bilateral CI kid - Page 6

**shel90** · 12-18-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Actually, I explained many many times why I haven't learned ASL yet - simply because my family, my friends are all hearing.
So far I am still hearing fairly well with my HAs so I can communicate orally.
So far I don't need to communicate via SL.

With whom would I sign, I ask?

Due to my migraines, I am hardly sociable.
I hardly have the strength to socialize with the friends I have anymore,
let alone have the strength to make a new ones.

Heck, I hardly have the strength to learn ASL!

As for the "hearing impaired" - I do not see anything inappropriate with this term.
It's accurate. I am hearing impaired- I CAN'T HEAR WELL.

Fuzzy

I thought you have a deaf brother who went to a deaf school?

Audiofuzzy · 12-18-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Some parents pay attention to their children's reactions and figure that into their decision making process. In fact, I would go so far as to say the parents making the best decisions take their children's reactions and needs into account far and above their own need to have a child that can speak and hear.

Unfortunately, we are not discussing how "some parents pay attention.....
and blah blah blah"

but what would be the best approach in such situation as Ash encountered.

Fuzzy

DeafCaroline · 12-18-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

I know... why is that?

You can't use a CI as a role model for deaf children and you shouldn't.

Cloggy · 12-18-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I would never forget this one. About 4 years ago, he shared that his daughter met a teacher who was deaf who had no oral skills and how his daughter preferred not to associate with that teacher so I asked him straight out if he would accept that person as his daughter's teacher. He said no. I was like, wow.

Don't recall saying "his daughter met a teacher who was deaf who had no oral skills and how his daughter preferred not to associate with that teacher" since my daughter never did such a thing.
Second part..
With Lotte being hearing, and not knowing sign, a teacher that has no oral skills is of no use to her at the moment. Perhaps later when Lotte will learn sign.

So.. get the story right... instead of making insinuations...

Cloggy · 12-18-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

Cloggy. I thought I'd be fair to let you know - I'm reporting every single one of your posts.

Not reporting any of yours...

**shel90** · 12-18-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

Let's not make this thread about Cloggy. We all know how he is, no need to give him the moment of fame.

Gotcha...

back to the topic.

posts from hell · 12-18-2011, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Unfortunately, we are not discussing how "some parents pay attention.....
and blah blah blah"

but what would be the best approach in such situation as Ash encountered.

Fuzzy

I am 100% in support of what Ash did.

Cloggy · 12-18-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

That person that you are accusing Jillio of insulting insulted another person for how she felt about ASL, fyi.

Possibly.. So.. two wrongs make a right..?? Some perspective..

Audiofuzzy · 12-18-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I thought you have a deaf brother who went to a deaf school?

My brother is dead. Long dead.

I also wrote how I wasn't included in the deaf ways.
I wasn't taught SL ,and my brother never wanted me to sign.

I told you once you never read carefully what I write, Shel.
And then you made assumption about me based on what other people say about me - incorrectly say.

Fuzzy

DeafCaroline · 12-18-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cloggy

don't recall saying "his daughter met a teacher who was deaf who had no oral skills and how his daughter preferred not to associate with that teacher" since my daughter never did such a thing.
Second part..
With lotte being hearing, and not knowing sign, a teacher that has no oral skills is of no use to her at the moment. Perhaps later when lotte will learn sign.

So.. Get the story right... Instead of making insinuations...

lotte is deaf. Deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf.

DEAF

Cloggy · 12-18-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

He only wants his daughter to associate with deaf people who can hear which gives me the impression, deaf children who are implanted and are oral-only.

Wrong conclusion.. or assumption...

**shel90** · 12-18-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

My brother is dead. Long dead.

I also wrote how I wasn't included in the deaf ways.
I wasn't taught SL ,and my brother never wanted me to sign.

I told you once you never read carefully what I write, Shel.
And then you made assumption about me based on what other people say about me - incorrectly say.

Fuzzy

That was a LONG time ago when you talked about your brother. I said " I thought" and all you had to was to correct me instead of adding the other stuff. Nobody said anything about your brother. I brought him up.

posts from hell · 12-18-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

lotte is deaf. Deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf.

DEAF

Yup........

Audiofuzzy · 12-18-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

That was a LONG time ago when you talked about your brother. I said " I thought" and all you had to was to correct me instead of adding the other stuff. Nobody said anything about your brother. I brought him up.

Ok, sorry.

Fuzzy

**shel90** · 12-18-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

lotte is deaf. Deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf.

DEAF

Anyways...

All deaf kids implanted or not should have exposure to the Deaf community and Deaf culture.

**Bottesini** · 12-18-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

lotte is deaf. Deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf.

DEAF

No way! drphil is DEAF!!! (Although you keep telling him it does not exist.)

DeafCaroline · 12-18-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Anyways...

All deaf kids implanted or not should have exposure to the Deaf community and Deaf culture.

Amen.

Cloggy · 12-18-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

You can't use a CI as a role model for deaf children and you shouldn't.

Why not... If it's all about free choice to be deaf or to hear - why wouldn't you show a child another child or adult that can hear...

**shel90** · 12-18-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

Ok, sorry.

Fuzzy

No problem. Sorry that I brought him up. I must have you mixed up with someone else.

posts from hell · 12-18-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

No way! drphil is DEAF!!! (Although you keep telling him it does not exist.)

Ohhhhh I see what you did there. Lotte = drphil..

posts from hell · 12-18-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Why not... If it's all about free choice to be deaf or to hear - why wouldn't you show a child another child or adult that can hear...

It's a degrading experience, subtle but it is.

DeafCaroline · 12-18-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

No way! drphil is DEAF!!! (Although you keep telling him it does not exist.)

I didn't tell him DEAF doesn't exist. I told him it's not necessary to capitalize the word deaf in order to say he's deaf.

but yeah...give me a D! an E! an A! an F!

What does it spell?

Hearing! according to cloggy.

Cloggy · 12-18-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

lotte is deaf. Deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf deaf.

DEAF

Define "deaf"
Lotte was born deaf. She can hear hear hear hear hear hear.

what's your point?

jillio · 12-18-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

I am 100% in support of what Ash did.

As am I. More people should follow her lead.

posts from hell · 12-18-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Lotte was born deaf. She can hear hear hear hear hear hear.

what's your point?

She is deaf... regardless of hearing equipment she possess.

jillio · 12-18-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Why not... If it's all about free choice to be deaf or to hear - why wouldn't you show a child another child or adult that can hear...

You are so very deluded. Your daughter doesn't have a choice about being deaf. She is deaf no matter how much her parent denies it.

DeafCaroline · 12-18-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

Why not... If it's all about free choice to be deaf or to hear - why wouldn't you show a child another child or adult that can hear...

No. My parents did that, introduce me to adults who wore hearing aids and could speak and talk. I saw how others treated them and it only perpetuated hatred of deafness. Others would treat them like they were sooooooooo special or they would act a bit discomfited or they would speak to the deaf adults like they were stupid.

If my parents had introduced me to deaf adults who signed fluently and with ease among each other, I would have learned that being a deaf person is not a tragedy but something to be proud of.

Cloggy · 12-18-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

She is deaf... regardless of hearing equipment she possess.

You can't even define "deaf", Is it "not able to hear" or "born deaf even when you can hear"..

Give me a definition and we'll talk about Lotte being deaf..

Audiofuzzy · 12-18-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

I am 100% in support of what Ash did.

So, you believe a 3 years old boy have more power than his parents?

You believe a 3 years old kid is capable of deciding and changing the direction
of his life upon the accidental encounter with a stranger in the mall?

A 3 years old boy upon this encounter will come home, smash his little fist on the table, rip his CI off and yell "no more of this c*ap" -
ASL only from now on"!!!

and his parents will be like "sure, sure, hunny bunny'????

somehow I doubt it.

If they had comparative educational materials, links, on the other hand...

Fuzzy

**shel90** · 12-18-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

As am I. More people should follow her lead.

Yea, I am in support of what Ash did. I hope that little boy gets opportunities to interact with the Deaf community and learns ASL.

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