Hello

Cylly1 · 04-25-2012, 03:26 PM

My name is Fatima, and I'd really love to practice my sign language skills. As of right now, I've only been practicing Sign "Exact" English and I know ASL is completely different and so much more.

Anij · 04-25-2012, 03:27 PM

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Just wondering why you are learning SEE?

**Bottesini** · 04-25-2012, 03:42 PM

I wager they are practicing what we would call PSE on their own.

Anij · 04-25-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

I wager they are practicing what we would call PSE on their own.

That would be better than SEE

**Bottesini** · 04-25-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anij

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That would be better than SEE

I have noticed a lot of hearing people who decide to take up signing don't really understand the difference.

Cylly1 · 04-25-2012, 04:19 PM

Well I don't have anyone to really teach ASL to me. There are classes around, but they want to me apply and pay them to learn. So, I just did it on my own

Anij · 04-25-2012, 04:33 PM

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Ummm...ok.

Just in case you're not aware, SEE isn't actually used in the Deaf community. It's a classroom tool used to teach deaf children English writing.

If you're really interested in learning to sign, I'd urge you to look into proper ASL classes taught by native/near-native Hoh or Deaf users.

It's worth the money to learn something correctly, is actually used by the Hoh/Deaf community... (And isn't something a vast number of us actually find a bit offensive - aka SEE)

Anij · 04-25-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

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Originally Posted by Anij

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That would be better than SEE

I have noticed a lot of hearing people who decide to take up signing don't really understand the difference.

I'm guessing they also don't know that for a lot of us SEE is a "bad taste in our mouths" ... Something Hearing people inflicted on us, while stripping our own Language from us (ASL/BSL etc)

***naisho*** · 04-25-2012, 06:01 PM

よろしくですー!日本語を勉強しましたか? （￣ー￣）

Welcome to the forums. I echo thoughts with the rest of the posters that SEE seems more of an instructional tool than it is for a day to day conversation... You might realize it once you compare deaf signers socializing and see which they prefer.

Cylly1 · 04-25-2012, 06:38 PM

Okay. So, umm I appreciate the post and everything, but not everyone has the $ to learn what they want. I'm broke a** college student lol and I just really wanted to learn ASL as another one of my languages to practice. I like to connect with other people and I don't want there to be any language barrier between me learning about them. I prefer not to have a translator and learn through my own means.

-so I'm not trying to strip anyone of their language. I just don't have anyone to teach or learn with me other than what I can do on my own, in this case SEE. If I offended anyone then I apologize. I don't have money to pay for classes, because I'm saving up for my trip to Japan this fall.

-if someone wants to take pity on the broke college student, then you could teach me the correct way

I'd be more than happy to learn

Cylly1 · 04-25-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by naisho

よろしくですー!日本語を勉強しましたか? （￣ー￣）

Welcome to the forums. I echo thoughts with the rest of the posters that SEE seems more of an instructional tool than it is for a day to day conversation... You might realize it once you compare deaf signers socializing and see which they prefer.

I'm not exactly fluent in Japanese yet, but yes I am studying and hopefully after I return from Japan this fall I will be.

I understand that ASL and SEE are two completely different things, I just don't have anyone to practice with so I just sign songs I listen to.

はじめまして！私はりょういです。おなあえはなんですか？

Cylly1 · 04-25-2012, 06:44 PM

I really didn't mean to offend you or anyone one here. So, I apologize. I only want to learn

Cloggy · 04-26-2012, 11:08 AM

ので嬉しい私はこれを記述する必要はありません...
だから、愚かな1ですか？
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Just noticing the translation back to English is no good..

"write" is translated with "describe" and "silly" with "stupid"...

***naisho*** · 04-26-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cylly1

I'm not exactly fluent in Japanese yet, but yes I am studying and hopefully after I return from Japan this fall I will be.

はじめまして！私はりょういです。おなあえはなんですか？

Sounds awesome. I've studied on and off for awhile, but still have yet to visit Tokyo sometime. My cousin's pretty fluent in it, although it is not our native language. You can just call me Vic.

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Originally Posted by Cylly1

I understand that ASL and SEE are two completely different things, I just don't have anyone to practice with so I just sign songs I listen to.

It's cool to learn, once you meet real people (especially deafened sign users) your learning speed will go really fast in matter of days.

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

ので嬉しい私はこれを記述する必要はありません...
だから、愚かな1ですか？

What are you trying to say? I don't understand the grammar used in it.

Cloggy · 04-26-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by naisho

..What are you trying to say? I don't understand the grammar used in it.

So glade I don't have to write this
So you are the silly one.

***naisho*** · 04-26-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

I have no clue.. Google Translate knows..

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

So glade I don't have to write this
So you are the silly one.

Say what?
We aren't using google translate here, we're writing in japanese.

CSign · 04-26-2012, 11:27 AM

Cloggy · 04-26-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Say what?
We aren't using google translate here, we're writing in japanese.

Guess Google Translator is not the way to go..

CSign · 04-26-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cylly1

My name is Fatima, and I'd really love to practice my sign language skills. As of right now, I've only been practicing Sign "Exact" English and I know ASL is completely different and so much more.

Just curious... If you know ASL is "completely different and so much more" why aren't you learning ASL?

Frisky Feline · 04-26-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Guess Google Translator is not the way to go..

of course it doesnt work the same idea as any form of sign language in book.

Frisky Feline · 04-26-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

So glade I don't have to write this
So you are the silly one.

did you say that or google translate says that for you?

Cylly1 · 04-26-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CSign

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Just curious... If you know ASL is "completely different and so much more" why aren't you learning ASL?

I don't have anyone to teach me. If you are willing then that would be great. There are schools to teach people, but I don't have the money and time to learn from them. The only thing I have to look forward to are internet sites...(that's a sad thought when you're really interested in languages..

)

Cylly1 · 04-26-2012, 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=naisho;2053309]Sounds awesome. I've studied on and off for awhile, but still have yet to visit Tokyo sometime. My cousin's pretty fluent in it, although it is not our native language. You can just call me Vic.

Nice to meet you Vic. I hope to be traveling to Tokyo really soon. I'm going to Japan this fall for a year and I'll be staying in Osaka, but I hope do to a shit load of traveling!!

Cylly1 · 04-26-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

So glade I don't have to write this
So you are the silly one.

I'm the Cylly1 lol

Cylly1 · 04-26-2012, 09:45 PM

Just so everyone knows. I will treat ASL as any other language I want to learn. I really love languages, so if you want me to teach me the correct way I will listen. However, you can't just expect "hearing" people to know the difference. (It's like going to China and being expected to know Chinese.) In reality it doesn't happen.
The reason why I'm here is because I'm broke so I can't afford to take professional classes. If you take pity on my broke ass, I'd be willing to learn whatever ASL you want to teach

**Smithtr** · 04-27-2012, 09:40 AM

Hello welcome to alldeaf
I am experience PSE plus ASL

Cylly1 · 04-27-2012, 09:47 AM

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Hello welcome to alldeaf
I am experience PSE plus ASL

eeeexxxxxeeecellent.

so are you my new teacher?

**Smithtr** · 04-27-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cylly1

eeeexxxxxeeecellent.

so are you my new teacher?

No problem I do help effort communication to people I can help you I grow up, I am volunteer to, I am volunteer to people community I am support to new community! I do it for best effort , I love ASL teach

Cylly1 · 04-27-2012, 10:12 AM

So can I give you my Skype name? And we can start practicing after I get off work in the afternoon, will this be okay?

**Smithtr** · 04-27-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cylly1

So can I give you my Skype name? And we can start practicing after I get off work in the afternoon, will this be okay?

sure you add my skype smithtr

-6 times zone skype I can effort I am practice for you review teach I can help you I am skills high fast sign language!, I best effort you

04-25-2012, 03:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cylly1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ケンタキーにすんでいます。I live in Kentucky. Posts: 119	Hello My name is Fatima, and I'd really love to practice my sign language skills. As of right now, I've only been practicing Sign "Exact" English and I know ASL is completely different and so much more.

04-25-2012, 03:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,087	Wirelessly posted (Blackberry Bold ) Just wondering why you are learning SEE? __________________ Hoh/Deaf ~ +120db deaf right , mild/mod flux left & APD English & ASL ...PAH!! Ignorance is NOT Bliss

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Bottesini Joe's Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: With Owl Sock Posts: 37,524 Blog Entries: 1	I wager they are practicing what we would call PSE on their own. __________________

04-25-2012, 04:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,087	Wirelessly posted (Blackberry Bold ) Ummm...ok. Just in case you're not aware, SEE isn't actually used in the Deaf community. It's a classroom tool used to teach deaf children English writing. If you're really interested in learning to sign, I'd urge you to look into proper ASL classes taught by native/near-native Hoh or Deaf users. It's worth the money to learn something correctly, is actually used by the Hoh/Deaf community... (And isn't something a vast number of us actually find a bit offensive - aka SEE) __________________ Hoh/Deaf ~ +120db deaf right , mild/mod flux left & APD English & ASL ...PAH!! Ignorance is NOT Bliss

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*naisho* Forum Disorders M.D.,Ph.D Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 6,162	よろしくですー!日本語を勉強しましたか? （￣ー￣） Welcome to the forums. I echo thoughts with the rest of the posters that SEE seems more of an instructional tool than it is for a day to day conversation... You might realize it once you compare deaf signers socializing and see which they prefer. Cylly1 likes this.

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Cylly1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ケンタキーにすんでいます。I live in Kentucky. Posts: 119	Well I don't have anyone to really teach ASL to me. There are classes around, but they want to me apply and pay them to learn. So, I just did it on my own

04-25-2012, 06:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cylly1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ケンタキーにすんでいます。I live in Kentucky. Posts: 119	Okay. So, umm I appreciate the post and everything, but not everyone has the $ to learn what they want. I'm broke a** college student lol and I just really wanted to learn ASL as another one of my languages to practice. I like to connect with other people and I don't want there to be any language barrier between me learning about them. I prefer not to have a translator and learn through my own means. -so I'm not trying to strip anyone of their language. I just don't have anyone to teach or learn with me other than what I can do on my own, in this case SEE. If I offended anyone then I apologize. I don't have money to pay for classes, because I'm saving up for my trip to Japan this fall. -if someone wants to take pity on the broke college student, then you could teach me the correct way I'd be more than happy to learn

04-25-2012, 06:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cylly1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ケンタキーにすんでいます。I live in Kentucky. Posts: 119	I really didn't mean to offend you or anyone one here. So, I apologize. I only want to learn

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04-26-2012, 09:42 PM	#23 (permalink)
Cylly1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ケンタキーにすんでいます。I live in Kentucky. Posts: 119	[QUOTE=naisho;2053309]Sounds awesome. I've studied on and off for awhile, but still have yet to visit Tokyo sometime. My cousin's pretty fluent in it, although it is not our native language. You can just call me Vic. Nice to meet you Vic. I hope to be traveling to Tokyo really soon. I'm going to Japan this fall for a year and I'll be staying in Osaka, but I hope do to a shit load of traveling!!

04-26-2012, 09:45 PM	#25 (permalink)
Cylly1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ケンタキーにすんでいます。I live in Kentucky. Posts: 119	Just so everyone knows. I will treat ASL as any other language I want to learn. I really love languages, so if you want me to teach me the correct way I will listen. However, you can't just expect "hearing" people to know the difference. (It's like going to China and being expected to know Chinese.) In reality it doesn't happen. The reason why I'm here is because I'm broke so I can't afford to take professional classes. If you take pity on my broke ass, I'd be willing to learn whatever ASL you want to teach

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Cylly1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ケンタキーにすんでいます。I live in Kentucky. Posts: 119	So can I give you my Skype name? And we can start practicing after I get off work in the afternoon, will this be okay?

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