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Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,655	i will go to doctor april 6th and interpeter help me neuoglist.. I was very happy person caregive must with us all the time.. I am happy wonderful i was very happy smile.. I was very happy...

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jasin Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 1,570	Oceanbreeze, I am not debating you. I am just merely pointing out that what you are saying is not true.

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Hear Again Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,122 Blog Entries: 6	As far as Clonazepam and Ativan are concerned, Ativan is a fast-acting med. It works much faster than Clonazepam. However, Clonazepam has a longer half-life meaning that it stays in the bloodstream for 8-12 hours.