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Unread 02-09-2012, 06:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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CI Failure? Support please!

Hi all, I am from Tel Aviv, Israel.

I have been Implanted nearly 8 months ago (Nucleus 5).

During the recent days, I noticed some decline in the Implant performance:
it now takes longer for the Implant to start working - means to actually start getting the sound. Same happens when I switch between programmes - it takes at least a minute or two before it switches on. The processor itself is working, the sound is just not coming inside.

I also noticed the waiting time to be longer and longer.

I went to Cochlear offices in my city. The checked every piece of the outer processor and told me it is absolutely fine. Their advice was to contact the hospital and now I am awaiting for the hospital appointment in order to check the inner part.

Has anybody here experienced this, and if so, what the solution was?

I am getting sligtly nervous because I know about Nucleus 5 recall.

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Unread 02-09-2012, 07:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Perhaps to ease your worries the recall is specifically for the Nucleus CI500 series implant range. Not all Nucleus 5s.


If you can find your exact model number it may ease your mind a little.


However you do need to get this checked straight away and it is certainly something that I have never experienced. Perhaps you should email or try talk to somebody either directly or indirectly.
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Unread 02-09-2012, 07:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you. It is Nucleus CP810 indeed.
I shaved my head, washed it and it improved big time.
However it still takes longer than usual shifting between programmes.

Weird.
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Unread 02-09-2012, 11:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It does sounds like you need to have a intergrity test to check the performance of the implant.

CP810 is the sound processor

CI500 is the series of internal implants

CR110 is the remote

Check out Cochlear website they should have advice page.
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Unread 02-09-2012, 12:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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perhaps, hearing parents of kids with CI would know what to answer you soon.
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Unread 02-09-2012, 01:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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perhaps, hearing parents of kids with CI would know what to answer you soon.
HA!

dont worry AlexOrlov, I am a profound deaf 17 year old, not a hearing parent.
Anyway, don't worry, they have tools that test each electron in the implant. If one has failed, its something to talk about, but if many had failed, you will be recommended to have surgery (99% sure they will do it for free).
But i think the issue is that it requires a map, maybe it got messed up somehow? I turned off all beeps on my process and it shifts programs in like a sec, turns on no time.
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HA!

Anyway, don't worry, they have tools that test each electron in the implant. If one has failed, its something to talk about, but if many had failed, you will be recommended to have surgery (99% sure they will do it for free).
But i think the issue is that it requires a map, maybe it got messed up somehow? I turned off all beeps on my process and it shifts programs in like a sec, turns on no time.
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Unread 02-09-2012, 01:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank you for your replies.

Meanwhile, my Implant has competely stopped working. It does seem like the problem is internal. After the weekend I am going to the hospital to check it out.
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hope it can get fixed without a complicated one. keep us posted.
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Unread 02-09-2012, 04:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Meanwhile, my Implant has competely stopped working. It does seem like the problem is internal. After the weekend I am going to the hospital to check it out.
Check the cable between the processor and the antennae to see if it is loose or broken.

Also, try banging your head on a steel pole to see if that helps.




(just kidding on the last part)
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Unread 02-09-2012, 06:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't have Cochlear model implant but understand that in the operating room the internal processor is throughly tested that all is okay. I was implanted at Sunnybrook/Toronto.
Whether this additional procedure is done elsewhere-unknown to me.
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Unread 02-09-2012, 07:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The hospital or implant center should be able to test your internal piece but I would change all the wires and if it worked better once you shaved, then you might need a stronger magnet, which is an easy fix.
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Yes the Implant has been tested during the surgery

However it is not working at the moment.

I have checked all the outer parts, changed cables, magnet (when the Implant has been working yet). It didn't help.

I am pretty pessimistic about all this. However, only the visit at the hosp on Sunday (working day in Israel) will clear things out.
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Also, try banging your head on a steel pole to see if that helps.


(just kidding on the last part)
Almost took this advice seriously. LOL
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It's back to work after two days. For how long? No idea...
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Got the final answer from the hospital

I am gonna be reimplanted.

Thank you all.
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I am gonna be reimplanted.

Thank you all.
Oh I am sorry. hope all is going to be well for you. do you still have to pay for the second surgery?

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oh sorry to hear that ,nucleus 5 is off my lists so i either go 4 AB or MED EL ,
I cannot believe that nucleus 5 failure after u had 4 8 month :O
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oh sorry to hear that ,nucleus 5 is off my lists so i either go 4 AB or MED EL ,
I cannot believe that nucleus 5 failure after u had 4 8 month :O

Cochlear has gone back to implanting the Nucleus Freedom internal implant, which works with the N5 processor. They haven't implanted any N5 internal devices since the recall. Just so you know.
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Cochlear has gone back to implanting the Nucleus Freedom internal implant, which works with the N5 processor. They haven't implanted any N5 internal devices since the recall. Just so you know.
Nucleus freedom is oldest implant ?? i am just curious and still learning about CI ,They haven't implanted any N5 internal implant device since the recall ? when was this happen ? , I think AB is way more advance the rest ,Just advanced technology that what i like about but i am not 100 % sure yet still searching lol
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Nucleus Freedom is N5's predecessor .. implanted since 2004-5 or something like that.. N5 was recalled about six months ago, so they "returned" to previous implant generation as it is reliable

And regarding recalls - all companies have recalls sometimes. AB had recently one too.
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AB's recall ended in September around the time Cochlear issued a recall on their N5 internal devices. Freedom implant may be older, but it still works well and is reliable, and works with the N5 processors. but yeah.
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AB's recall ended in September around the time Cochlear issued a recall on their N5 internal devices. Freedom implant may be older, but it still works well and is reliable, and works with the N5 processors. but yeah.
So funny because I went with Cochlear America last year simply because AB was off the market due to recalls. Now its the opposite.
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I am in the process of deciding which brand to go with. I was thinking the Nucleus5 but now I am even more confused. How do I decide? They gave me a package on the Nucleus5 and the AB Harmony. My doctor likes the Nucleus better. This is a huge decision, I need help!!!!!
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I am in the process of deciding which brand to go with. I was thinking the Nucleus5 but now I am even more confused. How do I decide? They gave me a package on the Nucleus5 and the AB Harmony. My doctor likes the Nucleus better. This is a huge decision, I need help!!!!!
Doctors perfer cochlear over AB because AB been having more recalls than cochlear america.

The internals are basically the same, its all about the future proof and techs of the processors.

So it narrows down to cochlear's n5 or AB's harmony. But don't forget, they are working on future BTE processors, who knows which is gonna be better.

Overall, IMO, i believe the n5 wins.
Why you ask? Because, its smaller, sexier, longer battery life (by a few hours), and it seems more of a "finshed" product...

However, I believe that the harmony has a much better sound system. That is due to the fact that they offer t-mic, which is the mic in the canal. N5 has two mics on the processor. It sucks because hair and wind sounds get into the mics unlike the t-mic.
T mic seems to gather more "important" sounds.
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Advanced Bionics also has a new processor called the Neptune. It's waterproof if you want to hear when swimming and such, but can also be used for normal everyday use. Neptune is a really small (about the size of a lipstick tube) off the ear processor (body worn), can be worn in the hair, clipped to collar of shirt or tie, etc.etc.etc there's several different wearing options for it. And a new smaller BTE is also in the works (AB is working with Phonak on this, might be available by 2013 or 2014 but not certain at this time). I'm hearing DAI connection is much better with the Neptune than with the Harmony. With the Harmony, you have to take the T-mic hook off, put on the DAI hook, connect the DAI cable, and you're set. Neptune, just plug DAI directly into the Neptune and iPod/,p3/whatever, no need to change things out.

Just keep in mind if you go Cochlear, the internal would be the Freedom, but the external processor would be the N5. I don't really know much about Cochlear's devices, since I'm more focused on AB for myself. But they do have a good product too.

Look at the information you've gotten, compare the 2 company's devices, make pros and cons of each device, and go from there. What do you like about each device, what do you not like, what sort of accessories do they have that you think you could really use, etc. It is really a lot to think about. You can't really go wrong with either device though, they both do what they're supposed to do.
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AB and Phonak HA combined together ,It is very exciting in the future .This is what i like about because i have worn 2 phonak ha 32 years then went into digital HA .That was amazing sound i ever had and have learn new sound i never heard it b4 in my life ,I was curious hearing new sound ,what the hell is that ? i ask my family or friend and learn from there till nov 2011 i lost my both hearing
Them 3 cochlear implant brand are very superb technology and i research lots lots so i know what i am going for CI ,
I am canidated for CI so can't wait
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I am in the process of deciding which brand to go with. I was thinking the Nucleus5 but now I am even more confused. How do I decide? They gave me a package on the Nucleus5 and the AB Harmony. My doctor likes the Nucleus better. This is a huge decision, I need help!!!!!
Don't listen to doctor said this is best for you therefore it is up to you to pick which implant you want.So it is design & look ,implant different shapes ,speech processor etc etc Make sure u are comfortable with it and yes is very huge decision ,i already mind my mind up what i having
So good luck with ur decision and wish u all the best ,keep it updated
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Oh I am sorry. hope all is going to be well for you. do you still have to pay for the second surgery?
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hope the re-implantation goes well and that you don't encounter any problems with it.
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