Cochlear recalls Nucleus CI500

Royale · 09-12-2011, 09:44 AM

Cochlear Slumps Most in 7 Years on Recall - Bloomberg

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posts from hell · 09-12-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Cochlear Slumps Most in 7 Years on Recall - Bloomberg

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Ohhhh these death never occured......... Headaches are a part of life........

These numbers must be wrong....

Frisky Feline · 09-12-2011, 11:05 AM

*smh*

CSign · 09-12-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

*smh*

What does that mean?

posts from hell · 09-12-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CSign

What does that mean?

Shaking My Head, smh.

Frisky Feline · 09-12-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CSign

What does that mean?

stands for shaking my head.

posts from hell · 09-12-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

stands for shaking my head.

Age has gotten to you, Frisky.... A tad slow there

CSign · 09-12-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

Shaking My Head, smh.

dragonman3000 · 09-12-2011, 10:42 PM

Wow... So it mean Nucleus 5 implant is recalled?

posts from hell · 09-12-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonman3000

Wow... So it mean Nucleus 5 implant is recalled?

Voluntary recalled. yes.

**Smithtr** · 09-21-2011, 04:44 PM

wow that is intersting news I never heard it sound beta on update!

jillio · 09-21-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

Ohhhh these death never occured......... Headaches are a part of life........

These numbers must be wrong....

Well of course they are. Deaths never occur with CI surgery or post op.

**LDNanna** · 09-21-2011, 10:28 PM

I read that article today. Looked scary.

jillio · 09-22-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LDNanna

I read that article today. Looked scary.

It is truly frightening. I get so tired of CI sugery being portrayed as simple, in and out, short recovery, and then, Bam!...my kid can hear, type of surgery.

iowaboy · 09-23-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It is truly frightening. I get so tired of CI sugery being portrayed as simple, in and out, short recovery, and then, Bam!...my kid can hear, type of surgery.

I get your gist and agree with it, surgery is surgery, but I can't help but point out that my 12 month old daughter went in for bilateral surgery at 8am and was home and running around our house eating crackers and playing by 4pm like nothing ever happened. And one month later when they switched her on, Bam!, she could hear.

It is an outpatient procedure that is in and out with few complications and little risk, and the results can be very, very good.

jillio · 09-24-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by iowaboy

I get your gist and agree with it, surgery is surgery, but I can't help but point out that my 12 month old daughter went in for bilateral surgery at 8am and was home and running around our house eating crackers and playing by 4pm like nothing ever happened. And one month later when they switched her on, Bam!, she could hear.

It is an outpatient procedure that is in and out with few complications and little risk, and the results can be very, very good.

For your daughter, it may have been. So, she could immediately distinguish and discriminate the various sounds in the environment and understand speech? If not, she could not hear. She could merely perceive stimuli. Huge, huge difference. Hearing is a complicated process that involves interpretation of stimuli.

The results can be very, very good. The results can also be very, very poor. The results can also be health issues down the road that require explant, yet another surgical procedure.

Deafguy25 · 09-24-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

For your daughter, it may have been. So, she could immediately distinguish and discriminate the various sounds in the environment and understand speech? If not, she could not hear. She could merely perceive stimuli. Huge, huge difference. Hearing is a complicated process that involves interpretation of stimuli.

The results can be very, very good. The results can also be very, very poor. The results can also be health issues down the road that require explant, yet another surgical procedure.

Then what would you call it, if not "hearing"?

jillio · 09-24-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafguy25

Then what would you call it, if not "hearing"?

I already told you in the post you quoted. "Perception of stimuli".

iowaboy · 09-24-2011, 10:09 PM

That's quite a definition of hearing that you've made up there. Hearing is the perception of sound stimuli. Look it up. Yes, my daughter immediately responded to sounds in her environment, and could discriminate between tones and hand claps, and even find them from a completely different part of the house. She was able to hear from day 1. Within a few weeks she was able to distinguish the difference between the dogs panting softly below her bedroom window and a cat meowing in the same place without seeing either of them. CIs work and they work well, and the risks associated with them are negligible.

**GrendelQ** · 09-25-2011, 08:21 AM

I guess I lose my hearing every time I travel to China: I can't understand even the simplest speech when I'm walking around.

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So, she could immediately distinguish and discriminate the various sounds in the environment and understand speech? If not, she could not hear. She could merely perceive stimuli.

**shel90** · 09-25-2011, 08:30 AM

Come on, most of you all know what Jillio meant. Stop acting like you dont know what she meant unless you reallly truly do not understand deafness. If so, then pls dont act like you know all about it as well. I can hear but I am not hearing.

AlleyCat · 09-25-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Come on, most of you all know what Jillio meant. Stop acting like you dont know what she meant unless you reallly truly do not understand deafness. If so, then pls dont act like you know all about it as well. I can hear but I am not hearing.

Exactly, Shel. The majority in here complaining about jillio's post are hearing. They really must not understand deafness.

**shel90** · 09-25-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Exactly, Shel. The majority in here complaining about jillio's post are hearing. They really must not understand deafness.

If they truly really do not understand deafness, then they have no place acting like they are experts in deafness. I am sick of it. Either be honest or stop playing these stupid games like the few posts above me.

Granted, I know a lot of people dont like Jillio and yes, I get tired of the fighting as well. Yes, Jillio should cease sometimes but others who complain about her should do the same too. You cant complain and yet do the same crap yourselves.

CIMom · 09-25-2011, 10:44 AM

I didn't feel like anyone was being argumentative or playing stupid games. Just stating the fact that hearing is being able to detect a sound not distinguish. Its hard enough as a parent to make the decision to implant or not and and when you have to read through gobs of post with false information it makes it an even harder decision. I would never persuade a family one way or the other just state the facts of my personal experience. There is no wrong decision but there are half truths.

As for a Mom of a daughter with bilateral cochlear implants I had a very similar story and do feel the surgery time was short, would not consider there to be any recovery time, and when the CI's were activated she could instantly perceive sounds "hear." Even if she could never understand speech, the ability to hear a horn honk, or a shouted warning would make the surgery a success. Being able to talk 3 months post activation and understand many words ball, mom, dad, diaper, milk, eat, drink I consider that "Bam" hearing.

posts from hell · 09-25-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

If they truly really do not understand deafness, then they have no place acting like they are experts in deafness. I am sick of it. Either be honest or stop playing these stupid games like the few posts above me.

Granted, I know a lot of people dont like Jillio and yes, I get tired of the fighting as well. Yes, Jillio should cease sometimes but others who complain about her should do the same too. You cant complain and yet do the same crap yourselves.

exactly.

posts from hell · 09-25-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CIMom

I didn't feel like anyone was being argumentative or playing stupid games.

You havent been here long enough........ Just saying.

Deafguy25 · 09-25-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Come on, most of you all know what Jillio meant. Stop acting like you dont know what she meant unless you reallly truly do not understand deafness. If so, then pls dont act like you know all about it as well. I can hear but I am not hearing.

No one said the kids are Hearing. They simply said they could hear, just like you did. They can hear with their implants, but they are deaf.

**shel90** · 09-25-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafguy25

No one said the kids are Hearing. They simply said they could hear, just like you did. They can hear with their implants, but they are deaf.

It is a long story and there is history behind it. Nothing to do with you or CIMom.

Deafguy25 · 09-25-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

It is a long story and there is history behind it. Nothing to do with you or CIMom.

That makes it OK to not tell the truth? The kids can hear. Why try to mislead and obscure it?

posts from hell · 09-25-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deafguy25

That makes it OK to not tell the truth? The kids can hear. Why try to mislead and obscure it?

Not misleading - we're tracking down audism.

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CIMom Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3	I didn't feel like anyone was being argumentative or playing stupid games. Just stating the fact that hearing is being able to detect a sound not distinguish. Its hard enough as a parent to make the decision to implant or not and and when you have to read through gobs of post with false information it makes it an even harder decision. I would never persuade a family one way or the other just state the facts of my personal experience. There is no wrong decision but there are half truths. As for a Mom of a daughter with bilateral cochlear implants I had a very similar story and do feel the surgery time was short, would not consider there to be any recovery time, and when the CI's were activated she could instantly perceive sounds "hear." Even if she could never understand speech, the ability to hear a horn honk, or a shouted warning would make the surgery a success. Being able to talk 3 months post activation and understand many words ball, mom, dad, diaper, milk, eat, drink I consider that "Bam" hearing.