Non Health Related Off Topic Issues - Page 3

ncff07 · 02-02-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

I do mind cause you tell it every day!

someone posted they didnt truly understand what rapid cycling meant and she just informed them of it.

Secretblend · 02-02-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

so deal with it.

I am dealing with it.

Hear Again · 02-02-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

I am dealing with it.

good for you.

Secretblend · 02-02-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

good for you.

Told ya my charm was too powerful for you to put me on ignore list.

**Beowulf** · 02-02-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

good for you.

I agree. FINALLY an ad homenim appears.

Hear Again · 02-02-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

I agree. FINALLY an ad homenim appears.

Hear Again · 02-02-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

Told ya my charm was too powerful for you to put me on ignore list.

secretblend, do me a favor and stop trolling me by telling me how much charm you have. i'm not impressed -- or convinced for that matter.

chris' mom · 02-02-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

How would we determine who is allowed to go in there?

probably people with mental issues

ncff07 · 02-02-2009, 11:59 PM

forgive me for my stupidity.. but what is ad homenim? and what is trolling?

Secretblend · 02-03-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

secretblend, do me a favor and stop trolling me by telling me how much charm you have. i'm not impressed -- or convinced for that matter.

Now you know how I feel when you spout out same stuff everyday.

With that, I'm done!

**Jiro** · 02-03-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ncff07

forgive me for my stupidity.. but what is ad homenim?

see Banjo's thread

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Originally Posted by ncff07

and what is trolling?

AD's rule -

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3.) NO TROLLING. A troll is someone who provokes members into flaming discussions by posting outrageous messages, and usually ends with name callings and flame wars.

Hear Again · 02-03-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ncff07

forgive me for my stupidity.. but what is ad homenim? and what is trolling?

an ad hominem is a fallacy in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of irrelevant facts.

trolling is one poster following another on various threads to incite arguments.

Hear Again · 02-03-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

Now you know how I feel when you spout out same stuff everyday.

With that, I'm done!

if you don't like the things i have to say, put me on ignore.

ncff07 · 02-03-2009, 12:08 AM

Jiro, Hear Again, thank you.

Hear Again · 02-03-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ncff07

Jiro, Hear Again, thank you.

you're welcome.

chris' mom · 02-03-2009, 12:14 AM

could it be that you are thinking he's trolling or is it just he happened to have logged in to certain things looking at new post

Hear Again · 02-03-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chris' mom

could it be that you are thinking he's trolling or is it just he happened to have logged in to certain things looking at new post

secretblend is trolling me. he's never posted in any of the topics concerning mental health before, so i know for a fact he's trolling. he also wants to take the opportunity to incite me by agreeing with reba as a means of personal attack. i already apologized for what i did, so there was no need to write

with that, i have nothing more to say about secretblend since it is off-topic.

**Beowulf** · 02-03-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

secretblend is trolling me. he's never posted in any of the topics concerning mental health before, so i know for a fact he's trolling. he also wants to take the opportunity to incite me by agreeing with reba as a means of personal attack. i already apologized for what i did, so there was no need to write

with that, i have nothing more to say about secretblend since it is off-topic.

Good grief, lady, quite the spitfire, aren't you?

***naisho*** · 02-03-2009, 12:31 AM

This is probably too late for most people to see, but hopefully if they do see it..

I stand neutral on the whole issue. I don't see a harm or a benefit of having or not having a psychoneurology-type forum. It's 50/50 to me.

If one is created however, I would suggest that there is a disclaimer to be edited or added into the registration policies stating that neither Alex nor any mods nor users of alldeaf.com in general are responsible for the outcomes that happens in the "Psych" section. Reason said is because the advice there, will not come from you, and should something happen to someone and a loved one comes to seek revenge on the cookie trail, it doesn't bode well for anyone. Not just Alex, but everyone else on the forum.

Plus, you want to state that members unaffiliated with the psych "diagnosis" for people in that section, are not responsible for sudden outbursts by members under mental illness or in that form, because I can easily see anyone randomly saying something might get caught in the line of fire between two others discussing something, and as a result some people may get infuriated even further.

If one is to not be created, we just simply proceed as we always have been. I do recognize a surge in the recent topics regarding mental health, but perhaps it's some things that are triggering it. Certain people prefer to ask medical related questions, and the rest of the bunch proceed to answer if they are experienced or if offering an opinion in that area. I would have to say however, recently as late as December there was one member responsible for a major surge in health related discussions.

It's actually the person that initiates the talking, everyone just follows suit afterwards.

PS. I also have to add, on this forum we're not just about one particular hobby or something in general. It seems like this is a virtual reality of our real life, where we come to actually converse, joke around, enlighten each other and that such. There aren't that many of these types of forums out there, because usually most forums are based on one particular thing. Like Rotten Tomato's forums, Car Forums, Game Forums.. ETC. Those do have discussion about general things like ours, but it's not in-depth where we're open about everything. We're like an online villa/community when everyone is talking, really. Its understandable why we have the need to converse though, since some of us are hard of hearing or deaf in one way or the other.

ncff07 - good examples of trolling here for you to see. This is what I deem as serious trolling, not lighthearted or joking type of trolling. This is the kind to get you warned/banned.
1 (suspect: posts from hell)
2 (suspect: Desumon)

Hear Again · 02-03-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Good grief, lady, quite the spitfire, aren't you?

what can i say? it's the bp (bipolar) in me!

chris' mom · 02-03-2009, 12:37 AM

since you having nothing to say about him anymore I choose not to quote you..

But for other people to understand..he does have family members that deal with mental issues. So maybe he was on these post to find out more about the issue and maybe one day give insight to what it's like to be on the other side of the fence.

Anyways about Non Health Related Off Topic issues..I think we all need to use caution when posting..no because of others but this is a public forum and you don't want too much info out.

Hear Again · 02-03-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chris' mom

But for other people to understand..he does have family members that deal with mental issues. So maybe he was on these post to find out more about the issue and maybe one day give insight to what it's like to be on the other side of the fence.

yeah. i can see where secretblend was trying to gleam more information about mental illness from this thread by taking the opportunity to agree with reba about my rapid cycling.

funny how that was the only post he made -- aside from the others in which he was argumentative.

ncff07 · 02-03-2009, 01:33 AM

aye naisho i read those and see your point. looks kinda childish to me.

i think some kinda of subforum under the health/lifestyle main forum (or create another main forum on the homepage for it) would be beneficial for those to discuss mental health issues but think it should be private somehow like has already been stated but not entirely closed as someone may need advice or a question about the subject and want to ask it there. and keep the topic of mental health and related to that particular forum so it wont take over the other threads like it has been. and if the name psych ward or some other name used, have the mods or members brainstorm and come up with different names for it with a deadline for submissions and after that deadline take all the suggested names for it and put into a polled thread and let the users decide. anyways just a couple thoughts i had.

Tousi · 02-03-2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

i suppose jillio could be a moderator for pysch ward thread and she's good at detecting malingerer so she can issue access for those who requests for it and banish the troublemakers.

I also think that "room" could use a spiritual advisor as well.

LuciaDisturbed · 02-03-2009, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

i also think those who admittedly feign suicidal ideations and psychosis ought to be permanently banned from ad.

I agree.

People who malinger or feign suicidal ideations, psychosis, and any other mental health issues/problems/illnesses annoy the **** out of me and I have absolutely ZERO respect for them except hope that they will get psychiatric help for their malingering issues so that they can stop malingering and feigning.

LuciaDisturbed · 02-03-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs Bucket

I am not judging anyone at all. I have always believed personal responsibility was each person's own.

When I get upset, I leave too. Today I actually typed "STFU" when I normally keep my cool.

I prefer not to use ignore because how can we deal with reality if we use the ignore button. In reality, there's no ignore button.

I've yet to judge a person here in AD and why would I want to?

Honestly, it's tiring to go through this. Reba just said it all for me.

We feel we aren't able to meet anyone halfway at all if anyone accuses us of judging, or any other action.

Yeah, and I typed STFU right back at you because you absolutely have NO idea what it is like to have PTSD or any other psychiatric issues.

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-03-2009, 03:29 AM

Good thread, I'm glad that you created a thread, Jolie_77. Yes that's exact what I feel and think the same way.

LuciaDisturbed · 02-03-2009, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

Told ya my charm was too powerful for you to put me on ignore list.

You sound like a 80 year old grandmother who shows her charm by pinching the cheeks of her grandchildren who are already too old for that kind of affection (such as a 14 year old grandson) and saying, "wow, you have gotten so big and so adorable!"

Frisky Feline · 02-03-2009, 05:03 AM

i am with MRS.Bucket. she didn't twist her words and her statement coms from her own feeling. I do feel that way too.

if there is an addition private section and then it needs to add "disclamier" at your own risk since AD has NO license for doctor or counselor. Psych ward can be either related with several subs of mental health issues as serious, and other sub can be silly threads on our own thoughts and anything.

Cookie Monster · 02-03-2009, 07:27 AM

I don't give a shit about your personal issue.

Alldeaf.com isn't a place where people blah blah about personal issue, seek for healing that something we aren’t fully aware of physically or mentally health. Personal issue belong to home because neither internet nor we solve your issue anyway.

I can't help noticing some people don't know how to do the "discussion" to educate each other. Most of them tend to say you don't know our personal issue, because you never been there, so what! I don't give a SHIT! Period...

Remember Internet is just entertainment, nothing personal. Internet offers you unlimited options but always have to be careful. Hackers and demoralizers are waiting out there in Internet. Also don’t forget, Internet could make you lonely, having imaginative friends, having fantasy, withdrawing from society, and words that didn't exist in daily life. I come to Internet for entertainment where we enjoy talking about something positive, teasing, and exchange words which make the members feel welcome. If you come to Internet for healing or seek help then you come to wrong place.

Emotional vampire is what I seen in Alldeaf.com.

Where is your motivation? Where is your personal touch?

I see a thread… Hugs Thread, what happen to hug like real person, I can feel warm, soft, and arms around my neck, wow what a good feeling. But Hugs on Internet will not help at all.

I see a person crying, I cry. I see a person sad, I offer hug. I see a person frustating, I offer help. I see a person lonely, I offer companyship.

Unfortunately, Alldeaf only offer is… words, words didn’t express any emotions at all because words spoken from Internet are basically carry the codes that we don’t understand. You see why human feeling, touching are much stronger than languages. If I see a person speaking different language but same emotion as us, then we offer same thing.

Sometimes I seen a person typing angry message on his/her blog similar to angry letter because they use their blogs or letters to express out their angry and frustrating but they do come back anytime soon. Why? Of course we are humans.

02-03-2009, 12:14 AM	#76 (permalink)
chris' mom Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 975	could it be that you are thinking he's trolling or is it just he happened to have logged in to certain things looking at new post __________________ Lori & Sons Children are a gift from the Lord, indeed, they are a blessing.

02-03-2009, 12:31 AM	#79 (permalink)
*naisho* Forum Disorders M.D.,Ph.D Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 6,162	This is probably too late for most people to see, but hopefully if they do see it.. I stand neutral on the whole issue. I don't see a harm or a benefit of having or not having a psychoneurology-type forum. It's 50/50 to me. If one is created however, I would suggest that there is a disclaimer to be edited or added into the registration policies stating that neither Alex nor any mods nor users of alldeaf.com in general are responsible for the outcomes that happens in the "Psych" section. Reason said is because the advice there, will not come from you, and should something happen to someone and a loved one comes to seek revenge on the cookie trail, it doesn't bode well for anyone. Not just Alex, but everyone else on the forum. Plus, you want to state that members unaffiliated with the psych "diagnosis" for people in that section, are not responsible for sudden outbursts by members under mental illness or in that form, because I can easily see anyone randomly saying something might get caught in the line of fire between two others discussing something, and as a result some people may get infuriated even further. If one is to not be created, we just simply proceed as we always have been. I do recognize a surge in the recent topics regarding mental health, but perhaps it's some things that are triggering it. Certain people prefer to ask medical related questions, and the rest of the bunch proceed to answer if they are experienced or if offering an opinion in that area. I would have to say however, recently as late as December there was one member responsible for a major surge in health related discussions. It's actually the person that initiates the talking, everyone just follows suit afterwards. PS. I also have to add, on this forum we're not just about one particular hobby or something in general. It seems like this is a virtual reality of our real life, where we come to actually converse, joke around, enlighten each other and that such. There aren't that many of these types of forums out there, because usually most forums are based on one particular thing. Like Rotten Tomato's forums, Car Forums, Game Forums.. ETC. Those do have discussion about general things like ours, but it's not in-depth where we're open about everything. We're like an online villa/community when everyone is talking, really. Its understandable why we have the need to converse though, since some of us are hard of hearing or deaf in one way or the other. ncff07 - good examples of trolling here for you to see. This is what I deem as serious trolling, not lighthearted or joking type of trolling. This is the kind to get you warned/banned. 1 (suspect: posts from hell) 2 (suspect: Desumon) __________________

02-03-2009, 12:37 AM	#81 (permalink)
chris' mom Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 975	since you having nothing to say about him anymore I choose not to quote you.. But for other people to understand..he does have family members that deal with mental issues. So maybe he was on these post to find out more about the issue and maybe one day give insight to what it's like to be on the other side of the fence. Anyways about Non Health Related Off Topic issues..I think we all need to use caution when posting..no because of others but this is a public forum and you don't want too much info out. __________________ Lori & Sons Children are a gift from the Lord, indeed, they are a blessing.

02-03-2009, 03:29 AM	#87 (permalink)
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02-02-2009, 11:59 PM	#69 (permalink)
ncff07 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,588	forgive me for my stupidity.. but what is ad homenim? and what is trolling?

02-03-2009, 12:08 AM	#74 (permalink)
ncff07 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,588	Jiro, Hear Again, thank you.

02-03-2009, 01:33 AM	#83 (permalink)
ncff07 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,588	aye naisho i read those and see your point. looks kinda childish to me. i think some kinda of subforum under the health/lifestyle main forum (or create another main forum on the homepage for it) would be beneficial for those to discuss mental health issues but think it should be private somehow like has already been stated but not entirely closed as someone may need advice or a question about the subject and want to ask it there. and keep the topic of mental health and related to that particular forum so it wont take over the other threads like it has been. and if the name psych ward or some other name used, have the mods or members brainstorm and come up with different names for it with a deadline for submissions and after that deadline take all the suggested names for it and put into a polled thread and let the users decide. anyways just a couple thoughts i had.

02-03-2009, 05:03 AM	#89 (permalink)
Frisky Feline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20,237	i am with MRS.Bucket. she didn't twist her words and her statement coms from her own feeling. I do feel that way too. if there is an addition private section and then it needs to add "disclamier" at your own risk since AD has NO license for doctor or counselor. Psych ward can be either related with several subs of mental health issues as serious, and other sub can be silly threads on our own thoughts and anything.

02-03-2009, 07:27 AM	#90 (permalink)
Cookie Monster Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 814	I don't give a shit about your personal issue. Alldeaf.com isn't a place where people blah blah about personal issue, seek for healing that something we aren’t fully aware of physically or mentally health. Personal issue belong to home because neither internet nor we solve your issue anyway. I can't help noticing some people don't know how to do the "discussion" to educate each other. Most of them tend to say you don't know our personal issue, because you never been there, so what! I don't give a SHIT! Period... Remember Internet is just entertainment, nothing personal. Internet offers you unlimited options but always have to be careful. Hackers and demoralizers are waiting out there in Internet. Also don’t forget, Internet could make you lonely, having imaginative friends, having fantasy, withdrawing from society, and words that didn't exist in daily life. I come to Internet for entertainment where we enjoy talking about something positive, teasing, and exchange words which make the members feel welcome. If you come to Internet for healing or seek help then you come to wrong place. Emotional vampire is what I seen in Alldeaf.com. Where is your motivation? Where is your personal touch? I see a thread… Hugs Thread, what happen to hug like real person, I can feel warm, soft, and arms around my neck, wow what a good feeling. But Hugs on Internet will not help at all. I see a person crying, I cry. I see a person sad, I offer hug. I see a person frustating, I offer help. I see a person lonely, I offer companyship. Unfortunately, Alldeaf only offer is… words, words didn’t express any emotions at all because words spoken from Internet are basically carry the codes that we don’t understand. You see why human feeling, touching are much stronger than languages. If I see a person speaking different language but same emotion as us, then we offer same thing. Sometimes I seen a person typing angry message on his/her blog similar to angry letter because they use their blogs or letters to express out their angry and frustrating but they do come back anytime soon. Why? Of course we are humans.