RoseRodent

Cookie-bites are reasonably rare compared to other types of losses, which always makes for a more difficult fit because hearing aids are not rolled out by the millions with that sort of loss in mind, they are thinking flat loss or HF loss, with occasional thought for LF reverse slopes. Cookie-bite, as the rarest, gets nary a look-in on the technology world.

Cookie-bite tends to go hand in hand with extremely heavy distortion and hyper-sensitivity in ranges where the hearing is better. A cookie-biter is the one who is going to be kept awake at night by the neighbour's slamming gate but utterly unable to follow a conversation.

It also tends to be difficult to overlay onto fitting ranges where enough power is achieved for the worst losses. Look at most fitting ranges where you need 70dB in the mid frequencies and you'll nearly always see the fitting range slope downwards so that the better frequencies in perhaps the 40s are outside the fit range. It's up to the quality of the audiologist to decide to fit anyway rather than be too conservative and leave you with a mild-moderate powered instrument to try to cover the biggest losses. Hearing aids themselves make circuit noise, and the more power the more circuit noise. It doesn't matter to those with HF losses as the noise they make is HF anyway, but cookie-biters are notorious for being able to hear the hearing aid working before the middle band gets loud enough to hear any speech.

And finally, we tend to need very expensive instruments because we need a lot of channels. There is often a very steep change and a very raggedy edge compared to someone with a profound loss but one which is constant all the way across, you can easily fit with a few channels as you are looking for similar gain in all frequencies, where cookie-biters often need to make rapid changes from big amplification to very small to no amplification, but need powerdomes or full moulds to cope with the LF gain so need to have the HF coming through the hearing aids, and then it's often too loud.

Audiologists are not fond of fitting for cookie-bites, and especially when they see mine (a fluctuating mixed cookie-bite with significant distortion and dead zones in the middle of nowhere) they want to fit me with half a Naida and half a Petite instrument.

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MCB

Yeah, that description is accurate to my observation. I have only one acceptable setting on my HA's, the other just has too much circuit noise. I see that setting is a standby setting.

So the decision to go with molds rather than dome was good, because feedback is so irritating. I can't hear birds without them, though.

Then, I see that my audiogram is a smooth bite, so my theory that my ex's drag racing is a factor really isn't that important. Since I have good skills lipreading, maybe I always had it, my father had a hearing loss, but back in the 70's nothing could be done about it. I see there is a genetic component to it, too.

I am very pleased with my ReSound Zigas.ReSound Ziga - Behind-the-Ear (BTE) models Zg71-DVI

I have telephone problems, so my cellphone is a US Cellular Bliss, which has a wide range of amplification. I did have an Axle, but it was just too difficult to understand. I hardly ever use any other phone.

I got a "Personal PA" from church, which really helps me with wandering mind problems, just don't have to concentrate so hard to pay attention.

My son has Asperger's traits, and ALWAYS talks quietly, and rarely rephrases when I ask him "What", so HA's are my best way of coping with his idiosyncrasies.

Sarfarigirl2011

here's mine
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my hearing loss is also at the same state this year BUT I'm pleased with the Oticon Safari since they're made for tough cookies (no, I'm not a cookie biter, I'm a tough cookie since my hearing loss is stable and not going down)

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RoseRodent

Ziga looks good, and at last something which gives me the power I need in the mid-section without sloping violently down at the HF, I can actually overlay my audiogram on the Power version and it doens't stick out anywhere! It says they do an audioshoe for it but can't find one for sale in the UK, apparently there are "reliability issues" with some audioshoe models so they refuse to sell them. Shame, they look good otherwise.

sallylou

Cookie bites are relatively rare. It is a mid-frequency (speech zone). Usually genetic.

Roserodent, it's a u shaped hearing loss in the middle of the chart.

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KristinaB

Both of my kids have cookie bite audiograms. They have sensorineural hearing loss. Daughter is very mild and her problems are more speech recognition. She hear things in a funny way. She can hear the quietest sound both high pitch or low frequency. Son is now moderate to severe loss. His is progressing faster than mine did. I have had him tested for the same calcium issues I had, but he doesn't have that. He is just losing his hearing naturally with this hereditary loss. Seems, I am the one to pass it to both kids, but we don't know where I got it. Maybe it skips generations. Hmmmm

MCB

She showed me what it did when in the ear, and it matched the audiogram.

I found out why I had so much trouble I had getting used to my Siemens in 2000!!!

Well, now I get to blame my dad instead of my ex. No anger in that, now.

I had my kids hearing tested about six months after I got my first HA's, and they had no loss at that time. I guess I will have to watch them, especially my son's lack of volume when speaking, but that is more closely related to conductive loss (he had many many ear infections as a little guy)

Yeah-- Denmark. Not so far from Scotland. Got some Shakespeare running through my head.

Was just looking at their spec charts. Should get about three weeks of use out of each pair of batteries. I'll see how that stacks up.

I see that, Rose. If you have a violent dip in the 1000 to 2000 range, their power version might be just right for you.

RoseRodent

Do you wear hearing aids at the moment, Sallylou? What did you choose? I've pretty well given up trying to get my health service hearing aid to work and will have to buy another one. The whole office specialises in fitting elderly people with presbyacusis and they don't have what I need for a more complex and ongoing loss.

Lavender

Audiogram:

1. Otologic Medical Group, Inc. Los Angeles in 1986 (2p)

2. Kaiser Perm. Audiometric Evaluation, Norcal in 2006

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AlleyCat

Kristina, any family history at all? Whether yes or no, do you know if your mom was sick (flu-like) while pregnant with you? If so, it could be CMV which is hereditary after a mother contracts it.

KristinaB

Mom was never sick when pregnant with me. Now at this point, I am unable to ask her as she is losing her memory. No one on her side ever had any hearing loss that we know of. My father had a hearing loss in one ear as a result of either scarlet fever or malaria while in Korea and Japan for the Korean conflict. The Army fitted him with his first hearing aid. In his family for as far back as we know there was no hearing loss.

On hubby's side, there is no hearing loss on either his mother's side or his father's side.

MCB

Just read some information on that. Googled cytomegalovirus hearing loss. When hearing loss happens as a result of congenital CMV, it starts high frequency. If it progresses to mid-frequency, then it is likely to progress to severe-profound. Diagnosis is important, because there is an anti-viral med that can stop the progression. May be responsible for up to 20% of all pediatric hearing loss.

So it would be highly unusual with a cookie-bite.

Just ask Google!!

AlleyCat

Very interesting. We suspected my mom contracted CMV (she displayed all the symptoms of it, just like Jillio did) as my hearing loss progressed worse as I got older. I remember you mentioning before that your hearing loss progressed, so I thought I'd throw that out there. It can be confirmed through a blood test.

rivenoak

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

Can someone help me better understand what this audiogram "says"?

ptcallaghan

Hey I know most of this thread is older but I came across this online audiogram tool and thought some might be interested.

Audiogram creator

I will attempt to do mine and post it...

ptcallaghan

K here goes...


I couldnt get Internet Explorer to let me save the image, but it worked well in Firefox....must be due to the .png format

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Audiofuzzy

I don't mind to show mine:



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Fuzzy

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evil_queen_lisa

Kristina we are ear twins!
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Mudkipz

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Lee H.

It's my understanding that under HIPPA, we are allowed to get or see the report, no matter who paid for it.

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naushad1975

here is my audiogramm
https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&i...disp=inline&zw

naushad1975

please se my audiogramm and advice me do i use hearing aid or go for operation. dr told me to do th operation means ned to replace the bone,

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RoseRodent

Yeah, there's probably some special way of asking you have to comply with. If I just ask my doctor to show me my medical records he doesn't have to, but if I write to the practice manager and tell him I want to see them under the Data Protection Act 1998 Subject Data Access Request regulations he has to send them to me. I suspect a similar thing exists for your regulations, they probably have to give it to you, but you probably have to ask for it the way they have to give it to you IYSWIM!

Fl885

Mudkipz, are you same guy on HJ named Carlos or something, you had N22 on old ear and AB last year, how are you doing?, nice to see you here, how is the college
Your N22 seems to do better in your audiogram than AB? Am I wrong

dungsiabc

it's mine

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jpc

Is 120 the standard now? My audiogram only goes from -10 -- 110.

Hollykins1

Here's my last one.

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sallylou

Kristina, you could have a de novo mutation. Sometimes, mutations just happen and are passed on to the next generation. Consider yourself a trendsetter.

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