Hypermobile Eardrum

plasticdinosaur · 02-14-2011, 08:42 PM

Has anyone else been told that they have a hypermobile eardrum? Most of my joints are very hypermobile, so I was not particularly surprised to hear this, but apparently it was kind of a big deal. My audi called all her med/grad students into to room to look at the computer and they did the test several times so they could see it. Is it really that big of a deal? Does anyone else have this?

lovezebras · 02-14-2011, 08:45 PM

hmm never heard of it..

posts from hell · 02-14-2011, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasticdinosaur

Has anyone else been told that they have a hypermobile eardrum? Most of my joints are very hypermobile, so I was not particularly surprised to hear this, but apparently it was kind of a big deal. My audi called all her med/grad students into to room to look at the computer and they did the test several times so they could see it. Is it really that big of a deal? Does anyone else have this?

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**Bottesini** · 02-14-2011, 09:15 PM

I think it means you can have a little damage to the eardrum like a small hole, or it can be caused by some problem with the middle ear.

I don't think it is that uncommon. Maybe her students just had not had a chance to see it before.

posts from hell · 02-14-2011, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I think it means you can have a little damage to the eardrum like a small hole, or it can be caused by some problem with the middle ear.

I don't think it is that uncommon. Maybe her students just had not had a chance to see it before.

i read it as the ear drum being able to move so much at even the slightest pressure - hence my toss-in of a messed up rap lyric.

**Bottesini** · 02-14-2011, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

i read it as the ear drum being able to move so much at even the slightest pressure - hence my toss-in of a messed up rap lyric.

I didn't know it was a rap lyric. I thought it was subtle humor I can't understand.

I am a little depressed by hearing that here today.

And yes the eardrum moves easily. I said the reasons why.

posts from hell · 02-14-2011, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I didn't know it was a rap lyric. I thought it was subtle humor I can't understand.

I am a little depressed by hearing that here today.

And yes the eardrum moves easily. I said the reasons why.

ah, the reason i put a rap lyric in was the assocation of the eardrum to an ultra low bass speaker.

**Bottesini** · 02-14-2011, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

ah, the reason i put a rap lyric in was the assocation of the eardrum to an ultra low bass speaker.

True?

posts from hell · 02-14-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

True?

i think so. a speaker goes in and out, and when it's doing bass - it goes in and out much more deeper

same as an hypermobile ear drum??

**Bottesini** · 02-14-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

i think so. a speaker goes in and out, and when it's doing bass - it goes in and out much more deeper

same as an hypermobile ear drum??

That's interesting.I wonder if it would do it more if you punched a tiny hole or took out the equivalent of a little bone inside like an ear.

plasticdinosaur · 02-14-2011, 10:19 PM

From what I understood it meant that it was just really flexible, more so than normal- like my joints, which can be twisted into multiple, unnatural positions. Not really sure what that would do to your eardrum though...

posts from hell · 02-14-2011, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

That's interesting.I wonder if it would do it more if you punched a tiny hole or took out the equivalent of a little bone inside like an ear.

that would usually cause complete deafness. the eardrum wouldnt be moving. it moves because of pressure applied to it from the sound waves. and when theres a rupture or a hole in it the sound waves will go through it instead of hitting it for the most part.

im not too familiar with this, but that is what i think is correct.

drphil · 02-16-2011, 09:16 AM

Possible to get an answer re:eardrums from "ENT medical text book"?

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LoveBlue · 02-16-2011, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

that would usually cause complete deafness. the eardrum wouldnt be moving. it moves because of pressure applied to it from the sound waves. and when theres a rupture or a hole in it the sound waves will go through it instead of hitting it for the most part.

im not too familiar with this, but that is what i think is correct.

A hole in the eardrum will not cause complete deafness but will cause hearing loss. My daughter perforated both ear drums one weekend and one of them healed, the other didn't. By the time she had the surgery to repair it, the hole had gotten so big that the ENT replaced it with a piece of skin from behind her ear. Unfortunately, that didn't "take", so once she finished growing she had the surgery again this time using a piece of the "flab" sticking up in front of her ear (guess she won't be able to use ear buds now). Her new "eardrum" does not have as much flexibility as a "real" one, but it's better than not having anything there. She still has minor hearing loss because of this.

**Bottesini** · 02-16-2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Possible to get an answer re:eardrums from "ENT medical text book"?

Boitesini: Prof SKY upset at the moment: raining here in Toronto! Are your herd of hounds out running around for breakfast?

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Might be. But I bet that costs a lot. I should check.

And it is melting here! My dogs (the two smallest) are on my lap, and the poodle (who is nine and cant jump) is on a fleece blanket in her travel crate.

And it is our day to buy groceries. So That is hard work and good exercise for me!

I do love the idea of an ENT textbook. I don't know much about ears either. And I should.

**Bottesini** · 02-16-2011, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Possible to get an answer re:eardrums from "ENT medical text book"?

Boitesini: Prof SKY upset at the moment: raining here in Toronto! Are your herd of hounds out running around for breakfast?

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

Might be. But I bet that costs a lot. I should check.

And it is melting here! My dogs (the two smallest) are on my lap, and the poodle (who is nine and cant jump) is on a fleece blanket in her travel crate.

And it is our day to buy groceries. So That is hard work and good exercise for me!

I do love the idea of an ENT textbook. I don't know much about ears either. And I should.

A follow up. I found a textbook that still sells new for $108.00, and I bought a used copy on Amazon for $3.38!

This may be the start of a new collection.

dogmom · 02-16-2011, 02:08 PM

wow, that's quite a deal!

**Bottesini** · 02-16-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dogmom

wow, that's quite a deal!

I was very happy!

drphil · 02-16-2011, 04:04 PM

Bottesini: Hopefully you can decipher the medical jargon without getting "too excited"!

At last NO comment from Prof SKY- doesn't read medical books. Wise one-knows went to be silent!

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**deafskeptic** · 02-16-2011, 04:55 PM

I'll simply ask my father about hypermoblie ear drums as he's a a retired MD though I must admit that he never was an ENT.

drphil · 02-19-2011, 08:24 AM

Can "hypermobile eardrum" be part of "cultural deafness"? Can it "fit as nonpathological"?
Don't recall any discussion on this topics at CHS/Toronto_ Hearing Help classes?

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**Bottesini** · 02-19-2011, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil

Can "hypermobile eardrum" be part of "cultural deafness"? Can it "fit as nonpathological"?
Don't recall any discussion on this topics at CHS/Toronto_ Hearing Help classes?

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

I will tell you after my book gets here. Assuming I am able to understand it of course.

But I am betting I can.

But it would definitely be pathological and not part of cultural deafness.

**sallylou** · 02-19-2011, 02:30 PM

Yes, I'm familiar with this problem. I have a hereditary connective tissue disorder and that's why I'm going deaf. Feel free to PM me.

Dr. Phil, this is related to cultural deafness in a way. Because genetic deafness exists in my family, deafness is not unexpected and not perceived as "weird," even for LD. It's just part of who I am and my life.

drphil · 02-19-2011, 03:29 PM

Hi sallylou: Like you have the -genetic connection-father's side- to hearing loss. However it is my understanding- none of my Uncles became deaf/Deaf. I and my brother did. As I understand -none of my cousins are "deaf /Deaf". Though a few are "hearing impaired". Seems I was the first to become deaf.

We both have Cochlear Implants from Sunnybrook/Toronto. Neither of us are "cultural Deaf" at the present time. We both have the same Cochlear Implant.
My youngest brother is in the Profound classification for the last 20 years-so far not eligible for an Implant. If matters get "worst"- eg bilaterally deaf-probably would go for consideration of an Implant.

Knowing one has a "genetic connection" which may express itself in the future doesn't as such change anything. I knew as mentioned before I would "eventually become bilaterally deaf" for almost 15 years. Thus I sought info re Cochlear Implants and tried introductory ASL BEFORE I BECAME DEAF.-Dec 20/06. As the doctors said-there is no way to more exact except if MAY happen-sometime in the future.

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**sallylou** · 02-19-2011, 04:06 PM

It may be a recessive gene. You can track a dominant gene through the generations. Dominant hearing loss genes are rarer than recessive ones. You're lucky that you have a brother to share your experiences. Wish that I did!

drphil · 02-20-2011, 12:01 AM

My brother is younger than I am. The bulk of the implant information came from me.
So far so good.

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Anij · 02-20-2011, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasticdinosaur

From what I understood it meant that it was just really flexible, more so than normal- like my joints, which can be twisted into multiple, unnatural positions. Not really sure what that would do to your eardrum though...

Do you have EDS by chance ?

evil_queen_lisa · 02-20-2011, 10:58 AM

i also am hypermobile but i have not been told that it affects my eardrum. It makes sense as most hypermobile conditions are cause by the fibrous tissues connecting the joints to be somewhat elastic (varying in severity). Since the eardrum (i believe) is also fibrous tissue, it would make sense that it could also be effected.
*EQL*

plasticdinosaur · 02-20-2011, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anij

Do you have EDS by chance ?

I do indeed.

evil_queen_lisa · 02-21-2011, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasticdinosaur

I do indeed.

curious.. what kind? it was recommended that i get tested for EDS but i never did..
*EQL*

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plasticdinosaur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: IUB Posts: 167	Hypermobile Eardrum Has anyone else been told that they have a hypermobile eardrum? Most of my joints are very hypermobile, so I was not particularly surprised to hear this, but apparently it was kind of a big deal. My audi called all her med/grad students into to room to look at the computer and they did the test several times so they could see it. Is it really that big of a deal? Does anyone else have this?

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Bottesini Joe's Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: With Owl Sock Posts: 37,503 Blog Entries: 1	I think it means you can have a little damage to the eardrum like a small hole, or it can be caused by some problem with the middle ear. I don't think it is that uncommon. Maybe her students just had not had a chance to see it before. __________________

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plasticdinosaur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: IUB Posts: 167	From what I understood it meant that it was just really flexible, more so than normal- like my joints, which can be twisted into multiple, unnatural positions. Not really sure what that would do to your eardrum though...

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dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,469	wow, that's quite a deal!

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,107	Can "hypermobile eardrum" be part of "cultural deafness"? Can it "fit as nonpathological"? Don't recall any discussion on this topics at CHS/Toronto_ Hearing Help classes? Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

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sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	Yes, I'm familiar with this problem. I have a hereditary connective tissue disorder and that's why I'm going deaf. Feel free to PM me. Dr. Phil, this is related to cultural deafness in a way. Because genetic deafness exists in my family, deafness is not unexpected and not perceived as "weird," even for LD. It's just part of who I am and my life. __________________

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drphil Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 4,107	Hi sallylou: Like you have the -genetic connection-father's side- to hearing loss. However it is my understanding- none of my Uncles became deaf/Deaf. I and my brother did. As I understand -none of my cousins are "deaf /Deaf". Though a few are "hearing impaired". Seems I was the first to become deaf. We both have Cochlear Implants from Sunnybrook/Toronto. Neither of us are "cultural Deaf" at the present time. We both have the same Cochlear Implant. My youngest brother is in the Profound classification for the last 20 years-so far not eligible for an Implant. If matters get "worst"- eg bilaterally deaf-probably would go for consideration of an Implant. Knowing one has a "genetic connection" which may express itself in the future doesn't as such change anything. I knew as mentioned before I would "eventually become bilaterally deaf" for almost 15 years. Thus I sought info re Cochlear Implants and tried introductory ASL BEFORE I BECAME DEAF.-Dec 20/06. As the doctors said-there is no way to more exact except if MAY happen-sometime in the future. Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07 __________________ Get Real:Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto -Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07 Last edited by drphil; 02-20-2011 at 08:53 AM.

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sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	It may be a recessive gene. You can track a dominant gene through the generations. Dominant hearing loss genes are rarer than recessive ones. You're lucky that you have a brother to share your experiences. Wish that I did! __________________

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evil_queen_lisa Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 591	i also am hypermobile but i have not been told that it affects my eardrum. It makes sense as most hypermobile conditions are cause by the fibrous tissues connecting the joints to be somewhat elastic (varying in severity). Since the eardrum (i believe) is also fibrous tissue, it would make sense that it could also be effected. EQL

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