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**Smithtr** · 09-13-2011, 04:27 PM

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drphil · 09-13-2011, 11:04 PM

Travis: none of what you mentioned above was experienced by me. I had Phonak LL6 Hearing aids almost 35 years.-- Till December 20, 2006 when I became bilateral DEAF. Unusual?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

**Smithtr** · 09-14-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Travis: none of what you mentioned above was experienced by me. I had Phonak LL6 Hearing aids almost 35 years.-- Till December 20, 2006 when I became bilateral DEAF. Unusual?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

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**Bottesini** · 09-14-2011, 03:28 PM

I would just take the hearing aid off and rest when you get a headache.

**Smithtr** · 09-14-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

I would just take the hearing aid off and rest when you get a headache.

still issues on pretty tough!

bottesini right,

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**ash345** · 09-14-2011, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I would just take the hearing aid off and rest when you get a headache.

this is what I do... yes I do get headaches from my HA's at times... but I just take them out. take some advil... and it gets better... for a while...

**Smithtr** · 09-14-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ash345

this is what I do... yes I do get headaches from my HA's at times... but I just take them out. take some advil... and it gets better... for a while...

depend on something your headache cause migrae risk becaue not good health advil because destory liver or kidney not good health instead go to doctor or milk warm on tub warm bath head!

**ash345** · 09-14-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by smithtr

depend on something your headache cause migrae risk becaue not good health advil because destory liver or kidney not good health instead go to doctor or milk warm on tub warm bath head!

do the bath... but never tried warm milk! thanks for the advice! Yes I have seen my doc about it... but I try not to take advil too often... but it seems i take it at least 3x a week... i can't wait to find a job where I don't need to wear my HA's...

**Smithtr** · 09-14-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ash345

do the bath... but never tried warm milk! thanks for the advice! Yes I have seen my doc about it... but I try not to take advil too often... but it seems i take it at least 3x a week... i can't wait to find a job where I don't need to wear my HA's...

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DeafRaptor · 09-14-2011, 08:08 PM

That's one of the reasons I decided to give up on hearing aids. Growing up, I had headaches/migraines at least five times a week, but I rarely took medicine. It wasn't because it wasn't that bad, it felt like hell and I suffered through it. I just always developed a tolerance for the medicine unless I took it only on rare occasions. I didn't want to have to keep taking stronger medication and risk all of the side effects that come with those.

Some people would tell me the headaches were caused by other things. They would say that it was because I had not eaten lunch (at 11AM) or dinner (at 3:30PM), I had not had enough water (I make sure to get enough water), I had not had enough sleep (after sleeping for 9+ hours that night), I had too much caffeine (the most I will drink is pop, no coffee, and that in moderation), etc.

I hope you are able to find your solution. You shouldn't have to just deal with the headaches and risk long-term side effects from medications.

**Smithtr** · 09-14-2011, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafRaptor

That's one of the reasons I decided to give up on hearing aids. Growing up, I had headaches/migraines at least five times a week, but I rarely took medicine. It wasn't because it wasn't that bad, it felt like hell and I suffered through it. I just always developed a tolerance for the medicine unless I took it only on rare occasions. I didn't want to have to keep taking stronger medication and risk all of the side effects that come with those.

Some people would tell me the headaches were caused by other things. They would say that it was because I had not eaten lunch (at 11AM) or dinner (at 3:30PM), I had not had enough water (I make sure to get enough water), I had not had enough sleep (after sleeping for 9+ hours that night), I had too much caffeine (the most I will drink is pop, no coffee, and that in moderation), etc.

I hope you are able to find your solution. You shouldn't have to just deal with the headaches and risk long-term side effects from medications.

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drphil · 09-19-2011, 08:34 AM

Presumably one must discover the source of 'ANXIETY" in order to effectively "deal with it".

Reading a psychology textbook probably doesn't give one "insight"in how to manage,

Hopefully one's doctor can be of "assistance".

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

Jazzberry · 09-19-2011, 09:32 AM

When I wore analogue hearing aids my scalp, neck and even some of my back muscles were tight and tense all of the time.

Travis, if you think your hearing aids are giving you headaches, maybe an audi can adjust them for you? Are you more likely to get headaches after being near certain types of sounds or places?

In the meantime I agree with Bottesini, take off your hearing aids and give yourself breaks.

I hope an adjustment will help and prevent you from getting headaches.

AlleyCat · 09-19-2011, 11:20 AM

I'm curious as to why the analog ones would make your muscles tight. Was there a reason for that? (I ask only because I've worn analog all my life, never experienced that and don't know others who have.) Was it only when wearing the aids and hearing sounds that did (meaning that when your aids weren't in, you didn't experience the tight/tense muscles?)

**Smithtr** · 09-19-2011, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Presumably one must discover the source of 'ANXIETY" in order to effectively "deal with it".

Reading a psychology textbook probably doesn't give one "insight"in how to manage,

Hopefully one's doctor can be of "assistance".

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

NO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzberry

When I wore analogue hearing aids my scalp, neck and even some of my back muscles were tight and tense all of the time.

Travis, if you think your hearing aids are giving you headaches, maybe an audi can adjust them for you? Are you more likely to get headaches after being near certain types of sounds or places?

In the meantime I agree with Bottesini, take off your hearing aids and give yourself breaks.

I hope an adjustment will help and prevent you from getting headaches.

I think so maybe adjust to more bit on down volume reason otherwise aware it how feeling I learn it adjust to reason headache on medicaiton side effect I know!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyCat

I'm curious as to why the analog ones would make your muscles tight. Was there a reason for that? (I ask only because I've worn analog all my life, never experienced that and don't know others who have.) Was it only when wearing the aids and hearing sounds that did (meaning that when your aids weren't in, you didn't experience the tight/tense muscles?)

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Jazzberry · 09-19-2011, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyCat

I'm curious as to why the analog ones would make your muscles tight. Was there a reason for that? (I ask only because I've worn analog all my life, never experienced that and don't know others who have.) Was it only when wearing the aids and hearing sounds that did (meaning that when your aids weren't in, you didn't experience the tight/tense muscles?)

To be honest I don't know why.

I switched over to fully digital hearing aids in 1997.

I've worn HAs since I was 5 years old (I'm 52 now) and each time I got a new pair of HAs it was an improvement. But this was the first time I didn't feel like the sounds were jarring and uncomfortable. I was honestly surprised and my first reaction was ... hmmm, maybe its not that hard to be fully hearing after all.

But this thread is bringing back more memories and its possible that my finally being able to use HAs without getting tense was not simply due to the switchover from analog to digital technology but also due to improvements in other HA technology. I got a loner from my audi when one of my digital hearing aids had to be repaired and it was, according to him, an analog hearing aid. That hearing aid was not uncomfortable for me to use. I don't recall the model or even the brand though.

ETA: I realized that I didn't answer your question completely. To be honest I didn't make the connection until I had switched over to digital aids for awhile. I just thought that was normal for me. People use to comment on how tense my muscles were. Not often, because obviously most people didn't go around feeling me up, lol.

I use to notice that my scalp felt more relaxed a half hour or so after I took my HAs off, but I thought I was reacting to physically wearing something on my ears. After I switched over to digital, I know that wasn't so.

Lavender · 09-19-2011, 07:38 PM

Never got headache all my life.

Jazzberry · 09-19-2011, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithtr

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I think so maybe adjust to more bit on down volume reason otherwise aware it how feeling I learn it adjust to reason headache on medicaiton side effect I know!

maybe I think so not sure I check it on feeling, I think so loud on high voice on something reason my hearing aid!! I experience learn,

Maybe a compression adjustment would help? The author of the article linked below thinks that the UCL should be tested with pure tones at specific frequencies and not just with words. He thinks the results would be better and there's no reason not to test for them since its much easier to set gain and compression in the hearing aids since audigram tests were originally designed. I gather he thinks that most audis are doing these tests by rote and not really thinking about what the results mean and how much the technology has changed, esp since digital aids have become more commonly sold.

Demystifying Hearing Testing

Especially read what he has to say in the section describing the 7th test.

Hope this helps.

AlleyCat · 09-20-2011, 08:24 PM

Jazzberry (couldn't reply with the quote off my phone), your response was very interesting. Making me think whether I ever experienced any of that. So now that you have new digitals, do you feel fine always?

**Smithtr** · 09-20-2011, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzberry

Maybe a compression adjustment would help? The author of the article linked below thinks that the UCL should be tested with pure tones at specific frequencies and not just with words. He thinks the results would be better and there's no reason not to test for them since its much easier to set gain and compression in the hearing aids since audigram tests were originally designed. I gather he thinks that most audis are doing these tests by rote and not really thinking about what the results mean and how much the technology has changed, esp since digital aids have become more commonly sold.

Demystifying Hearing Testing

Especially read what he has to say in the section describing the 7th test.

Hope this helps.

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Jazzberry · 09-20-2011, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Jazzberry (couldn't reply with the quote off my phone), your response was very interesting. Making me think whether I ever experienced any of that. So now that you have new digitals, do you feel fine always?

My finances aren't so great these days and when I replaced my HAs last spring I went from a 16 channel HA to a 4 channel one. There are a few other specs where my newer pair of HAs are inferior also, but I misplaced my notes and I may not remember what they are accurately. But bottomline I don't hear as well as I could these days but I know its due to the technology that I can afford, not because my hearing actually got worse (it didn't).

These are my 3rd pair of digitals since 1997, and my favorite so far were the ones that I got in 2002 (GN Resound Canta 780D).

When its noisy I still prefer to turn my HAs off. When there's no one around, I usually prefer to take them off unless I'm in the mood to listen to some music. But that's always been my preference, possibly because I'm not late deafened but grew up HH. However, overall I prefer my current HAs to any of the analog hearing aids that I had before 1997.

Sounds are not as jarring. The compression and gain control is better so my recruitment is not triggered and I don't get startled all the time by sound like I use to.

How much of that is due to digital vs analog and the better components used by both types of HAs now plus more control over gain and compression by frequency -- I don't know. Analogs can do some of that also as I know first hand because of that analog loaner I was given a while back (as posted upthread). I do recall that I was not physically uncomfortable wearing that HA although of course I heard better with the digital HA that was programmed specifically for my loss.

If you ever have an opportunity to do so, go to an exhibit where there are hearing aid manufacturers and bring along your audiogram. They willl program a HA on the spot for free, and you'll get a chance to see what it sounds like. ( Keep in mind that a pair you would purchase might be finetuned a little more.)

Some d/Deaf and HoH groups have conventions and I think that HA vendors have exhibits for part of the time at those conventions. I know they do at HLAA conventions. I'm going to a Deafnation expo this Saturday in Queens, NY and if they include HA manufacturers with demo HAs, I'll post back here and let you know.

AlleyCat · 09-20-2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzberry

My finances aren't so great these days and when I replaced my HAs last spring I went from a 16 channel HA to a 4 channel one. There are a few other specs where my newer pair of HAs are inferior also, but I misplaced my notes and I may not remember what they are accurately. But bottomline I don't hear as well as I could these days but I know its due to the technology that I can afford, not because my hearing actually got worse (it didn't).

These are my 3rd pair of digitals since 1997, and my favorite so far were the ones that I got in 2002 (GN Resound Canta 780D).

When its noisy I still prefer to turn my HAs off. When there's no one around, I usually prefer to take them off unless I'm in the mood to listen to some music. But that's always been my preference, possibly because I'm not late deafened but grew up HH. However, overall I prefer my current HAs to any of the analog hearing aids that I had before 1997.

Sounds are not as jarring. The compression and gain control is better so my recruitment is not triggered and I don't get startled all the time by sound like I use to.

How much of that is due to digital vs analog and the better components used by both types of HAs now plus more control over gain and compression by frequency -- I don't know. Analogs can do some of that also as I know first hand because of that analog loaner I was given a while back (as posted upthread). I do recall that I was not physically uncomfortable wearing that HA although of course I heard better with the digital HA that was programmed specifically for my loss.

If you ever have an opportunity to do so, go to an exhibit where there are hearing aid manufacturers and bring along your audiogram. They willl program a HA on the spot for free, and you'll get a chance to see what it sounds like. ( Keep in mind that a pair you would purchase might be finetuned a little more.)

Some d/Deaf and HoH groups have conventions and I think that HA vendors have exhibits for part of the time at those conventions. I know they do at HLAA conventions. I'm going to a Deafnation expo this Saturday in Queens, NY and if they include HA manufacturers with demo HAs, I'll post back here and let you know.

Back on the computer again (me) ! What a great idea about going to the conventions and having them program one on the spot. It'd be interesting to see if there's any difference.

I am like you in that I take mine off when I don't need them. I hardly wear them on the weekend unless I'm going out at night or something. I wear them at work, but after getting home they often come off. Not because they bug me, but I love the total silence at that point.

drphil · 09-20-2011, 10:11 PM

Travis: didn't you have a Cochlear Implant for 3 years- removed "recently"? Is your referrence to a Hearing Aid in your other ear?
I have misread you?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

**Bottesini** · 09-20-2011, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Travis: didn't you have a Cochlear Implant for 3 years- removed "recently"? Is your referrence to a Hearing Aid in your other ear?
I have misread you?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

Travis has Phonak Naida now.

Jazzberry · 09-20-2011, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Back on the computer again (me) ! What a great idea about going to the conventions and having them program one on the spot. It'd be interesting to see if there's any difference.

I am like you in that I take mine off when I don't need them. I hardly wear them on the weekend unless I'm going out at night or something. I wear them at work, but after getting home they often come off. Not because they bug me, but I love the total silence at that point.

Yeah, unless I'm talking to people, listening to music or on the computer -- I prefer no hearing aids also.

My guess is that its not uncommon to prefer what you first grew up with, though I know not all HH people who grew up that way are like that. It be interesting to know the percentage though, but I don't think that kind of info is tracked anywhere.

**Smithtr** · 09-20-2011, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Travis: didn't you have a Cochlear Implant for 3 years- removed "recently"? Is your referrence to a Hearing Aid in your other ear?
I have misread you?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

yes that is correct remove implant done

I do experience headache lots of tried on reason my cochlear implant is dangerous!

drphil · 09-21-2011, 12:49 PM

Travis-no comment on whether Cochlear Implants were/are dangerous. I have had mine for only 4 years- now. So far no problem.

I believe you were 20 when you were Implanted. Silly question: why did you consider it then? Were you using ASL as well-then?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

**Bottesini** · 09-21-2011, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Travis-no comment on whether Cochlear Implants were/are dangerous. I have had mine for only 4 years- now. So far no problem.

I believe you were 20 when you were Implanted. Silly question: why did you consider it then? Were you using ASL as well-then?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07

He was twelve. His parents forced it and since it made him sick, doctors eventually agreed to remove it.

You are lucky no problems. Other people not so lucky. It isn't unknown.

**Smithtr** · 09-21-2011, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

He was twelve. His parents forced it and since it made him sick, doctors eventually agreed to remove it.

You are lucky no problems. Other people not so lucky. It isn't unknown.

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JabberJay · 09-21-2011, 04:41 PM

And I was hoping that a HA would get rid or reduce my migraines... I get them from eye strain and fatigue trying to figure out what's going on.

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Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,629	who experience on HA I question to personal AD member I am aware it complication tough on my hearing aid beucase It is very headache impossible because cause on ruin on my headache ,because risk on increase not good!I don't understand hearing aid improve update HA reason issues hearing off break on my brain work out! __________________

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,107	Travis: none of what you mentioned above was experienced by me. I had Phonak LL6 Hearing aids almost 35 years.-- Till December 20, 2006 when I became bilateral DEAF. Unusual? Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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DeafRaptor Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 163	That's one of the reasons I decided to give up on hearing aids. Growing up, I had headaches/migraines at least five times a week, but I rarely took medicine. It wasn't because it wasn't that bad, it felt like hell and I suffered through it. I just always developed a tolerance for the medicine unless I took it only on rare occasions. I didn't want to have to keep taking stronger medication and risk all of the side effects that come with those. Some people would tell me the headaches were caused by other things. They would say that it was because I had not eaten lunch (at 11AM) or dinner (at 3:30PM), I had not had enough water (I make sure to get enough water), I had not had enough sleep (after sleeping for 9+ hours that night), I had too much caffeine (the most I will drink is pop, no coffee, and that in moderation), etc. I hope you are able to find your solution. You shouldn't have to just deal with the headaches and risk long-term side effects from medications. Smithtr likes this.

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,107	Presumably one must discover the source of 'ANXIETY" in order to effectively "deal with it". Reading a psychology textbook probably doesn't give one "insight"in how to manage, Hopefully one's doctor can be of "assistance". Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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Jazzberry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New York State Posts: 761 Blog Entries: 2	When I wore analogue hearing aids my scalp, neck and even some of my back muscles were tight and tense all of the time. Travis, if you think your hearing aids are giving you headaches, maybe an audi can adjust them for you? Are you more likely to get headaches after being near certain types of sounds or places? In the meantime I agree with Bottesini, take off your hearing aids and give yourself breaks. I hope an adjustment will help and prevent you from getting headaches. __________________ I was a mainstreamed "solitaire". I'm currently learning ASL. My hearing loss ranges from moderate to profound; my audiogram and speech discrimination are posted here.

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AlleyCat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my time zone Posts: 10,753	I'm curious as to why the analog ones would make your muscles tight. Was there a reason for that? (I ask only because I've worn analog all my life, never experienced that and don't know others who have.) Was it only when wearing the aids and hearing sounds that did (meaning that when your aids weren't in, you didn't experience the tight/tense muscles?)

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Lavender Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WackoPlanet Posts: 1,624	Never got headache all my life. __________________

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AlleyCat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my time zone Posts: 10,753	Jazzberry (couldn't reply with the quote off my phone), your response was very interesting. Making me think whether I ever experienced any of that. So now that you have new digitals, do you feel fine always?

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,107	Travis: didn't you have a Cochlear Implant for 3 years- removed "recently"? Is your referrence to a Hearing Aid in your other ear? I have misread you? Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,107	Travis-no comment on whether Cochlear Implants were/are dangerous. I have had mine for only 4 years- now. So far no problem. I believe you were 20 when you were Implanted. Silly question: why did you consider it then? Were you using ASL as well-then? Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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JabberJay Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Alberta,Canada Posts: 386	And I was hoping that a HA would get rid or reduce my migraines... I get them from eye strain and fatigue trying to figure out what's going on. __________________

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